|
Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jun 15, 2020 18:58:16 GMT
Also we know that James Dreyfus was in a Tom story quiet some time ago, so I am curious to see if he might make a surprise appearance in one of the Fourth Doctor Adventures in 2021...perhaps more likely to be the following year when Leela isn’t around. I hope not
|
|
mbt66
Chancellery Guard
Likes: 3,081
|
Post by mbt66 on Jun 15, 2020 20:57:44 GMT
Also we know that James Dreyfus was in a Tom story quiet some time ago, so I am curious to see if he might make a surprise appearance in one of the Fourth Doctor Adventures in 2021...perhaps more likely to be the following year when Leela isn’t around. I hope not Is your hope because of the possibility of Too Many Masters’ stories in such a short period of time? Or is your hope regarding not wanting to hear from that particular Master again?
|
|
|
Post by xlozdob on Jun 15, 2020 22:24:26 GMT
Just had a thought. Considering next year is the fiftieth anniversary of the first appearance of the Master and the fact we’re getting both Masterful and MASTER, it would only make sense for Delgado Master to appear in next years Third Doctor Adventures boxset. Trouble is, the last thing you’d want from a Year of the Master is over saturation so I’m not sure if they’ll leave his introduction until later or simply have him appear in one of the Monthly Adventures. I like the idea of the Master in the Third Doctor Adventures with Jo and UNIT, but I also wonder if the Master could meet Sarah Jane Smith, either the Delgado version or perhaps a different incarnation? Also we know that James Dreyfus was in a Tom story quiet some time ago, so I am curious to see if he might make a surprise appearance in one of the Fourth Doctor Adventures in 2021...perhaps more likely to be the following year when Leela isn’t around. Wasn't that Blood of the Time Lords, released in 2022?
|
|
|
Post by axelotl38 on Jun 16, 2020 1:19:13 GMT
I like the idea of the Master in the Third Doctor Adventures with Jo and UNIT, but I also wonder if the Master could meet Sarah Jane Smith, either the Delgado version or perhaps a different incarnation? Also we know that James Dreyfus was in a Tom story quiet some time ago, so I am curious to see if he might make a surprise appearance in one of the Fourth Doctor Adventures in 2021...perhaps more likely to be the following year when Leela isn’t around. Wasn't that Blood of the Time Lords, released in 2022? We don't know for certain. The timeframes sorta match-up (even though Annette Badland recorded her bits with a couple months difference, though it's easily possible they simply recorded Dreyfus/Baker in one session and the rest of the cast in another). Some speculate Blood is the story with The Nine but I strongly suspect that's Dreams of Avarice. Ultimately we don't know for certain but it seems the most likely.
|
|
|
Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jun 16, 2020 8:17:17 GMT
Is your hope because of the possibility of Too Many Masters’ stories in such a short period of time? Or is your hope regarding not wanting to hear from that particular Master again? The latter.
|
|
|
Post by theillusiveman on Jun 16, 2020 13:24:47 GMT
Just had a thought. Considering next year is the fiftieth anniversary of the first appearance of the Master and the fact we’re getting both Masterful and MASTER, it would only make sense for Delgado Master to appear in next years Third Doctor Adventures boxset. Trouble is, the last thing you’d want from a Year of the Master is over saturation so I’m not sure if they’ll leave his introduction until later or simply have him appear in one of the Monthly Adventures. I like the idea of the Master in the Third Doctor Adventures with Jo and UNIT, but I also wonder if the Master could meet Sarah Jane Smith, either the Delgado version or perhaps a different incarnation? Also we know that James Dreyfus was in a Tom story quiet some time ago, so I am curious to see if he might make a surprise appearance in one of the Fourth Doctor Adventures in 2021...perhaps more likely to be the following year when Leela isn’t around.
Well Big Finish has hinted that there are going to be 3/Sarah Audios so its possible that Sarah Jane so its possible The Master might turn up in that story- there are two possibilities- Delgardo Recast or Beevers Master and yeah he has two more stories
|
|
|
Post by Whovitt on Jun 16, 2020 13:46:46 GMT
I like the idea of the Master in the Third Doctor Adventures with Jo and UNIT, but I also wonder if the Master could meet Sarah Jane Smith, either the Delgado version or perhaps a different incarnation? Also we know that James Dreyfus was in a Tom story quiet some time ago, so I am curious to see if he might make a surprise appearance in one of the Fourth Doctor Adventures in 2021...perhaps more likely to be the following year when Leela isn’t around.
