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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Oct 13, 2015 1:52:38 GMT
I'd like to hear Hurt encounter (for a third time) the Xenomorphs. And maybe Caligula. and War meeting Lethbridge-Stewart could have been interesting, maybe as something leading into "No More"? After all, he decides it at the end of "Engine of War" maybe he seeks out the one man who might be able to advise him.
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Post by TheTimelordSpy on Oct 13, 2015 5:32:51 GMT
I'd like to hear Hurt encounter (for a third time) the Xenomorphs. And maybe Caligula. and War meeting Lethbridge-Stewart could have been interesting, maybe as something leading into "No More"? After all, he decides it at the end of "Engine of War" maybe he seeks out the one man who might be able to advise him. That would actually be interesting to see. War running off to the brig using him as a therapist or someone of to give him advice in this war. The brig is an expert soldier after all, but i doubt war would have left the front lines so i dont see it happening
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Oct 13, 2015 8:39:29 GMT
Which is why I positioned it around the "No More" decision, he's had enough and wants to find himself, who better than Lethbridge-Stewart? Interesting that the one time he does "Doctor" it involves a Lethbridge-Stewart.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 13, 2015 15:32:27 GMT
War likely wouldn't care. You must have seen a different War Doctor to the one I saw. He was at the end of that incarnation's life in Day of the Doctor. I'm trying to imagine how War would have been pre-Engines and Day based on how much 10 and 11 resented him.
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Post by david on Oct 13, 2015 15:59:03 GMT
You must have seen a different War Doctor to the one I saw. He was at the end of that incarnation's life in Day of the Doctor. I'm trying to imagine how War would have been pre-Engines and Day based on how much 10 and 11 resented him. But they didn't resent him at the end of Day Of The Doctor - that's the whole dramatic point of that part of the story. They accept him as being "The Doctor" after all because he didn't commit the genocide they believed he had. They clearly liked him and respected him by the end. As did Clara who I can't imagine would be hugging and kissing goodbye to him at the gallery scene if he was the kind of monster you seem to think he was.
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Post by TheTimelordSpy on Oct 13, 2015 17:40:52 GMT
He was at the end of that incarnation's life in Day of the Doctor. I'm trying to imagine how War would have been pre-Engines and Day based on how much 10 and 11 resented him. But they didn't resent him at the end of Day Of The Doctor - that's the whole dramatic point of that part of the story. They accept him as being "The Doctor" after all because he didn't commit the genocide they believed he had. They clearly liked him and respected him by the end. As did Clara who I can't imagine would be hugging and kissing goodbye to him at the gallery scene if he was the kind of monster you seem to think he was. Basically this. The War Doctor was always the doctor who had to make the morally corrupt choices while feeling regret for them in my mind.
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Post by jasonward on Oct 13, 2015 18:00:19 GMT
I'm not sure we can call choices like that morally corrupt, perhaps morally bankrupt? Faced with a "Sophie's choice" type situation, it doesn't matter what choice you make, you will never forgive yourself, and nobody can 2nd guess you, there is no right decision, maybe, just maybe a lesser evil, but no where near enough to make you feel better about the choice, your choice, whatever the choice, will always be an evil thing.
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Post by TheTimelordSpy on Oct 13, 2015 18:14:09 GMT
I'm not sure we can call choices like that morally corrupt, perhaps morally bankrupt? Faced with a "Sophie's choice" type situation, it doesn't matter what choice you make, you will never forgive yourself, and nobody can 2nd guess you, there is no right decision, maybe, just maybe a lesser evil, but no where near enough to make you feel better about the choice, your choice, whatever the choice, will always be an evil thing. Probably a better term.
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Post by mrperson on Oct 13, 2015 18:40:48 GMT
I'd like to hear Hurt encounter (for a third time) the Xenomorphs. And maybe Caligula.Using sound bites from "I, Claudius"?
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Oct 14, 2015 8:43:48 GMT
You must have seen a different War Doctor to the one I saw. He was at the end of that incarnation's life in Day of the Doctor. I'm trying to imagine how War would have been pre-Engines and Day based on how much 10 and 11 resented him. 2.47 Billion reasons Id say.
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Post by constonks on Oct 14, 2015 13:51:13 GMT
While I'm sure this is a fresh start designed as a jumping on point, I hope Big Finish continuity (Gallifrey, Dalek MR stories, Dark Eyes, etc) has some impact on the events and that we start getting cameos from Romana and other related characters at some point when they've already hooked new listeners - box set 3 or 4, likely.
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Post by mbt66 on Oct 14, 2015 14:24:22 GMT
Do you think he will have a companion?
