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Post by Trace on Jun 6, 2019 0:13:43 GMT
Just finished 1060 meaning goodbye Parallel Time! It was quite fun while it lasted by the end, especially once Roger went all murder crazy and pretty much killed the entire cast. Angelique and Timothy Stokes made a fun pair of villains and the final episode ending on Collinwood burning to the ground with only Maggie and Quentin left alive was a satisfying end. The Cyrus/Yaeger stuff was a bit of a drag and seemed almost endless at points, but once he was out of the picture Angelique was allowed in the spotlight once more so that's a plus. It is a bit sad that Denise Nickerson won't appear again and Roxanne Drew was a bit too bland. She only existed to be Barnabas' love interest and didn't have enough time to get character so really there isn't much to her. Roxanne Drew—patience mon ami!
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Post by Digi on Jun 25, 2019 12:11:55 GMT
There we go, things have gotten rolling again. I'm up to 116 now; Matthew has admitted he killed Bill Malloy and is hiding out in the Old House, the little toad David is bringing him food, and now has just taken Vicki captive (for the second time ). Odds and ends that have stood out to me in the last little while: - I was initially irritated that they changed the Sam Evans actor, because I quite liked the first guy they had. But this second one has really grown on me - Roger appearances have become a little bit sparse of late - Both Carolyn and Maggie seem to have vanished for quite a while now - I give David a lot of s**t, but honestly the kid is not the worst child actor I've ever seen, it's the character who's a toad - For all the times she flubs her lines, Joan Bennett is REALLY good with David Henesy. She's playing the aunt, but she's so good with kids that I almost wonder if it was a mistake not to cast her as David's mother. Of course, they couldn't know that when casting, and it would screw up the whole 'messed up kid/jerk dad' dynamic of the show, so who knows - Mitch Ryan is also really good with Henesy. I get the feeling that the "Davy" affectation is something that came up on the fly/accidentally during filming one day and stuck, because it's so warm and friendly - It's weirdly unnatural to hear the (particularly male) characters all referring to each other by surname (Roger calling Sam "Evans," Sam calling Roger "Collins," Burke doing the same with both). It almost sounds like writers' room shorthand lazily slipping into the scripts, without regard for how it actually sounds when spoken aloud - God damn, the guy playing Matthew is a creepy SOB, isn't he? Oh and hey, what was with the weird episode number skipping around 108 or so? For a couple minutes I thought I had missed something, but then realized that the actual onscreen narrative had continued without missing a beat.
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Post by Rob Morris on Jun 25, 2019 12:55:39 GMT
Oh and hey, what was with the weird episode number skipping around 108 or so? For a couple minutes I thought I had missed something, but then realized that the actual onscreen narrative had continued without missing a beat. They liked to keep the episode numbers so that ones ending in 1 or 6 broadcast on Mondays, and 5 or 0 broadcast on Fridays. When they had to skip a day's transmission they'd skip the episode number. Apparently there is no 109 or 110 because of Thankgiving and some football game. You'll find a lot of these "preemption"s over time...
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Post by Digi on Jun 25, 2019 13:18:11 GMT
Oh and hey, what was with the weird episode number skipping around 108 or so? For a couple minutes I thought I had missed something, but then realized that the actual onscreen narrative had continued without missing a beat. They liked to keep the episode numbers so that ones ending in 1 or 6 broadcast on Mondays, and 5 or 0 broadcast on Fridays. When they had to skip a day's transmission they'd skip the episode number. Apparently there is no 109 or 110 because of Thankgiving and some football game. You'll find a lot of these "preemption"s over time... That's....a little odd, but okay then! Thanks! Yeah a few days ago I started watching at 107, was about three episodes along and had to pause and the Amazon Prime overlay came up and it said 111 and my brain immediately went "what? how long have I been sitting here? I could swear I should only be on 109!" Backed out into the menu and saw that 108 was listed as "108/109/110"...which left me even more confused, because it definitely was not 60 minutes long
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Post by bobod on Jun 25, 2019 14:55:33 GMT
I give David a lot of s**t, but honestly the kid is not the worst child actor I've ever seen, it's the character who's a toad Not the worst? He's one of the best I've seen. And better than some of the adult DS actors.
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Post by bobod on Jun 25, 2019 14:57:41 GMT
I get the feeling that the "Davy" affectation is something that came up on the fly/accidentally during filming one day and stuck, because it's so warm and friendly I don't know for certain but I doubt it as it appears elsewhere in Dan Curtis's works.