Well Big Finish has hinted that there are going to be 3/Sarah Audios so its possible that Sarah Jane so its possible The Master might turn up in that story- there are two possibilities- Delgardo Recast or Beevers Master and yeah he has two more stories
The thing with Sarah and the Master though is that the Third Doctor had to introduce Sarah to the Master in The Five Doctors as she hadn't met him before. I suppose you could come up with some sort of workaround but it would always feel a bit cheat-y to me.
|
|
mbt66
Chancellery Guard
Likes: 3,081
|
Post by mbt66 on Jun 16, 2020 17:44:22 GMT
I like the idea of the Master in the Third Doctor Adventures with Jo and UNIT, but I also wonder if the Master could meet Sarah Jane Smith, either the Delgado version or perhaps a different incarnation? Also we know that James Dreyfus was in a Tom story quiet some time ago, so I am curious to see if he might make a surprise appearance in one of the Fourth Doctor Adventures in 2021...perhaps more likely to be the following year when Leela isn’t around.
Well Big Finish has hinted that there are going to be 3/Sarah Audios so its possible that Sarah Jane so its possible The Master might turn up in that story- there are two possibilities- Delgardo Recast or Beevers Master and yeah he has two more stories
Is that Dreyfus has two more stories?! I assumed it was just the one Fourth Doctor story still to be released. Surely if it has been this long it will have to be another Tom story, unless they planned a long way in advance with Masterful.
|
|
mbt66
Chancellery Guard
Likes: 3,081
|
Post by mbt66 on Jun 16, 2020 21:01:23 GMT
Well Big Finish has hinted that there are going to be 3/Sarah Audios so its possible that Sarah Jane so its possible The Master might turn up in that story- there are two possibilities- Delgardo Recast or Beevers Master and yeah he has two more stories
The thing with Sarah and the Master though is that the Third Doctor had to introduce Sarah to the Master in The Five Doctors as she hadn't met him before. I suppose you could come up with some sort of workaround but it would always feel a bit cheat-y to me. I did wonder about the Five Doctors, although I cannot recall their exchange. I guess I will need to watch it. I don’t suppose it could be interpreted that Sarah didn’t recognise the Ainley incarnation as the Master as he wasn’t the version she encountered and when the Third Doctor explained who he was she didn’t want to interrupt as she had never met the Master with the him, but she had met him with “the other guy”?
|
|
|
Post by Whovitt on Jun 16, 2020 23:12:54 GMT
The thing with Sarah and the Master though is that the Third Doctor had to introduce Sarah to the Master in The Five Doctors as she hadn't met him before. I suppose you could come up with some sort of workaround but it would always feel a bit cheat-y to me. I did wonder about the Five Doctors, although I cannot recall their exchange. I guess I will need to watch it. I don’t suppose it could be interpreted that Sarah didn’t recognise the Ainley incarnation as the Master as he wasn’t the version she encountered and when the Third Doctor explained who he was she didn’t want to interrupt as she had never met the Master with the him, but she had met him with “the other guy”? Personally, I'd say she shouldn't have known as the Doctor says "He's my best enemy. He likes to be known as the Master, don't you?" That implies she doesn't know anything about him to me. Like I say, they could come up with a workaround but it would feel a bit cheat-y.
|
|
|
Post by fitzoliverj on Jun 17, 2020 16:58:52 GMT
Also we know that James Dreyfus was in a Tom story quiet some time ago, so I am curious to see if he might make a surprise appearance in one of the Fourth Doctor Adventures in 2021 Did they say they'd recorded something together but it's not yet been released? Because if so I wouldn't be surprised if they re-recorded it with Milo Parker at this stage.
Oh, and so long as the hypothetical 3/Sarah/Master story takes place *after* the third Doctor went to the Death Zone, there's no continuity issue.
|
|
|
Post by cwm on Jun 17, 2020 19:27:04 GMT
We know that:
- Dreyfus recorded a Fourth Doctor Adventure as the Master circa mid-2017 - As far as we know, it is the only unreleased story featuring his Master - That was the first story Dreyfus recorded, and his incarnation of the Master was invented specifically for it
The outstanding story being "Blood of the Time Lords" is guesswork, but it does seem to fit with everything we know.
