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Post by randomjc on Feb 18, 2016 22:17:38 GMT
Lazenby. I'm not being as tongue-in-check as you'd think.
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Post by adanflyber on Feb 18, 2016 22:29:17 GMT
If we can go for a younger Bond, why not somebody like Jim Sturgess, for example?
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Post by agentten on Feb 18, 2016 22:59:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 23:25:41 GMT
That theory fails for one rather glaring reason - why is Roger Moore at Sean Connery's wife's grave. laying flowers for her? That people need an explanation is beyond me. It was a successful franchise and they wanted to keep making them after the star said he was done. That's all you need.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 18, 2016 23:50:32 GMT
That theory fails for one rather glaring reason - why is Roger Moore at Sean Connery's wife's grave. laying flowers for her? Maybe she was an agent too, pretending to be Bond's wife?
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Post by grazey on Feb 19, 2016 0:03:34 GMT
Based upon the guest I think Dan Stevens would make a good bond
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Post by agentten on Feb 19, 2016 1:53:26 GMT
That theory fails for one rather glaring reason - why is Roger Moore at Sean Connery's wife's grave. laying flowers for her? That people need an explanation is beyond me. It was a successful franchise and they wanted to keep making them after the star said he was done. That's all you need. I'm not sure the theory holds up to scrutiny, but one thing I've seen mooted to explain why other Bonds react to Tracy Bond's death or why in Skyfall Bond has an ancestral home with grave stones for his parents is that mind control might be involved. MI6 would be going pretty far to create a persona of the fearless, unstoppable 007 and it periodically needs reinforcement because it needs to hold up when tested. So they would basically be imprinting "James Bond" onto various agents who either die or are retired and have their memories wiped. This explains why they all seem to remember Tracy and remember Bond's parents and childhood. MI6 continues to update the cover story with their new imprints so that they don't have an agent out there who encounters someone who knows that Blofeld once killed Bond's wife but the agent has no memory of it. This theory also explains why Bond's friend Felix changes periodically. He's the CIA opposite of Bond and the same techniques are used, right down to both agents having memories of the friendship imprinted on them to make liaison between the two agencies easier. Again, not sure the theory works out ultimately, but I do think it's pretty fun to speculate on and can add an interesting layer to the films.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 19, 2016 9:12:02 GMT
That theory fails for one rather glaring reason - why is Roger Moore at Sean Connery's wife's grave. laying flowers for her? That people need an explanation is beyond me. It was a successful franchise and they wanted to keep making them after the star said he was done. That's all you need. I'm not sure the theory holds up to scrutiny, but one thing I've seen mooted to explain why other Bonds react to Tracy Bond's death or why in Skyfall Bond has an ancestral home with grave stones for his parents is that mind control might be involved. MI6 would be going pretty far to create a persona of the fearless, unstoppable 007 and it periodically needs reinforcement because it needs to hold up when tested. So they would basically be imprinting "James Bond" onto various agents who either die or are retired and have their memories wiped. This explains why they all seem to remember Tracy and remember Bond's parents and childhood. MI6 continues to update the cover story with their new imprints so that they don't have an agent out there who encounters someone who knows that Blofeld once killed Bond's wife but the agent has no memory of it. This theory also explains why Bond's friend Felix changes periodically. He's the CIA opposite of Bond and the same techniques are used, right down to both agents having memories of the friendship imprinted on them to make liaison between the two agencies easier. Again, not sure the theory works out ultimately, but I do think it's pretty fun to speculate on and can add an interesting layer to the films. If they introduce that theory in a future James Bond film, then I'll be much more interested in the franchise personally.
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Post by randomjc on Feb 19, 2016 12:01:20 GMT
Why does there need to be theory?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 12:55:25 GMT
Why does there need to be theory? You ask that on a forum populated by Doctor Who fans?!
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Post by randomjc on Feb 19, 2016 17:14:18 GMT
Why does there need to be theory? You ask that on a forum populated by Doctor Who fans?! Point. I think I'll go over some place else and not get involved.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 19, 2016 18:09:27 GMT
Why does there need to be theory? I just think it would make it more believable. I find it hard to see Daniel Craig as the same person as Sean Connery when Daniel Craig doesn't look like Sean Connery.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 18:31:46 GMT
Why does there need to be theory? I just think it would make it more believable. I find it hard to see Daniel Craig as the same person as Sean Connery when Daniel Craig doesn't look like Sean Connery. It's also getting hard to believe that the same person has been an active 00 agent for over fifty years now.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 19, 2016 18:34:26 GMT
I just think it would make it more believable. I find it hard to see Daniel Craig as the same person as Sean Connery when Daniel Craig doesn't look like Sean Connery. It's also getting hard to believe that the same person has been an active 00 agent for over fifty years now. Agreed. Although I suppose 'Bond Retires' wouldn't be a very exciting proposal for a spy movie.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 18:36:23 GMT
It's also getting hard to believe that the same person has been an active 00 agent for over fifty years now. Agreed. Although I suppose 'Bond Retires' wouldn't be a very exciting proposal for a spy movie. Bet they could build some great gadgets for his zimmer frame
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 19, 2016 19:15:26 GMT
Agreed. Although I suppose 'Bond Retires' wouldn't be a very exciting proposal for a spy movie. Bet they could build some great gadgets for his zimmer frame What about laser missiles built into an elderly scooter?
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Post by randomjc on Feb 19, 2016 20:02:43 GMT
Why does there need to be theory? I just think it would make it more believable. I find it hard to see Daniel Craig as the same person as Sean Connery when Daniel Craig doesn't look like Sean Connery. I'm seriously not going down this rabbit hole.
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Post by fitzoliverj on Feb 20, 2016 9:02:55 GMT
Assuming that Judi Dench plays the same character throughout, then Connery/Lazenby/Connery/Moore/Dalton/Brosnan isn't the same person as Craig. Whether Connery/Lazenby/Connery/Moore/Dalton/Brosnan is one person, however, is a one whole big can o' worms....
And as for the original question, I have no idea. The only suggestion I've heard that I find appealing would be for Damian Lewis to be cast, and I think he's probably too old to start on the role now.
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Post by Timelord007 on Feb 20, 2016 9:04:46 GMT
The Craig bonds are a reboot of the character, the previous 4 Bonds are playing the same 007.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 2:54:51 GMT
The Craig bonds are a reboot of the character, the previous 4 Bonds are playing the same 007. One of the video games references A View to a Kill, so at the very least Brosnan and Moore played the same Bond. I think it's much like the many iterations of Sherlock Holmes from Basil Rathbone to Nicholas Briggs. They're unconnected until they're not. Aside from Tracy, no other Bond girl really gets a mention in the films following her initial appearance after all. Regardless, the films themselves go in cycles depending on what's happening in the world at the time, the sixties were a happy median, the seventies got very light, the eighties got very dark, the nineties got light again, the noughties got dark again... It's probable that we're going to have another gentleman spy on our hands. I'd rather like Michael Fassbender to take a stab at the role. Either him or Richard Armitage, maybe? Henry Cavill? It's a bit off-topic, but I'd love to see David Souchet or Leonardo de Caprio as Bond villains.
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