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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 20:03:27 GMT
Hello everyone. A while back, an idea about doing a Doctor Who group listen-through and I was just thinking about how it would be great to do. After looking at the success of the Dark Shadows and Dorian Grey listen-through's and the ideas that were bounced around I was thinking that the best way to do it would be trilogies or small sets of stories set over a period time such as doing say a trilogy over a month. Now, I wouldn't want this to interfere with the other group listen-through's but I think it would be a great thing for Doctor who Fans to share the experience. So if anyone has any ideas or any concerns please feel free to comment. Thanks and everyone have a good day.
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Post by elkawho on Mar 4, 2016 1:45:05 GMT
I think this is a great idea. I love the group listens and we really need to do this for Doctor Who. Yes, it does need to be small trilogies or sets of stories. I like the idea of doing one set a month in general, however there's something about doing a story a week that keeps everyone on track. And where do we start? From the begin with Sirens of Time? Or should we pick a trilogy and run with it?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 1:55:46 GMT
I think this is a great idea. I love the group listens and we really need to do this for Doctor Who. Yes, it does need to be small trilogies or sets of stories. I like the idea of doing one set a month in general, however there's something about doing a story a week that keeps everyone on track. And where do we start? From the begin with Sirens of Time? Or should we pick a trilogy and run with it? My idea was that we could vote as a group for which set of stories we do which could vary the listening and would allow for us to look at doing other ranges such as the Companion Chronicles with the Sara Kingdom and Oliver Harper trilogies and we could even do an Unbound listen through closer to the Benny Boxset in preparation. As well, I'm just spitballing here but a couple of good sets of stories could be The 5 and Turlough solo adventures, 6 And Jaime, The Klein stories or even the 4th doctor novel adaptations. Thanks for your advice and ideas elkawho.
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Post by Hieronymus on Mar 4, 2016 3:10:48 GMT
It would be nice to have coordinated listening for some of the older stories, so discussion would be fresh.
This sort of discussion already happens with new releases, but it would take just this sort of coordinated effort for the same to happen with older releases.
It may mean that people drift in and out of participating, as stories are selected that perhaps have been listened to by some members (who then opt out for that story), but that's only to be expected.
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Post by cr1980 on Mar 4, 2016 3:26:57 GMT
I'd suggest it might be an idea to bias the choices to stuff that's cheaper to get. Current or recent Listeners releases, or the first fifty main range titles, are all pretty cheap. Having to purchase a block of main range stories could deter those with less complete collections from taking part. I'm not saying everything should be from the bargain basement, I think it's important to have plenty of variety, but it's something to keep in mind.
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Post by Hieronymus on Mar 4, 2016 3:44:11 GMT
I'd suggest it might be an idea to bias the choices to stuff that's cheaper to get. Current or recent Listeners releases, or the first fifty main range titles, are all pretty cheap. Perhaps we could ask people to which series (and where in those series) they are listening. For me, that's: MR 90-120 8DA S2 CC S2 Gallifrey S3 and I have yet to do Dalek Empire or the 6th Doctor Lost Stories If we did the first 50MR, I'd be out since I've listened to those and have moved on. But there's also no reason we couldn't have two stories discussed concurrently, with one of them always cheap, but the other not necessarily so. We've more than enough space to discuss two selections if it comes to that.
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Post by seeley on Mar 4, 2016 3:46:16 GMT
How many of us have the complete EDAs? They seem like an obvious choice for a listen-through.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 3:51:48 GMT
I'd suggest it might be an idea to bias the choices to stuff that's cheaper to get. Current or recent Listeners releases, or the first fifty main range titles, are all pretty cheap. Perhaps we could ask people to which series (and where in those series) they are listening. For me, that's: MR 90-120 8DA S2 CC S2 Gallifrey S3 and I have yet to do Dalek Empire or the 6th Doctor Lost Stories If we did the first 50MR, I'd be out since I've listened to those and have moved on. But there's also no reason we couldn't have two stories discussed concurrently, with one of them always cheap, but the other not necessarily so. We've more than enough space to discuss two selections if it comes to that. Yeah, Getting everyone's input on what stories we listen to is definitely something I think should happen and doing a cheaper release and a regular priced release such as say the non sale main range or the 4DAs might be something worth looking into.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 3:53:12 GMT
How many of us have the complete EDAs? They seem like an obvious choice for a listen-through. I haven't actually listened to the 8DAs and I would totally be onboard with doing them and maybe even incorporating the new short trip would be something we should do as well.
