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Post by Admin on Oct 16, 2015 14:05:14 GMT
DVD arrived in todays post!
thats tonight sorted then
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Post by kimalysong on Oct 16, 2015 15:36:48 GMT
I got the audio soundtrack which is enough for me. The audio soundtrack doesn't come with the 2 actual episodes or the extras though. While the release could have been better it's still not a Vanilla release like Web of Fear and Enemy were. That being said I am waiting for it to go down in price which it inevitably will do.
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Post by david on Oct 16, 2015 15:44:53 GMT
It's still got an episode on it that no-one owns (officially) and some fatastic contributors to the commentary. Though the news about the recon isn't good. The new DWM has an article about the release and it seems the recons are going to be nothing more than sequential telesnaps. They won't cut back and forth to the relevant picture depending on who is speaking (so Troughton may be speaking but you'll see say, Ben). They won't be sped up or slowed down to match the action, no composite footage, no digital touchups....it's literally gonna be a slideshow. The bizarre bit? BBC Worldwide specified that it should be this way even though the RT's John Kelly said they could do much more. There was to be no attempt to improve the telesnaps, no editing to help the pacing, no inclusion of the exisiting fragments into the recon. He wasn't even allowed to put in the opening theme and closing credits.... why would BBCWW want an inferior product when the RT told them they could easily do better? Completely agree with you mate, this is just a cheapy released cash in to shut the fans up who moaned about it's delayed release. I got the audio soundtrack which is enough for me. You can't completely agree with me - I'm defending the release for having a "new" episode and exciting extras When the petition to release this went viral in Who fandom and DWM were reporting on it, we'd have killed just to get it released. Sure the telesnaps aren't going to be as good as even our own fan-made ones but hey...it's more Troughton for the shelf. He's even on the commentary!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 16, 2015 18:27:06 GMT
£20.42 is a ridiculous RRP for a DVD featuring half the content. I thought £13.99 on the BBC Shop was bad but how they can have the nerve to make the RRP £20.42 when it features two episodes and two glorified picture slideshows beats me. For that price, I would expect top quality animation from Aardman and a personal letter from Frazer Hines.
As you can tell, I won't be buying this rip-off.
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Post by redsharkJason on Oct 16, 2015 20:00:18 GMT
If a region 1 DVD release of the Underwater Menace becomes available, I will gladly buy it! I'm certainly not going to worry and focus on what it *does not* have! Hopefully, this will be a positive opportunity for us fans to show the BBC that new material classic Doctor Who DVD releases are still in demand.
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Post by Timelord007 on Oct 17, 2015 9:00:32 GMT
It's around £14 on Amazon now but out of sheer principle i won't be purchasing this, it's simply been rush released because of fan demand & what's not to say a animated version although highly unlikely will be released in the near future.
I have the audio soundtrack which is enough for me, this story isn't a classic like Fury Of The Deep, just a average one.
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Post by Timelord007 on Oct 17, 2015 9:01:56 GMT
Completely agree with you mate, this is just a cheapy released cash in to shut the fans up who moaned about it's delayed release. I got the audio soundtrack which is enough for me. You can't completely agree with me - I'm defending the release for having a "new" episode and exciting extras When the petition to release this went viral in Who fandom and DWM were reporting on it, we'd have killed just to get it released. Sure the telesnaps aren't going to be as good as even our own fan-made ones but hey...it's more Troughton for the shelf. He's even on the commentary! I meant i know where you coming from, i get what you saying mate & respect your views on the product in question.
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Post by mrfuggleboppins on Oct 18, 2015 1:48:43 GMT
A friend of mine who works in media told me Daleks Masterplan episode's have been found & being restored but until it's actually confirmed by the BBC I'll reserve judgment as us fan's have been down this road before. Well, they were - a decade ago! I quite like the cover, although it does look more like a painting than a photograph especially with Jamie and the Doctor.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 7:55:22 GMT
I might be more interested if the episode hadn't been on YouTube. I know it shouldn't have been but it was there, there was at the time little chance it would ever be released so I broke my usual rule and watched it. for those who haven't seen it I can sympathise that the price of this must feel like extortion
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2015 0:48:39 GMT
I can't wait for this. A further gleam into The Second Doctor's history is always welcome
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Oct 19, 2015 9:51:15 GMT
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Oct 22, 2015 16:40:24 GMT
I've still preordered it. Going to finish off that DVD collection
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Post by david on Oct 22, 2015 18:37:55 GMT
I've still preordered it. Going to finish off that DVD collection Me too. Without hesitation.
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Post by redsharkJason on Dec 4, 2015 22:38:52 GMT
According to Amazon.com's latest customer notification, March 1, 2016 will be the release date for the long-awaited region 1 Doctor Who story #32 DVD. Of course, no official confirmation (what else is new) has been given from BBC Home Entertainment or Warner Home Video yet.