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Post by bobod on Jun 25, 2019 15:02:29 GMT
It's weirdly unnatural to hear the (particularly male) characters all referring to each other by surname (Roger calling Sam "Evans," Sam calling Roger "Collins," Burke doing the same with both). It almost sounds like writers' room shorthand lazily slipping into the scripts, without regard for how it actually sounds when spoken aloud It's fairly common in drama from the time, surely? The Doctor calls Ian 'Chesterton' more often than he calls him Ian. And it makes sense in the fiction, Roger calls Sam 'Evans' to signify he's superior to him. Burke calls Roger 'Collins' because he's contemptuous of him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 16:33:16 GMT
I give David a lot of s**t, but honestly the kid is not the worst child actor I've ever seen, it's the character who's a toad Not the worst? He's one of the best I've seen. And better than some of the adult DS actors. Yeah, he carried whole arcs better than a lot of his co-stars, and he pulls off a lot more of the spectrum of emotions than more than a few who are pretty one-note.
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Post by Trace on Jun 27, 2019 0:25:43 GMT
They liked to keep the episode numbers so that ones ending in 1 or 6 broadcast on Mondays, and 5 or 0 broadcast on Fridays. When they had to skip a day's transmission they'd skip the episode number. Apparently there is no 109 or 110 because of Thankgiving and some football game. You'll find a lot of these "preemption"s over time... That's....a little odd, but okay then! Thanks! Yeah a few days ago I started watching at 107, was about three episodes along and had to pause and the Amazon Prime overlay came up and it said 111 and my brain immediately went "what? how long have I been sitting here? I could swear I should only be on 109!" Backed out into the menu and saw that 108 was listed as "108/109/110"...which left me even more confused, because it definitely was not 60 minutes long There are 20 of them, to be exact. The original series was preempted 20 times for whatever reason during its 5-year run. You’ll miss nothing since, as you’ve noticed, the producers skipped the episode numbers only, not the episodes themselves. There are exactly 1,225 episodes which are numbered up through #1,245. Interesting fact—out of 1,225 episodes, there was only one episode which was completely lost, which is unheard of for American soap operas—very few soaps were saved, because they were never expected to be aired again! And that one lost DS episode has been re-created with still photographs from surrounding episodes, an existing audio track, and some recorded narration from Lara Parker. So you will see all 1,225 episodes. There are a small number of times where the final original aired version has been lost, but in all the cases except that one, there were existing kinescope copies. You’ll notice them because the transfer is not the best quality, in both audio and video. It’s not terribly noticeable while you’re in the black and white episodes, but is more so when you get to the color years, because the kinescope episodes are black and white. So you’ll have a random black and white episode in the color years, and that’s the reason why. Considering the sheer number of episodes, 20 or so kinescope replacements and only 1 re-created episode is quite amazing!
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Post by Digi on Jun 27, 2019 1:13:59 GMT
That's....a little odd, but okay then! Thanks! Yeah a few days ago I started watching at 107, was about three episodes along and had to pause and the Amazon Prime overlay came up and it said 111 and my brain immediately went "what? how long have I been sitting here? I could swear I should only be on 109!" Backed out into the menu and saw that 108 was listed as "108/109/110"...which left me even more confused, because it definitely was not 60 minutes long There are 20 of them, to be exact. The original series was preempted 20 times for whatever reason during its 5-year run. You’ll miss nothing since, as you’ve noticed, the producers skipped the episode numbers only, not the episodes themselves. There are exactly 1,225 episodes which are numbered up through #1,245. Interesting fact—out of 1,225 episodes, there was only one episode which was completely lost, which is unheard of for American soap operas—very few soaps were saved, because they were never expected to be aired again! And that one lost DS episode has been re-created with still photographs from surrounding episodes, an existing audio track, and some recorded narration from Lara Parker. So you will see all 1,225 episodes. There are a small number of times where the final original aired version has been lost, but in all the cases except that one, there were existing kinescope copies. You’ll notice them because the transfer is not the best quality, in both audio and video. It’s not terribly noticeable while you’re in the black and white episodes, but is more so when you get to the color years, because the kinescope episodes are black and white. So you’ll have a random black and white episode in the color years, and that’s the reason why. Considering the sheer number of episodes, 20 or so kinescope replacements and only 1 re-created episode is quite amazing! That is very impressive! That single 'lost' episode, would you happen to know offhand how Prime approaches it? Does it have the audio track/Lara Parker thing, or do they just skip over it entirely and I'll have to look for it elsewhere? (Not that I'm in a huge hurry for this, I've still got quite a long way to go!)