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Post by elkawho on Mar 4, 2016 4:08:17 GMT
Personally, a story a week (so around 4 a month), in groups of 4. This allows for trilogies, and their tie-ins, or for trilogies and a similar story, or a trilogy and a relevant story, or a box set, or half a season etc. And voting for the next theme once a new set starts. This way, we could have plenty of variations. For example: Set 1-Classic Early Stories. 1.1-Spare Parts. 1.2-The One Doctor. 1.3-The Fires of Vucan. 1.4-The Chimes of Midnight. Set 2-Sixie and Jamie. 2.1/2.2/2.3-The Land of Fiction Trilogy. 2.4-Nights Black Agents OR The Defectors. That works. I think we could also do a trilogy and the a Companion Chronicle for variety. Another idea is that we do The Listeners release for the first (or last, whenever) story of the month and then a story arc or 3 story set for the rest of the month. I don't mind listening to something I've already listened to. I do expect to listen to most things multiple times eventually. And sometimes I change my mind about a story on second listen, or realize something about it that I hadn't before. I've heard all the Dorians, some of them fairly recently, but I'm listening again as part of the listen-through. It really changes the experience knowing that you're going to be discussing it with other listeners.
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Post by omega on Mar 4, 2016 4:10:29 GMT
Themes like particular characters (companions, recurring characters, monsters etc), certain writers or trilogies might be a good idea. Smaller ranges like the Stage Plays would be fun to do, and wouldn't cost as much. How about Gallifrey or Cyberman? Gallifrey may be harder due to the CD only thing though. We don't have to cherry pick the ranges or releases some of us like, a group listen can expose hidden gems for some individuals. One person on here didn't find dark husband as bad as it's reputation said it would be, and as the Underrated thread can prove, one (wo)man's bad story is another (wo)man's highlight.
There's the Forge arc in the Project: Audios, with two out of three in the first 50. Sixth Doctor and Evelyn, Fifth Doctor, Peri and Erimem and Eighth Doctor and Charley are all doable from first 50 as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 5:29:58 GMT
With all the great ideas being thrown around I thought I would ask as part as you main comment what would be a some of the best things to do for the group listen through in your opinion.
I definitely think that doing the unbounds near the release of the Benny Box-Set would be a wonderful group listen through and they are very different stories that we are used to so to see everyone's talking about them would be great. I think that we should try a Companion Chronicle set or trilogy Such as the Sara Kingdom or Oliver Harper as those have quality oozing throughout the range and for the main range standalone trilogies would be the best such as 6 and Jaime, The 1963 trilogy, the first Flip and 6 trilogy, Colditz and the first Klien trilogy would work out to a month as well as the 5 and Turlough set would be good to
With the 8DAs and 4DAs, I have some concerns that with them usually being 8 episodes long that would either equal to two months in a row because if we stopped halfway through a season and continued 3 months later I think we would lose momentum and the overall atmosphere. Now the second way I can think of is that since they are one hour long episode that we coul do two a week which would equal what a main range story usually is, I saw people though that were thinking one episode a week so I am a bit weary about it.
Another thing is we do themes ( thanks toaau and jbmasta for suggesting the idea ) centred around certain things such as The Master or a Rob Shearmen marathon or even a Nyssa month which I think we should coordinate with billy2 on what episodes would work as a good tribute to his favourite companion.
Lastly, I think we should look at some of the lesser talked about ranges such as Cyberman, Dalek Empire, The Stage Plays, The Lost Stories and The Early Adventures as those could potentially be a new experience for a lot of people.
Guys, Thank you if you are still reading this as I know this is a huge info dump but I just wanted to get all my ideas out so we could all be on the same page. Thank you again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 6:49:53 GMT
Making a schedule in advance is totally something I was hoping would be done so hopefully no worries there and there will hopefully be a good mix between old and new, cheaper and a bit more expensive audios.
