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Post by sherlock on Jul 1, 2019 17:44:24 GMT
The VisitationWhat a bizarre story. The plot was minimal and pacing so weird. As I was watching I was messaging a friend who is a fan, so figured I’d just share the highlights of that: {Spoiler} -‘Tegan randomly feels a bit unsettled by what happened in Kinda whilst doing her makeup, presumably having been totally fine until that point’
-‘We’ve hit the 11 minute make and already there’s been two incidents of a companion pointing at something shouting Doctor!’
-‘Oh come on did Adric just sprain his ankle’
-‘Oh he’s recovered already, so that was pointless’
-‘I do appreciate how utterly done the Doctor seems to be with Adric and Tegan’
-‘Cliffhanger’s a bit weird. “Oh no we are locked in a room”’
-‘The whole interrogation scene is basically designed to emphasis how irrelevant Tegan and Adric are, which was probably not intentional but is bloody hilarious anyway.’
-‘I love Peter Davison’s expressions when the villagers start marching on them. It just looks like the Doctor is so f****** done with all this.’
-‘The Doctor’s reaction to potential execution is “not again”. Is that a massively meta joke at all the near executions that have been cliffhangers over the course of the series?’
-‘I’m finding this enjoyable but probably not in the way it was intended’
-‘Hang on, why is Nyssa assembling the device in her bedroom?’
-‘I love how frustrated the Terileptle is with his slaves. Also how his costume so obviously prevents his shoulders moving. It’s a cool design aside from that fairly significant flaw’
-‘Adric even points how weird it is that Nyssa is building the device in her bedroom. Apparently she needs the space...implying the eighties control room was cluttered???’
-‘Nyssa just randomly kicked the thing she’s been building and called it stupid for no clear reason. It’s not the reason Adric got captured’
-‘“It’s not supposed to be an argument - it’s a statement!”-wow Eric Saward predicted modern political discourse’
-‘Nyssa’s still building this goddamn device. She’s been doing it for two episodes now.’
-‘Oh yay we get to see her testing it too, how thrilling.’
-‘You really do get the sense in this story that the Doctor and Tegan hate each other.’
-‘Conveniently the Android enters the TARDIS so Nyssa doesn’t have to move the device to destroy it. So anyway that’s the thrilling payoff to Nyssa’s entire plotline in this story. Nyssa doesn’t even seem vaguely pleased to have accomplished that.’
-‘So now we get a whole scene of Nyssa and Adric trying to fly the TARDIS, nevermind the actual plot’
-‘There’s a whole 7 minutes left to resolve the actual plot of the story now’
-‘How exactly the terileptles thought they could win a fight when they can barely move their arms and are outnumbered is anyone’s guess’
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 2:49:20 GMT
The VisitationWhat a bizarre story. The plot was minimal and pacing so weird. As I was watching I was messaging a friend who is a fan, so figured I’d just share the highlights of that: {Spoiler}-‘Tegan randomly feels a bit unsettled by what happened in Kinda whilst doing her makeup, presumably having been totally fine until that point’
-‘We’ve hit the 11 minute make and already there’s been two incidents of a companion pointing at something shouting Doctor!’
-‘Oh come on did Adric just sprain his ankle’
-‘Oh he’s recovered already, so that was pointless’
-‘I do appreciate how utterly done the Doctor seems to be with Adric and Tegan’
-‘Cliffhanger’s a bit weird. “Oh no we are locked in a room”’
-‘The whole interrogation scene is basically designed to emphasis how irrelevant Tegan and Adric are, which was probably not intentional but is bloody hilarious anyway.’
-‘I love Peter Davison’s expressions when the villagers start marching on them. It just looks like the Doctor is so f****** done with all this.’
-‘The Doctor’s reaction to potential execution is “not again”. Is that a massively meta joke at all the near executions that have been cliffhangers over the course of the series?’
-‘I’m finding this enjoyable but probably not in the way it was intended’
-‘Hang on, why is Nyssa assembling the device in her bedroom?’
-‘I love how frustrated the Terileptle is with his slaves. Also how his costume so obviously prevents his shoulders moving. It’s a cool design aside from that fairly significant flaw’
-‘Adric even points how weird it is that Nyssa is building the device in her bedroom. Apparently she needs the space...implying the eighties control room was cluttered???’
-‘Nyssa just randomly kicked the thing she’s been building and called it stupid for no clear reason. It’s not the reason Adric got captured’
-‘“It’s not supposed to be an argument - it’s a statement!”-wow Eric Saward predicted modern political discourse’
-‘Nyssa’s still building this goddamn device. She’s been doing it for two episodes now.’
-‘Oh yay we get to see her testing it too, how thrilling.’
-‘You really do get the sense in this story that the Doctor and Tegan hate each other.’
-‘Conveniently the Android enters the TARDIS so Nyssa doesn’t have to move the device to destroy it. So anyway that’s the thrilling payoff to Nyssa’s entire plotline in this story. Nyssa doesn’t even seem vaguely pleased to have accomplished that.’
