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Post by polly on Jan 24, 2020 0:42:58 GMT
I do miss the good old days when Nick would say that he didn't think the time war was possible on audio... I suppose when the TV show depicted the War for the anniversary (which I'm half-convinced was a mistake), it was inevitable Big Finish would follow suit.
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Post by number13 on Jan 24, 2020 0:44:16 GMT
So I'm not online for a few hours and on my return I find... oh my goodness, that's amazing news. (And just when I thought I was getting on top of the pre-orders )
Very excited about this new Time War set for Carole Ann Ford (the outline in the news story sounds great) and not long to wait - a relisten to 'All Hands on Deck' will be in order. This must all be building to something big & combined with the 8DA / Gallifrey Time War series, mustn't it?
Great that Paul McGann will be appearing in this set too - and how absolutely wonderful : William Russell is back!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 5:28:36 GMT
I don't think I've ever preordered something so quickly in my life. Over the moon to see a continuation of Susan's story with William Russell return'd. It's always a joy to see anything from my first TARDIS team. I wonder which Ian we'll be getting?
Now, if you'll excuse me... *wraps cables around shoulders* If this chrono-abbreviator works, April should come 4:00pm tomorrow. (Either that or I'll taste blue for the rest of my life.) Sacrifices to be made! Science to be done! Perils, danger, etc and so forth.
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Post by tuigirl on Jan 24, 2020 8:55:57 GMT
Now that the excitement has died down a bit... I hope they go down the road of some more character driven stories and personal conflict instead of explosions and Daleks screaming. The later I find a bit off-putting and we already had that previously. A lot. I am especially looking forward to the confrontation between Susan and 8. McGann has proven in Lies in Ruins that he can go shockingly desperate and that would be exactly what he should be towards Susan... But also showing how much Susan's character has changed by confronting her with her past will be interesting. On a side note, I remember another discussion in another thread a while ago where we discussed that this year there are only two releases featuring McGann. Back then, I already suspected we might get a couple of surprises this year. This means, surprise one can be ticked off that list...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 9:24:40 GMT
I have a sneaking suspicion this won't be a one off though. No I hope it is a stand alone set that ties things up for Susan tbh and we are swamped with Time Wars stories as far as am concerned just because itβs a war that never ends it doesnβt mean the spin offs donβt have toπ€ͺ
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 9:29:14 GMT
Now that the excitement has died down a bit... I hope they go down the road of some more character driven stories and personal conflict instead of explosions and Daleks screaming. The later I find a bit off-putting and we already had that previously. A lot. I am especially looking forward to the confrontation between Susan and 8. McGann has proven in Lies in Ruins that he can go shockingly desperate and that would be exactly what he should be towards Susan... But also showing how much Susan's character has changed by confronting her with her past will be interesting. On a side note, I remember another discussion in another thread a while ago where we discussed that this year there are only two releases featuring McGann. Back then, I already suspected we might get a couple of surprises this year. This means, surprise one can be ticked off that list... I hear you on the Character driven and hell get Chesterton onto Gallifrey I mean there was one man who first met the Daleks letβs him see the final conflict and itβs results. Susans been through two Dalek Invasions and survived both without needing to regenerateπ
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 9:38:38 GMT
While my interest in the Time War has waned significantly, William Russell is an absolute treasure and I'd given up hope on hearing anything new from him. Makes sense to follow on from All Hands on Deck or whatever that Short Trip was called. I do miss the good old days when Nick would say that he didn't think the time war was possible on audio... Agree 100%
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 9:40:02 GMT
I do miss the good old days when Nick would say that he didn't think the time war was possible on audio... Agree 100% Well its done now...I miss the old days when the Doctor was....ππ€ͺπ
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 10:05:32 GMT
Now that the excitement has died down a bit... I hope they go down the road of some more character driven stories and personal conflict instead of explosions and Daleks screaming. The later I find a bit off-putting and we already had that previously. A lot. I am especially looking forward to the confrontation between Susan and 8. McGann has proven in Lies in Ruins that he can go shockingly desperate and that would be exactly what he should be towards Susan... But also showing how much Susan's character has changed by confronting her with her past will be interesting. On a side note, I remember another discussion in another thread a while ago where we discussed that this year there are only two releases featuring McGann. Back then, I already suspected we might get a couple of surprises this year. This means, surprise one can be ticked off that list... I suspect we might get the odd explosion and Nick Briggs screaming into the ring modulator a couple of times, but like you I'm hoping for more character driven..more (Rassilon forgive me) human stories. With Susan there would be a lot of delicious possibilities to explore - her return to the childhood home she fled with her grandfather...the ghosts of her past haunting her in the streets of the Capitol...encountering the ghost of a more recent past, a teacher and former travelling companion...her grief for David and for Alex rippling to the surface with each fresh casualty of the Time War she encounters...her feelings of hatred towards the Daleks intensifying as the war rages on..and perhaps most delicious of all, the possibility of her festering resentment towards the man who took her from Gallifrey as a child, who left her behind on 22nd Century Earth to fend for herself, who came back into her life years later and played a part in the events leading to the death of her beloved son and a young woman from two hundred years earlier, who left her behind again to deal with the raw grief alone and even now stands on the sidelines of a war their people are fighting..a war he could have prevented from happening in a prior incarnation with just the touch of a wire. Imagine what might happen when she hears the familiar wheeze of a type 40 TARDIS.. Lots of possibilities. We might see some I mentioned play out, we might see none of them. I cant wait to find out. π