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Post by Digi on Jun 27, 2019 1:17:36 GMT
I give David a lot of s**t, but honestly the kid is not the worst child actor I've ever seen, it's the character who's a toad Not the worst? He's one of the best I've seen. And better than some of the adult DS actors. That's....awfully generous, IMO I get the feeling that the "Davy" affectation is something that came up on the fly/accidentally during filming one day and stuck, because it's so warm and friendly I don't know for certain but I doubt it as it appears elsewhere in Dan Curtis's works. Ah. Could well be then! I just love how natural Mitch Ryan is about it, it doesn't even feel scripted. It's weirdly unnatural to hear the (particularly male) characters all referring to each other by surname (Roger calling Sam "Evans," Sam calling Roger "Collins," Burke doing the same with both). It almost sounds like writers' room shorthand lazily slipping into the scripts, without regard for how it actually sounds when spoken aloud It's fairly common in drama from the time, surely? The Doctor calls Ian 'Chesterton' more often than he calls him Ian. And it makes sense in the fiction, Roger calls Sam 'Evans' to signify he's superior to him. Burke calls Roger 'Collins' because he's contemptuous of him. Well-reasoned....still sounds odd
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Post by Trace on Jun 27, 2019 2:23:38 GMT
There are 20 of them, to be exact. The original series was preempted 20 times for whatever reason during its 5-year run. You’ll miss nothing since, as you’ve noticed, the producers skipped the episode numbers only, not the episodes themselves. There are exactly 1,225 episodes which are numbered up through #1,245. Interesting fact—out of 1,225 episodes, there was only one episode which was completely lost, which is unheard of for American soap operas—very few soaps were saved, because they were never expected to be aired again! And that one lost DS episode has been re-created with still photographs from surrounding episodes, an existing audio track, and some recorded narration from Lara Parker. So you will see all 1,225 episodes. There are a small number of times where the final original aired version has been lost, but in all the cases except that one, there were existing kinescope copies. You’ll notice them because the transfer is not the best quality, in both audio and video. It’s not terribly noticeable while you’re in the black and white episodes, but is more so when you get to the color years, because the kinescope episodes are black and white. So you’ll have a random black and white episode in the color years, and that’s the reason why. Considering the sheer number of episodes, 20 or so kinescope replacements and only 1 re-created episode is quite amazing! That is very impressive! That single 'lost' episode, would you happen to know offhand how Prime approaches it? Does it have the audio track/Lara Parker thing, or do they just skip over it entirely and I'll have to look for it elsewhere? (Not that I'm in a huge hurry for this, I've still got quite a long way to go!) I just checked on Prime, and yes, they air the recreated lost episode exactly as presented on the MPI home video releases (old VHS sets and all DVD sets). It’s episode #1,219 (the 1,199th episode), so you do have a long way to go!
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Post by bobod on Jul 19, 2019 12:19:34 GMT
Not the worst? He's one of the best I've seen. And better than some of the adult DS actors. Yeah, he carried whole arcs better than a lot of his co-stars, and he pulls off a lot more of the spectrum of emotions than more than a few who are pretty one-note. Exactly. He's remarkable in the Count Petofi plot. You'll not find many Dark Shadows fans with a criticism of Henesey's acting. Plenty who think David is a brat but not that will knock the performance.
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Post by newt5996 on Jul 30, 2019 5:44:26 GMT
I haven't watched a lot since my last update (Hallie Stokes is far too grating and the plot was going nowhere fast, but I plan to come back soon). I did get a friend to start watching (though he didn't start with episode 197 like I suggested, he started with episode 1). 5 episodes in and his reaction is "this show is fing weird".
He also doesn't seem to like Roger or Carolyn very much because of the whole kitten thing.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Aug 13, 2019 22:40:58 GMT
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Post by Trace on Aug 13, 2019 23:49:28 GMT
Squealing with delight at the moment!!!!
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Aug 14, 2019 1:04:29 GMT
Now.. what does this mean for the Range, will BF still have the rights to do stories under the Dark Shadows banner? HHMM
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Post by newt5996 on Aug 14, 2019 2:04:36 GMT
Now.. what does this mean for the Range, will BF still have the rights to do stories under the Dark Shadows banner? HHMM Probably just keep it to the original series considering the Burton Film didn't seem to cause problems and they have the license at least until 2021 if the plans are to be believed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2019 16:29:15 GMT
Squealing with delight at the moment!!!! If it means an end to the BIG FINISH RANGE i hope it doesnt come to fruition lol call me selfish hahahaha
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Post by silverednickle on Sept 12, 2019 19:02:38 GMT
Sometimes they're better about those credit revels than others.
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