I seem to remember that in Engines of War it implied that he had been travelling solo although of course that story gave him Cinder. And from a storytelling stand point I would imagine that he will need a companion even if they are one off and just like the Doctor not calling himself the Doctor the companion would not be considered by the Doctor as such.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 14, 2015 15:59:57 GMT
While I'm sure this is a fresh start designed as a jumping on point, I hope Big Finish continuity (Gallifrey, Dalek MR stories, Dark Eyes, etc) has some impact on the events and that we start getting cameos from Romana and other related characters at some point when they've already hooked new listeners - box set 3 or 4, likely. I wonder if Drax may appear?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 16:05:49 GMT
Do you think he will have a companion? I seem to remember that in Engines of War it implied that he had been travelling solo although of course that story gave him Cinder. And from a storytelling stand point I would imagine that he will need a companion even if they are one off and just like the Doctor not calling himself the Doctor the companion would not be considered by the Doctor as such. I guess we'll find out as we get casting announcements, but you're right that the audio format pretty much demands someone for him to talk to. Someone male would be good for a change
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Post by david on Oct 14, 2015 16:15:44 GMT
Do you think he will have a companion? I seem to remember that in Engines of War it implied that he had been travelling solo although of course that story gave him Cinder. And from a storytelling stand point I would imagine that he will need a companion even if they are one off and just like the Doctor not calling himself the Doctor the companion would not be considered by the Doctor as such. I guess we'll find out as we get casting announcements, but you're right that the audio format pretty much demands someone for him to talk to. Someone male would be good for a change With the set coming out so soon, we got a lot (all of?) the casting announcements with the listing. Who's to say the companion (or at least companion like figure) isn't listed here already: John Hurt (The War Doctor), Jacqueline Pearce (Cardinal Ollistra), Lucy Briggs-Owen (The Nursemaid), Carolyn Seymour (The Slave). Beth Chalmers (Veklin), Alex Wyndham (Seratrix), Kieran Hodgson (Bennus), Barnaby Edwards (Arverton), Mark McDonnell (Traanus) John Banks (Garv) and Nicholas Briggs as The Daleks.
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Post by TheTimelordSpy on Oct 14, 2015 16:30:24 GMT
He will of course have someone with him or there wouldnt be a story. Who knows if they are a companion persay.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 16:32:41 GMT
I guess we'll find out as we get casting announcements, but you're right that the audio format pretty much demands someone for him to talk to. Someone male would be good for a change With the set coming out so soon, we got a lot (all of?) the casting announcements with the listing. Who's to say the companion (or at least companion like figure) isn't listed here already: John Hurt (The War Doctor), Jacqueline Pearce (Cardinal Ollistra), Lucy Briggs-Owen (The Nursemaid), Carolyn Seymour (The Slave). Beth Chalmers (Veklin), Alex Wyndham (Seratrix), Kieran Hodgson (Bennus), Barnaby Edwards (Arverton), Mark McDonnell (Traanus) John Banks (Garv) and Nicholas Briggs as The Daleks. Am I the only one who thinks some of those names sound like Thals?
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Post by constonks on Oct 14, 2015 21:50:59 GMT
He will of course have someone with him or there wouldnt be a story. Who knows if they are a companion persay. I think he is a Doctor (or notdoctor) very well suited to late-Sylvester-style solo adventures. Also, as for all the folks saying Jacobi, my only problem with that would be how the Tenth Doctor didn't recognize the Master in Utopia. Better to see a "young" War Doctor (or Eight) paired with the Macqueen Master I think. Or a Master Time War box set with little to no Doctor involvement - two Macqueen stories, two Jacobi and a regeneration in the middle.
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Post by TheTimelordSpy on Oct 14, 2015 23:25:25 GMT
He will of course have someone with him or there wouldnt be a story. Who knows if they are a companion persay. I think he is a Doctor (or notdoctor) very well suited to late-Sylvester-style solo adventures. Also, as for all the folks saying Jacobi, my only problem with that would be how the Tenth Doctor didn't recognize the Master in Utopia. Better to see a "young" War Doctor (or Eight) paired with the Macqueen Master I think. Or a Master Time War box set with little to no Doctor involvement - two Macqueen stories, two Jacobi and a regeneration in the middle. I can agree with that.
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Post by lidar on Oct 15, 2015 7:56:07 GMT
Haven't read the previous 6 pages so apologies if I am repeating something said earlier but I'd like to see the whole of the War Doctor's life, not just the bit at the end when looked like he does in Day of the Doctor. I'd like to see his early days, maybe with a cover photograph of a young John Hurt from the same period as the one used at the end of Night of the Doctor. For instance, his immediate post-regeneration story, set immediately after Night would be interesting.
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