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Post by mark687 on Apr 16, 2020 15:07:45 GMT
Oh that was very good. There were moments where the years fell away and the energy was way high. Great chemistry between the leads, excellent stories.
5/5
Regards
mark687
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Post by dannybl on Apr 16, 2020 16:43:49 GMT
Just finished. Wonderful. Release of the year!
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Post by mbt66 on Apr 16, 2020 17:02:23 GMT
Shame this hasn’t got a poll attached to it.
A couple of positive reviews are making me reconsider my absence from Susan’s War.
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Post by Jeedai on Apr 16, 2020 17:52:53 GMT
So here's the question I wanted answered before I made up my mind on getting this one...
... How many episodes does Eight appear in?
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Post by jahawk2009 on Apr 16, 2020 17:55:15 GMT
So here's the question I wanted answered before I made up my mind on getting this one... ... How many episodes does Eight appear in? He's only advertised for 1 episode.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2020 17:57:35 GMT
Wow this is getting some high praise indeed! Lovely to see, as I wasn’t entirely sold on the concept of Susan in the Time War to be honest. Now I’m strongly considering treating myself... 🙂
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Post by mark687 on Apr 16, 2020 17:59:30 GMT
So here's the question I wanted answered before I made up my mind on getting this one... ... How many episodes does Eight appear in? Actively in the last Ep but he's mentioned at various points in the others Regards mark687
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Post by mark687 on Apr 16, 2020 18:05:18 GMT
Wow this is getting some high praise indeed! Lovely to see, as I wasn’t entirely sold on the concept of Susan in the Time War to be honest. Now I’m strongly considering treating myself... 🙂 Do if your a fan of Susan, Ian and or The Time War concept this is a wonderful experience. Regards mark687
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Post by Digi on Apr 16, 2020 18:09:39 GMT
Loved episode 1. No qualifications to that statement - I just really loved episode 1 and felt immediately gratified that I bought this set. Episode 2 didn’t quite do it for me. On the whole I found it a bit slow, and I was also slightly put off that it felt like a bit of a retread of Eye of Darkness. Not a bad story, just didn’t hold my attention like the first. Can’t wait to hear the rest of the set.
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Post by nitronine on Apr 16, 2020 19:16:41 GMT
Do I need to have seen The Sensorites to understand the first story? Really want to start this set but haven't watched that story yet
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Post by jahawk2009 on Apr 16, 2020 19:24:57 GMT
Do I need to have seen The Sensorites to understand the first story? Really want to start this set but haven't watched that story yet No you definitely don't. It gives you the broad strokes that you need within the story, just be sure to listen closely.
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Post by nitronine on Apr 16, 2020 19:49:06 GMT
Do I need to have seen The Sensorites to understand the first story? Really want to start this set but haven't watched that story yet No you definitely don't. It gives you the broad strokes that you need within the story, just be sure to listen closely. Thank you
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Apr 17, 2020 4:41:00 GMT
I’m a little disappointed that Susan didn’t get her own theme and instead got the BF “Time War” theme.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Apr 17, 2020 7:38:50 GMT
Ohh good lord, William Russell is just amazing. Age may have slowed him, but it’s taken none of his talent or stolen any warmth from his performance.
I particularly liked how the expected clash between Ian’s values and humanness and Veklin’s war-era values and Time Lordiness was resolved quietly and with Ian impressing Veklin with his pure unadulterated Ian-ness. Veklin cannot stand the Doctor because he won’t fight, but Ian outright tells her he won’t fight either AND gives away her secret about SPOILERS and yet she still shows him respect at the end.
I do hope that we haven’t heard the last of Ian, but if we have - a story where his fundamental humanity shone, where he save a species by being stubborn and clever and where he inspired respect from the war-era Time Lords would be a suitably appropriate swan song.
I’m also very impressed with Ford, she plays a Susan put on the back foot from the start, but who is clever but has lost things, who is willing to act and fight in her own way but ALSO the she’s clearly got a lot of Doctor in her still.