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 10:11:02 GMT
Now that the excitement has died down a bit... I hope they go down the road of some more character driven stories and personal conflict instead of explosions and Daleks screaming. The later I find a bit off-putting and we already had that previously. A lot. I am especially looking forward to the confrontation between Susan and 8. McGann has proven in Lies in Ruins that he can go shockingly desperate and that would be exactly what he should be towards Susan... But also showing how much Susan's character has changed by confronting her with her past will be interesting. On a side note, I remember another discussion in another thread a while ago where we discussed that this year there are only two releases featuring McGann. Back then, I already suspected we might get a couple of surprises this year. This means, surprise one can be ticked off that list... I suspect we might get the odd explosion and Nick Briggs screaming into the ring modulator a couple of times, but like you I'm hoping for more character driven..more (Rassilon forgive me) human stories. With Susan there would be a lot of delicious possibilities to explore - her return to the childhood home she fled with her grandfather...the ghosts of her past haunting her in the streets of the Capitol...encountering the ghost of a more recent past, a teacher and former travelling companion...her grief for David and for Alex rippling to the surface with each fresh casualty of the Time War she encounters...her feelings of hatred towards the Daleks intensifying as the war rages on..and perhaps most delicious of all, the possibility of her festering resentment towards the man who took her from Gallifrey as a child, who left her behind on 22nd Century Earth to fend for herself, who came back into her life years later and played a part in the events leading to the death of her beloved son and a young woman from two hundred years earlier, who left her behind again to deal with the raw grief alone and even now stands on the sidelines of a war their people are fighting..a war he could have prevented from happening in a prior incarnation with just the touch of a wire.. Lots of possibilities. We might see some I mentioned play out, we might see none of them. I cant wait to find out. π I need to go listen to Relative Dimensions again .....tbh I canβt remember much about it now it was a few years back to see her and McGann
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 10:51:28 GMT
Now that the excitement has died down a bit... I hope they go down the road of some more character driven stories and personal conflict instead of explosions and Daleks screaming. The later I find a bit off-putting and we already had that previously. A lot. I am especially looking forward to the confrontation between Susan and 8. McGann has proven in Lies in Ruins that he can go shockingly desperate and that would be exactly what he should be towards Susan... But also showing how much Susan's character has changed by confronting her with her past will be interesting. On a side note, I remember another discussion in another thread a while ago where we discussed that this year there are only two releases featuring McGann. Back then, I already suspected we might get a couple of surprises this year. This means, surprise one can be ticked off that list... I suspect we might get the odd explosion and Nick Briggs screaming into the ring modulator a couple of times, but like you I'm hoping for more character driven..more (Rassilon forgive me) human stories. With Susan there would be a lot of delicious possibilities to explore - her return to the childhood home she fled with her grandfather...the ghosts of her past haunting her in the streets of the Capitol...encountering the ghost of a more recent past, a teacher and former travelling companion...her grief for David and for Alex rippling to the surface with each fresh casualty of the Time War she encounters...her feelings of hatred towards the Daleks intensifying as the war rages on..and perhaps most delicious of all, the possibility of her festering resentment towards the man who took her from Gallifrey as a child, who left her behind on 22nd Century Earth to fend for herself, who came back into her life years later and played a part in the events leading to the death of her beloved son and a young woman from two hundred years earlier, who left her behind again to deal with the raw grief alone and even now stands on the sidelines of a war their people are fighting..a war he could have prevented from happening in a prior incarnation with just the touch of a wire. Imagine what might happen when she hears the familiar wheeze of a type 40 TARDIS.. Lots of possibilities. We might see some I mentioned play out, we might see none of them. I cant wait to find out. π Her life as a telepath would also lean the character towards that more empathic kind of storytelling. I was trying to think of a good example and the podcast Welcome to Night Vale's arc about The Blood Space War makes for a pretty strong contender. They're comparatively small two-person plays about the effects of the conflict from varying perspectives. The broadcasters, the protesters, the generals and so on. Including the casualties and the casualties of a time war are very different to conventional ones. "The Protestor", for instance, tells the story of a young woman who has to care for her father who's been regressed back to a teenager. She needs her dad, but her dad treats her like his mother, so it gets very complicated emotionally. It's a different kind of walking wounded and neither one of them can really handle it. Trees make up a forest and the stories of some trees can be remarkable. That's where I think the strength of telling such a war can come from.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 11:10:17 GMT
Susan Swore "Oh Bugger, not the bloody Daleks again". I know how she feels.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 12:00:32 GMT
While my interest in the Time War has waned significantly, William Russell is an absolute treasure and I'd given up hope on hearing anything new from him. Makes sense to follow on from All Hands on Deck or whatever that Short Trip was called. I do miss the good old days when Nick would say that he didn't think the time war was possible on audio... I agree with this. I would have snapped up this boxset like a shot, but I'm not so sure now. I'll be honest: I find the Time War would have been better as something alluded to, as in the television show (at least under RTD), rather than focused upon. I can accept the War Doctor idea, mainly because it brought the magnificent John Hurt on board, but the War Master and War Valeyard and War Whatever Else is several steps too far for me.