-‘So now we get a whole scene of Nyssa and Adric trying to fly the TARDIS, nevermind the actual plot’
-‘There’s a whole 7 minutes left to resolve the actual plot of the story now’
-‘How exactly the terileptles thought they could win a fight when they can barely move their arms and are outnumbered is anyone’s guess’ Structurally, it's very Holmes Lite. I reckon it takes a lot after The Krotons with three very decent episodes, moving at a fair pace... and a third part where the story just slams to a halt for an act. Ironically, the story re-jigged into three episodes has as its possible cliffhangers: {Spoiler}1. In the cellar, Tegan is shot and the android focuses its attention on Mace and Adric. 2. The Doctor realises the Terileptil Leader intends genocide.
At the end, when Tegan's attacking one of the Terileptils with the shotgun, I remember a friend of mine crying: "Stop! Stop! He's already dead!"
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Post by aemiliapaula on Jul 2, 2019 21:42:26 GMT
Revelation of the Daleks
I forgot Clive Swift was in this. Requiescat in Pace. He usually plays such nice likeable characters, he was really creepy in this one. Well done.
I like the DJ character, how he talks and dresses to fit the time period of the music. He now reminds me of Benji.
Next: Trial of a Time Lord. The courtroom scenes are great. How many different insults can Colin come up with for the Valeyard's name?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 22:46:14 GMT
Revelation of the Daleks
I forgot Clive Swift was in this. Requiescat in Pace. He usually plays such nice likeable characters, he was really creepy in this one. Well done.I like the DJ character, how he talks and dresses to fit the time period of the music. He now reminds me of Benji. Next: Trial of a Time Lord. The courtroom scenes are great. How many different insults can Colin come up with for the Valeyard's name? Just as long as you didn't try and ask him about his Who work! He was just impossibly rude to Benjamin Cook for an interview in 2007, where he not only insulted Cook for not writing in shorthand, asked why he should answer any questions if DWM wasn't willing to pay money on top of his appearance fee for Voyage Of The Damned but dismissed DW as unimportant compared to other work he'd been in. This was when talking to Doctor Who Magazine of all things. He was perhaps expecting they'd ask questions about something else! I'd almost be inclined to say he was maybe having an off day but it's not the only story you'll hear about Swift being less than the most polite person. Put it this way - he was far more Hyacinth than Richard Bucket by all accouts! Gave Ben Cook a story to dine out on for years though, so there is that!
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Post by doctorkernow on Jul 3, 2019 18:35:10 GMT
Hello again.
With Dr Who still 6 months away. I am having a NuWho rewatch. All 155 episodes not including mini episodes. I am currently halfway through season two. I won't be commenting further on my rewatch as NuWho has been analysed to death.
It was weird watching the Eccleston season where they were so obviously finding their feet. I think the war survivor storyline worked well. I am enjoying this immensely.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 13:48:21 GMT
Logopolis.
It looked cold on that motorway lay-by. Only The Watcher, a white, shimmering, blurred ghost, looked like he wasn't shivering.
What a story this is, and not just in its own right. Say what you like about Christopher Hamilton, but he rose to the occasion of not only signing off series 18 - a series that had overseen some of the most significant changes in the show's history at that time - but also for signing off Big Tom. I love The brooding Fourth Doctor in this, his look of fear and sorrow when he first sees the Watcher on the other side of the motorway. Peter Capaldi's scathing "He's the top layer if you want to say a few words," in Inside the Dalek is superseded by Tom's "Well, a little of her," when recalling seeing the shrunken death-size corpse-doll of Tegan's Auntie Vanessa.
The Master is carefully hidden away until episode 3. Only heard as a chuckle in the TARDIS and The Cloister Room. Anthony Ainley was so good, it really annoyed me when Clayton bloody Hickman dismissed his incarnation so casually and arrogantly on one of the DVD extras somewhere (I forget which one, I didn't watch it twice).
And episode Three's cliffhanger! After centuries of avoiding each other's handshake, The Doctor and The Master finally agree to join forces. A truly significant moment and, even if we hadn't read of Tom's imminent departure in the papers, one which obviously heralded something big was about to happen.
Finally, the montage of the Doctor's friends and enemies as he regenerates has become common practice now, but has never been done better than here. Truly an era end. Absolutely love it all to pieces.
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Post by sherlock on Jul 6, 2019 21:27:27 GMT
The Daemons
Vintage Pertwee era stuff with all the UNIT family and the Master in attendance and a variety of vehicle based action scenes. The ending is a bit odd, Azal gets confused to death apparently.
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Post by number13 on Jul 7, 2019 11:49:40 GMT
The Three Doctors Way back when, this was my first sight of William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton and it's a story never to be forgotten. Yes, there's a serious story and a very good one, Time Lord history and a new legend in Omega with an immense performance from Stephen Thorne. And a script full of inventive ideas around anti-matter, black holes, singularity - the hottest topics in 'pop' science-fact writing at the time too.