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Post by kimalysong on Mar 4, 2016 11:19:40 GMT
Sure why not
Though for me personally there is a lot of Doctor Who I skipped buying. I wouldn't mind going back and buying certain cheaper releases if they were part of a group listen though. But if it was like a $12.99 or even an $8.00 release a week that would get a bit much. But I suppose the beauty of group listens you don't have to join for every story anyways.
Anyways I kind of like the idea of Charley Pollard or Evelyn Smythe. Because early on these releases are only $2.99.
However something to keep in mind is that MR titles are 2 hr stories. The Dark Shadows and Dorian ones are much shorter. And you have new releases on top of group listens. So you are going to want to pace them out a bit.
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Post by acousticwolf on Mar 4, 2016 11:23:49 GMT
So a bit like the Listeners group then or a book club (only a bit less random)? Sounds fine to me, as long as they are spaced out enough . Cheers Tony
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Post by constonks on Mar 4, 2016 16:30:27 GMT
My favorite way to do various releases at once is what I call "Eight for Eight"s - just one release per Doctor in chronological order, with the exception of when I listened to 85/86 in the right order.
Might make a break from doing arcs/series?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 17:34:20 GMT
kimalysong and acousticwolf what do you guys think is the best way to pace them out. Thank you very much.
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Post by kimalysong on Mar 4, 2016 19:05:40 GMT
I think it will be easier to decide on a time frame once we agree on what stories we are listening to.
But I just thought of another idea since this is the year of the Master a listen through with stories featuring the character may also be fun. Just a random thought.
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Post by acousticwolf on Mar 4, 2016 20:42:56 GMT
I agree, I think decide on the type of stories (trilogy, series, arc, random) and then think about pacing as Main Range are generally 2 hours long, most series are 1 hour, trilogies could be 3-6, arcs could be 16 hours lol.
Certainly no more than weekly and probably biweekly (every 2 weeks) or monthly for me.
Cheers
Tony
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Post by elkawho on Mar 4, 2016 23:28:57 GMT
With all the great ideas being thrown around I thought I would ask as part as you main comment what would be a some of the best things to do for the group listen through in your opinion. I definitely think that doing the unbounds near the release of the Benny Box-Set would be a wonderful group listen through and they are very different stories that we are used to so to see everyone's talking about them would be great. I think that we should try a Companion Chronicle set or trilogy Such as the Sara Kingdom or Oliver Harper as those have quality oozing throughout the range and for the main range standalone trilogies would be the best such as 6 and Jaime, The 1963 trilogy, the first Flip and 6 trilogy, Colditz and the first Klien trilogy would work out to a month as well as the 5 and Turlough set would be good to With the 8DAs and 4DAs, I have some concerns that with them usually being 8 episodes long that would either equal to two months in a row because if we stopped halfway through a season and continued 3 months later I think we would lose momentum and the overall atmosphere. Now the second way I can think of is that since they are one hour long episode that we coul do two a week which would equal what a main range story usually is, I saw people though that were thinking one episode a week so I am a bit weary about it. Another thing is we do themes ( thanks toaau and jbmasta for suggesting the idea ) centred around certain things such as The Master or a Rob Shearmen marathon or even a Nyssa month which I think we should coordinate with billy2 on what episodes would work as a good tribute to his favourite companion. Lastly, I think we should look at some of the lesser talked about ranges such as Cyberman, Dalek Empire, The Stage Plays, The Lost Stories and The Early Adventures as those could potentially be a new experience for a lot of people. Guys, Thank you if you are still reading this as I know this is a huge info dump but I just wanted to get all my ideas out so we could all be on the same page. Thank you again. Am I being too indecisive to say all of the above (with one exception)? We could change it up. One month it could be a set of Unbounds, then the Klein trilogy, then the Sara Kingdom CC trilogy, then skip to Dalek Empire 1, and then do a Rob Shearman group listen. It would give really good variety to how we listen to them. I agree that the 8DA and 4DA might give us some trouble. They are tricky and more expensive (as a whole) then most of the other released we're talking about. Doing one season over 2 months may be the way to go, but I would want to wait a while before I did that. Although being the huge Lucie fan that I am, I'd be really keen on doing a group listen to those.
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