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Post by shallacatop on Apr 17, 2020 10:18:25 GMT
I thought Sphere of Influence was a great opener. Carole Ann Ford and William Russell are wonderful together. Their rapport allows the story to crack on straight away and it doesn't feel as though Ian's involvement is forced. I think Susan participating in the Time War feels natural here. It isn't her in the midst of battle, it's her utilising her best traits - diplomacy and investigation. The Sense Sphere is a high concept that works brilliantly in the Time War environment; of course both the Time Lords and Daleks want to use it!
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Post by Digi on Apr 17, 2020 11:51:14 GMT
Just finished off the set. Like I said before I thought episode 2 was a bit of a dip, but 3 and 4 were just great, great stories. Loved the heck out of this box set, every story felt like it was really its own, not just 'tacked on to the Time War.' Great to hear Carole Ann Ford able to carry an entire box set, having Beth Chalmers aboard for (almost) all of it was terrific, Damian Lynch continues to own the Rasmus role, Paul McGann was on form as always, and the return of William Russell was an absolute delight. I don't mind if this is the only set, but I would also be very happy for it to become a range. I also couldn't help but notice (spoilers for end of part 4) {Spoiler}They left a nice gap in there in which they could do one-off adventures with Paul and Carole, and that the set's conclusion was open-ended so they can do more box sets if they like. Oh, and THAT cameo in episode 4, delightful - made me grin
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Post by shallacatop on Apr 18, 2020 8:47:23 GMT
Hmm, I wasn’t a fan of The Uncertain Shore. It’s not bad by any means, just a bit meandering and dull, I think. It doesn’t really go anywhere until the last 10 minutes or so and it doesn’t help that Pretty Lies covered similar ground and did it much better. I’m normally a fan of Simon Guerrier’s work, but this was a disappointment for me.
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Post by theillusiveman on Apr 18, 2020 10:17:24 GMT
Relistening to the final episode i must say that Paul McGann's acting in one scene kinda felt wooden when {Spoiler} They are discussing Susan's son Alex 8 basically acts so aloof and the line "are you trying to break my hearts' came out rather oddly like there was no emotion not to mention Lucie Miller didn't even get a reference
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Post by Digi on Apr 18, 2020 12:08:45 GMT
Relistening to the final episode i must say that Paul McGann's acting in one scene kinda felt wooden when {Spoiler} They are discussing Susan's son Alex 8 basically acts so aloof and the line "are you trying to break my hearts' came out rather oddly like there was no emotion not to mention Lucie Miller didn't even get a reference I took note of that scene, but didn't find it odd in quite the way you mean... {Spoiler} I've noticed before that (with the exception of The Great War), most of the releases featuring McGann treat him as fully moved on from the loss. And I noticed in THIS set that Susan was very much the same way. To me, both are very reminiscent of how quickly the First Doctor moved on after leaving Susan behind in The Dalek Invasion of Earth.
Without really thinking too hard about it, the thought that popped into my head was that neither of them is human, and that perhaps Gallifreyans simply process death and grief differently from humans.
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Post by tuigirl on Apr 18, 2020 12:28:01 GMT
Relistening to the final episode i must say that Paul McGann's acting in one scene kinda felt wooden when {Spoiler} They are discussing Susan's son Alex 8 basically acts so aloof and the line "are you trying to break my hearts' came out rather oddly like there was no emotion not to mention Lucie Miller didn't even get a reference I took note of that scene, but didn't find it odd in quite the way you mean... {Spoiler} I've noticed before that (with the exception of The Great War), most of the releases featuring McGann treat him as fully moved on from the loss. And I noticed in THIS set that Susan was very much the same way. To me, both are very reminiscent of how quickly the First Doctor moved on after leaving Susan behind in The Dalek Invasion of Earth.
Without really thinking too hard about it, the thought that popped into my head was that neither of them is human, and that perhaps Gallifreyans simply process death and grief differently from humans. {Spoiler} Maybe it is part of Time Lord training since they are near immortal and dealing with death and loss will be their curse? There must be self-help classes about this at academy, since you cannot have a caste of near immortals going mad from grief on a regular basis.
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