Was Hell Bent one return too many for Clara?

The whole of series 9 was, for me. I think Last Christmas would have been a wonderful poignant ending if it had finished with the Doctor at her dying bedside. It really felt like they kept her around for a year just for the sake of a good gimmick they'd thought of doing at the end of the series.

That was the best one for me.  They had a really dysfunctional relationship, and to have it end with them both lying to the other to try and make them happy, only for neither of them to be so, was poignant, fitting and unique.  Every exit after that was just diminishing returns.

Preach. The effectiveness of Clara's departures really goes Death in Heaven, Last Christmas, Face the Raven, Hell Bent.

Although I would say Kill the Moon was pretty effective too (as much as DIH), but Mummy was a good follow-up to that.

Heavens Sent was excellent with Capaldi being brilliant in this one handed episode, Hell Bent however was awful & in my opinion possibly the worst finale of Nu-Who.

Her ending in Face The Raven was fitting for the character & was a strong end for the character but nah Moffat can't keep anyone dead for 5 minutes so she's resurrected into a awful finale & ambiguous end with the awful Me.

Face The Raven was the perfect ending, dramatic, emotional & bittersweet, check out Stubagfuls comments on Hell Bent on You Tube he sums the episode up brilliantly.

I'm slowly losing interest in Moffats era, i think Big Finish deliver far stronger stories than this fluffy bafflegab.

These forums need a thumbs down/dislike button!!! 

I would have preferred her to have left at the end of S8 (as it was originally planned?), but barring that, this.


Especially because it's that kind of death that can make it much easier for writers to create real suspense in other episodes. It's very hard to do that if the audience feels that everything is safe. But, if a companion can get themselves killed with an innocent mistake or, here, with overconfidence....well... then you just don't know what's going to happen in the future.



But no, he just couldn't leave her dead. He had to bring her back to life in a way that doesn't merely save her, but could allow her to extend her life indefinitely beyond the normal human life span. And, of course, he had to make her the center of Hell Bent, when Hell Bent should have been all about Gallifrey's return and various complications associated with it.

Ah well. One more season of this kind of thing, and we'll see how Chinball does things.

Let's not put that out into the universe, lest it become true. One more season and then hopefully a breath of fresh air and an era of consequences. Saccharine fairy tales are a nice change, but building your modus operandi on them can only get you so far. Even Disney isn't immune to the stagnation of that particular formula and just look what they've been able to accomplish by moving beyond it. For those of you who enjoyed this era, sincerely good on you. I'm not one to deprive anyone else of their bonheur if I can help it, but for me personally, enough has well and truly been enough and I cannot wait for what lies beyond the next horizon.

I quite liked it, the thing about Moffat's shows is that they're disruptive, they're never what you expect. That can be good thing, but after a few years I think it becomes a problem.

Have you read the script for the show. The description of Capaldi's Doctor stealing the new TARDIS is brilliant.