|
|
mbt66
Chancellery Guard
Likes: 3,081
|
Post by mbt66 on Jun 17, 2020 19:54:51 GMT
We know that: - Dreyfus recorded a Fourth Doctor Adventure as the Master circa mid-2017 - As far as we know, it is the only unreleased story featuring his Master - That was the first story Dreyfus recorded, and his incarnation of the Master was invented specifically for itThe outstanding story being "Blood of the Time Lords" is guesswork, but it does seem to fit with everything we know. Oh, I wasn’t aware that! When was that stated? I had assumed that Big Finish wanted a Master as a marketing gimmick for the First Doctor boxset, so that was the reason a new incarnation was created, thereby allowing both the First and Second Doctor to have the Master as an adversary going forward. The Dreyfus Master being with the Fourth Doctor always seemed odd, although no odder than him appearing with the Seventh Doctor. He being introduced specifically for a Fourth Doctor story puts a whole new spin on the incarnation and suddenly he seems a lot more interesting.
|
|
|
Post by grinch on Jun 17, 2020 19:57:44 GMT
We know that: - Dreyfus recorded a Fourth Doctor Adventure as the Master circa mid-2017 - As far as we know, it is the only unreleased story featuring his Master - That was the first story Dreyfus recorded, and his incarnation of the Master was invented specifically for it The outstanding story being "Blood of the Time Lords" is guesswork, but it does seem to fit with everything we know. I almost feel like if there were more as yet unknown stories featuring his Master, considering what happened, they’d have released details of them already. You know, to get it out of the way.
|
|
|
Post by Audio Watchdog on Jun 21, 2020 0:32:05 GMT
Due to the way they record, if Big Finish wanted to they could bring in any of the other actors they currently have playing the Master to rerecord the story Dreyfus performed in. Big Finish no doubt paid Dreyfus for his work, so their obligation to him is finished. They would have to be careful in how they word their press materials but they don't have to release the audio with him in it.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Likes:
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2020 0:55:52 GMT
Due to the way they record, if Big Finish wanted to they could bring in any of the other actors they currently have playing the Master to rerecord the story Dreyfus performed in. Big Finish no doubt paid Dreyfus for his work, so their obligation to him is finished. They would have to be careful in how they word their press materials but they don't have to release the audio with him in it. Why? Have we really become so intolerant of peoples personal opinions?
|
|
mbt66
Chancellery Guard
Likes: 3,081
|
Post by mbt66 on Jun 21, 2020 12:36:25 GMT
Due to the way they record, if Big Finish wanted to they could bring in any of the other actors they currently have playing the Master to rerecord the story Dreyfus performed in. Big Finish no doubt paid Dreyfus for his work, so their obligation to him is finished. They would have to be careful in how they word their press materials but they don't have to release the audio with him in it. Why? Have we really become so intolerant of peoples personal opinions? I think the IF in the previous statement is important. His omission from the Masterful cast list is an indication that Big Finish do not wish to use the James Dreyfus Master in the future, so... IF Big Finish determine that the cost is too high in monetary and publicity terms, then a recast would be appropriate. Do Big Finish consider there was a drop in sales due to the actors inclusion? And with anything involving Tom Baker playing the Fourth Doctor newsworthy, especially him facing a new version of his arch nemesis, would they want to avoid such negative publicity? In fact with so many other Masters now available to Big Finish there could be a positive spin to replacing his Master with a higher profile Master. Imagine the positive publicity for Blood of the Time Lords starring Tom Baker as the Doctor and John Simms as the Master!
|
|
|
Post by cwm on Jun 21, 2020 13:57:47 GMT
Due to the way they record, if Big Finish wanted to they could bring in any of the other actors they currently have playing the Master to rerecord the story Dreyfus performed in. Big Finish no doubt paid Dreyfus for his work, so their obligation to him is finished. They would have to be careful in how they word their press materials but they don't have to release the audio with him in it. Why? Have we really become so intolerant of peoples personal opinions? Dreyfus is a transphobic bigot, and BF are perfectly entitled to not employ him again on that basis.
|
|
|
Post by theillusiveman on Jun 24, 2020 11:03:33 GMT
Honestly Big Finish should just simply release his remaining stories and just close that chapter with that Master They likely wont have him ever coming back for future stories given his exclusion from Masterful and before everyone gets angry if they release his stories remember You don't have to buy the audios!
We have more Master Stories with Eric Roberts, Derek Jacobi and John Simm coming in the future
lets just focus on them shall we?
|
|
|
Post by grinch on Jun 24, 2020 11:13:41 GMT
Honestly Big Finish should just simply release his remaining stories and just close that chapter with that Master They likely wont have him ever coming back for future stories given his exclusion from Masterful and before everyone gets angry if they release his stories remember You don't have to buy the audios! We have more Master Stories with Eric Roberts, Derek Jacobi and John Simm coming in the future lets just focus on them shall we? Well said. My thoughts exactly.
|
|