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Post by Tim Bradley on Dec 31, 2015 9:09:40 GMT
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 31, 2015 23:28:10 GMT
What a surprise, reviews of this DVD have been mainly negative and criticising it for the shoddy release it is. If the BBC couldn't be bothered to do a proper job (IE animation), then they shouldn't have bothered at all fan pressure or no fan pressure.
Doctor Who is supposed to be the BBC's crown jewel. You wouldn't think it if you only had this to go by.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 1:04:12 GMT
What a surprise, reviews of this DVD have been mainly negative and criticising it for the shoddy release it is. If the BBC couldn't be bothered to do a proper job (IE animation), then they shouldn't have bothered at all fan pressure or no fan pressure. Doctor Who is supposed to be the BBC's crown jewel. You wouldn't think it if you only had this to go by. Sorry, that's nonsensical. The new episoe that has not been officially released before was on the disc. That's the most important thing by far. It was an incomplete range before. When all these people signed petitions demanding its release, I don't remember anyone adding caveats about animation or quality recons. We were just happy to have it then. Funny how so many fans adopted the "What have you done for me lately?" attitude the minute the disc landed. I can see "it could have been better" but "they shouldn't have even bothered" is something that's entitled, selfish nonsense.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jan 1, 2016 19:24:53 GMT
What a surprise, reviews of this DVD have been mainly negative and criticising it for the shoddy release it is. If the BBC couldn't be bothered to do a proper job (IE animation), then they shouldn't have bothered at all fan pressure or no fan pressure. Doctor Who is supposed to be the BBC's crown jewel. You wouldn't think it if you only had this to go by. Sorry, that's nonsensical. The new episoe that has not been officially released before was on the disc. That's the most important thing by far. It was an incomplete range before. When all these people signed petitions demanding its release, I don't remember anyone adding caveats about animation or quality recons. We were just happy to have it then. Funny how so many fans adopted the "What have you done for me lately?" attitude the minute the disc landed. I can see "it could have been better" but "they shouldn't have even bothered" is something that's entitled, selfish nonsense. Sorry but I don't think it is selfish to expect a quality product from the BBC. What's the point in releasing something half-arsed? It's not benefitting anybody but those with piles of money to spend on inferior products. If they weren't prepared to spend the money, then they may as well have not bothered. All it has done is damaged the brand; yes, only minor damage but still damage. Anybody buying this for their first classic series DVD is not going to be impressed. This is what I'd have done if I were the BBC: 1. Listened to the demand. 2. Hire an animation company to do it regardless of expense. 3. If animation is expensive, justify the cost by broadcasting it on BBC4. 4. Release the DVD in-time for Christmas (complete with The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar as a special feature to make it appealing to casual viewers buying for their new series fan kids also) to get back some of the money it has cost to release a proper high standard DVD.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2016 19:54:52 GMT
If you honestly think they shouldn't have released the DVD and we'd always be missing an episode then you're not a Doctor Who fan, you're just an entitled moaner. Plenty of people - including on the forum - were peeved at this release but to advocate just shelving the missing ep instead? Wow..
Does having a missing episode mean so little to you that you'd say they shouldn't have bothered releasing it?
We've got more classic series Who on DVD this year than last. But please, tell us again why it would be better to have less.
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Post by randomjc on Jan 2, 2016 3:52:11 GMT
Sorry, that's nonsensical. The new episoe that has not been officially released before was on the disc. That's the most important thing by far. It was an incomplete range before. When all these people signed petitions demanding its release, I don't remember anyone adding caveats about animation or quality recons. We were just happy to have it then. Funny how so many fans adopted the "What have you done for me lately?" attitude the minute the disc landed. I can see "it could have been better" but "they shouldn't have even bothered" is something that's entitled, selfish nonsense. Sorry but I don't think it is selfish to expect a quality product from the BBC. What's the point in releasing something half-arsed? It's not benefitting anybody but those with piles of money to spend on inferior products. If they weren't prepared to spend the money, then they may as well have not bothered. All it has done is damaged the brand; yes, only minor damage but still damage. Anybody buying this for their first classic series DVD is not going to be impressed. This is what I'd have done if I were the BBC: 1. Listened to the demand. 2. Hire an animation company to do it regardless of expense. 3. If animation is expensive, justify the cost by broadcasting it on BBC4. 4. Release the DVD in-time for Christmas (complete with The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar as a special feature to make it appealing to casual viewers buying for their new series fan kids also) to get back some of the money it has cost to release a proper high standard DVD. One. This did no damage. Because no one is going, "I'll get Underwater Menace as my first classic series dvd." It's in black and white and not the unearthly child. Fans mat be annoyed, but fans aren't seeing any classic who releases anytime soon. Two. Your plan is terrible. At any point you say "regardless the expense," means you got no clue how anything works outside your own fan wants. Add that, your "release with the two starter episodes" idea has now moved this from being the Underwater Menace to "New Series release that features this other thing casual fans don't care about." So people who want underwater menace now pay a premium for animation, and even more for new series episodes, which they'll pay for again when they buy the series set. So, yeah...your plan is a great idea, market it to people who don't want it, and annot the people who do. You'd fit right in at the BBC.
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