Bringing back Carole Ann Ford and William Russell is great news, but to tie them into this ongoing spin-off drags them down. I'd much prefer something new for them both.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jan 24, 2020 13:02:22 GMT
Another release to add to the list of....I Have No Money, But I Must Have It!
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Post by axelotl38 on Jan 24, 2020 14:05:15 GMT
I can't recall, was Susan's War the story that featured a VA voicing the Sensorite Queen/Empress/Something?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 14:14:31 GMT
perhaps Dusan actually will get to meet her mum who is now her father and her father who is now her mum π I doubt her parentage will even be broached I mean she never mentioned them did she...? looming lovely
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 15:15:06 GMT
I hate the accusation "no true fan". Everybody can like and dislike what they want and if they enjoy other parts of the fandom than me, that is totally fine.
Maybe they will come back to it in time. Maybe they will not. At the convention I met fans who HATE cosplay and refused to talk to me, all dressed up. That is fine, too. Then I just go and talk to somebody else. I am sure if johnhurtdoctor ever thinks about changing his mind, he will read all about the release and our thoughts in this very thread. Or i can just tie him to a chair place the headphones on his head and torture him with it...if itβs really bad and tell him you were right wish I hadnβt bought it either π€ͺ Ooh! Now that's something I could be down for lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 15:15:47 GMT
So if Ian Chesterton is now going to be involved in the Time War can we call him The War Chest?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2020 15:15:57 GMT
perhaps Dusan actually will get to meet her mum who is now her father and her father who is now her mum π I doubt her parentage will even be broached I mean she never mentioned them did she...? looming lovely I think it should open with a guest voice over by Danny Dyer or Shane Richie: "You might wonder how I got mixed up with the Time War. Well, it all kicked off when I paid a visit to my old mucker Ian Chesterton. Top Diamond fella and pretty handy back in the day when you were in a bit of a scrape or two", before going flashback to when Susan was just, well, Susan....
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Post by tuigirl on Jan 24, 2020 17:10:14 GMT
Now that the excitement has died down a bit... I hope they go down the road of some more character driven stories and personal conflict instead of explosions and Daleks screaming. The later I find a bit off-putting and we already had that previously. A lot. I am especially looking forward to the confrontation between Susan and 8. McGann has proven in Lies in Ruins that he can go shockingly desperate and that would be exactly what he should be towards Susan... But also showing how much Susan's character has changed by confronting her with her past will be interesting. On a side note, I remember another discussion in another thread a while ago where we discussed that this year there are only two releases featuring McGann. Back then, I already suspected we might get a couple of surprises this year. This means, surprise one can be ticked off that list... I suspect we might get the odd explosion and Nick Briggs screaming into the ring modulator a couple of times, but like you I'm hoping for more character driven..more (Rassilon forgive me) human stories. With Susan there would be a lot of delicious possibilities to explore - her return to the childhood home she fled with her grandfather...the ghosts of her past haunting her in the streets of the Capitol...encountering the ghost of a more recent past, a teacher and former travelling companion...her grief for David and for Alex rippling to the surface with each fresh casualty of the Time War she encounters...her feelings of hatred towards the Daleks intensifying as the war rages on..and perhaps most delicious of all, the possibility of her festering resentment towards the man who took her from Gallifrey as a child, who left her behind on 22nd Century Earth to fend for herself, who came back into her life years later and played a part in the events leading to the death of her beloved son and a young woman from two hundred years earlier, who left her behind again to deal with the raw grief alone and even now stands on the sidelines of a war their people are fighting..a war he could have prevented from happening in a prior incarnation with just the touch of a wire. Imagine what might happen when she hears the familiar wheeze of a type 40 TARDIS.. Lots of possibilities. We might see some I mentioned play out, we might see none of them. I cant wait to find out. π These are some amazing characters with such a rich background. As you say, they could do soooo much with them. Honestly, explosions and Nick creaming into his ring modulator would feel like a waste...
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