But come on - it's really a Tenth Birthday party isn't it with a big slice of pantomime (in the best sense) - and I love it, the monsters made from orange jelly, the 'cake' for Omega with the Doctor's flute recorder as a candle to blow out a world, the glittery 'Aladdin's castle' and the glittery music, the Flame of Singularity which the Second Doctor even refers to as the 'magic lamp', just to make it clear what's going on. I'm sure everyone's highlight is the sparkling Pertwee/Troughton double act! And they are just perfect; every second of screen time together is a gem. And so is Nicholas Courtney; the Brig's as brave and determined as ever - light years out of his depth but soldiering on gallantly with some great one-liners, a straight face and militarily precise comic timing. 'I'm fairly sure that's Cromer'. Five jokes, rapid. And it's a great story for good old Benton too.
(For some reason the location filming scenes at the start of this story have always looked 'soft' compared with the rest, so don't judge the new blu-ray on those. The 'Revisitations 3' restoration was already excellent but the colour and detail here is another step up and the sound is very clear indeed - what a contrast it all is with my faithful VHS copy! And I highly recommend the delightful commentary, one of my top favourites - laugh with Katy Manning and Nicholas Courtney as they open a party bag of anecdotes and happy memories; when Katy provides voiceovers for the orange jelly monsters the joy is complete!)
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Post by doctorkernow on Jul 7, 2019 19:34:49 GMT
Hello again.
On the day of Jon Pertwee's centenary I'm watching episode 4 of a story I only had on audio and had not seen until January this year:- The Curse of Peladon.
The Jon Pertwee Files documentary on BBC Radio 4 Extra was superb and very moving. A true one off and such a character.
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Post by theotherjosh on Jul 8, 2019 13:48:29 GMT
Earthshock
This episode floored me when I first saw it. Like a lot of American fans of my generation, I watched Doctor Who on my local public television station. There were fan clubs even back then, but not in the small town where I lived. I experienced Doctor Who alone, so I didn't know where each episode fell in the larger run. I didn't think this would be anything special. The Doctor and companions encounter the monster of the week, there's a little bit of tension in which guest stars will live and which ones will die, but generally things end up pretty much as they started. Full Circle was the very first episode I ever saw, so I was even kindly disposed towards Adric.
It still holds up. Those closing credits. Heartbreaking.
Planet of the Spiders
Doctor Who has always been a product of its era. That's a feature, not a bug. Its longevity is in part attributable to its penchant for reinventing itself and incorporating popular trends. But, holy cow, guys, this episode is more 70s than the 70s. I thought the TARDIS was going to turn into a pet rock.
Tom Baker was my Doctor in my youth and I rarely saw anything prior to his run, so I never appreciated Pertwee's Doctor until later in life. He's overflowing with presence and that effortless charm that you either have or you don't. Happy birthday, Mister Pertwee!
Curse of Fenric
Possibly my favorite televised episode. Certainly my favorite of the Seventh Doctor's tenure. When he chants the names of past companions as a talisman against the Haemovores, I get chills. Every time.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jul 9, 2019 12:47:07 GMT
All classic stories
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 9, 2019 13:57:59 GMT
Just started on Frontier in Space. Nice to see the Doctor and Jo in action again. Cannot wait for meeting the Master.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 10, 2019 18:37:34 GMT
Continuing with Frontier in Space. I am really beginning to wonder why this does not rate higher on various review sites. I am quite enjoying myself. Especially liking Jo in this one, she really has learned to stand up to the Master, hasn't she? And so far, the Master is wonderfully understated. He is a man with a plan, but is keeping it close to his chest...
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Post by sherlock on Jul 16, 2019 14:08:12 GMT
Remembrance of the Daleks
More Legacy of Time prep, as I don’t own any Counter Measures audios
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Post by mark687 on Jul 18, 2019 20:21:16 GMT
3 Docs and Planet of the Daleks (Blu Ray plus Looking for Lennie)
Regards
mark687
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Post by drj on Jul 18, 2019 20:52:59 GMT
I love Michael Robbins in the Visitation! Wonderful to watch!
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Post by elkawho on Jul 20, 2019 1:03:19 GMT
This past Wednesday I watched The Ark with my Doctor Who viewing group. I have never seen this one before and had heard very little about it. I really enjoyed it. Yes, we all had a bit of fun with the costumes and effects, etc., but I thought it was a very well done story. And with some very good messaging as well.
(Loved the elephant on the set. I bet that was a fun day for the cast!)
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Post by frisby78 on Jul 22, 2019 22:27:07 GMT
Just watched the spin off WARTIME. By christ Levens acting is appalling in it.
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Post by melkur on Jul 22, 2019 23:20:19 GMT
Over the weekend, as I met Eric Saward on Thursday, I watched 'The Visitation before making a start on 'Resurrection Of The Daleks' (I'm currently watching part 3 before bed).
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Post by Hieronymus on Jul 23, 2019 15:34:29 GMT
The Leisure Hive - An oddball of a story. Its style and pace are completely unlike any previous story.
There are oddities in the pacing and structure of this story which I had not noticed in prior viewings, especially in the first two episodes.
I still think the shuttle landings might as well have been a view from inside a gas can as the nozzle is inserted. You really can't tell what is happening in those model shots.
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