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Post by doctorkernow on Sept 11, 2019 20:21:24 GMT
Hello again.
I am still working through all 155 episodes of NuWho. While watching Face the Raven, the door creaked open and one of our free-roaming bunnies stuck its head round the door and lolloped in.
So, it's the raven's day off...
Clara walks slowly away from the Doctor. "I must be brave," she repeats under her breath fighting the urge to run. Then she sees it. Her fate is unavoidable. Tortoiseshell, barely visible in the shadows. Nose twitching, it poddles towards her, trying to look sinister. Clara starts to giggle, then shoulders heaving, she throws her head back and roars with laughter. A voice rings out clearly in the night, "Mayor Me I did try and tell you that noone is going to face the rabbit with a straight face..."
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Post by number13 on Sept 11, 2019 20:54:36 GMT
Hello again. I am still working through all 155 episodes of NuWho. While watching Face the Raven, the door creaked open and one of our free-roaming bunnies stuck its head round the door and lolloped in. So, it's the raven's day off... Clara walks slowly away from the Doctor. "I must be brave," she repeats under her breath fighting the urge to run. Then she sees it. Her fate is unavoidable. Tortoiseshell, barely visible in the shadows. Nose twitching, it poddles towards her, trying to look sinister. Clara starts to giggle, then shoulders heaving, she throws her head back and roars with laughter. A voice rings out clearly in the night, "Mayor Me I did try and tell you that noone is going to face the rabbit with a straight face..." 'Face the Rabbit' could have worked, I've sort of seen it done before... "That rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide."
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Post by doctorkernow on Sept 11, 2019 22:31:53 GMT
Hello again.
Mayor Me just needs to hire a big bruiser rabbit from Watership Down.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 3:22:56 GMT
Hello again. Mayor Me just needs to hire a big bruiser rabbit from Watership Down. I'll call in our bunny from the Death Zone. He's been on loan to the Python boys for sometime.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 6:10:47 GMT
I loved how awful Rick James as Cotton was. "We'll all be done for..." delivered like he was totally nonplussed by the end of it all. Talk about finding the positives! Oh dear.... it's such a brilliant season for the first three stories - and I really enjoy 'The Time Monster' too, there I've said it! I think I said in another post somewhere, watching 'The Mutants' now it strikes me that if it had been made just a bit earlier during the HAVOC period, it would have turned out differently and far more excitingly - I imagine stunt sequences that sort of look as if they should be there, but aren't. (If that makes any sense at all.) And if it had been a four-parter, that would have helped a lot.
*slides in* I reckon that The Time Monster could've been a good basis for a film adaptation, hear me out, simply by taking a lot of what's told and showing it. Put the Doctor and Jo in the middle of the earthquake off Greece, visit the Atlantis recovering from the first reign of Kronos, show us a battle between TARDISes in the vortex, have UNIT fight warriors from throughout time in modern Athens. Go big.
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Post by number13 on Sept 12, 2019 10:59:29 GMT
Hello again. Mayor Me just needs to hire a big bruiser rabbit from Watership Down. I'll call in our bunny from the Death Zone. He's been on loan to the Python boys for sometime. The Raston Warrior Rabbit, made my day
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Post by number13 on Sept 12, 2019 11:08:57 GMT
Talk about finding the positives! Oh dear.... it's such a brilliant season for the first three stories - and I really enjoy 'The Time Monster' too, there I've said it! I think I said in another post somewhere, watching 'The Mutants' now it strikes me that if it had been made just a bit earlier during the HAVOC period, it would have turned out differently and far more excitingly - I imagine stunt sequences that sort of look as if they should be there, but aren't. (If that makes any sense at all.) And if it had been a four-parter, that would have helped a lot.
*slides in* I reckon that The Time Monster could've been a good basis for a film adaptation, hear me out, simply by taking a lot of what's told and showing it. Put the Doctor and Jo in the middle of the earthquake off Greece, visit the Atlantis recovering from the first reign of Kronos, show us a battle between TARDISes in the vortex, have UNIT fight warriors from throughout time in modern Athens. Go big. That's what I like about it, there's an idea a minute and it's never dull (except that odd 'divine intervention' ending is a let-down imo.) But as for the rest - timey-wimey UNIT story and myth-historical and The Master, it's great stuff imo. Oh for CGI and a Chronovore without trainers on!
When Season 9 gets the blu-ray treatment, this is the story I hope they'll use the CGI budget on. 'Day of the Daleks' has that brilliant SE already, 'The Curse of Peladon' and 'The Sea Devils' are outstanding as they are imo and 'The Mutants' is... 'The Mutants'. I'd like to see the Master's Atlantis Plan with effects to match the imagination of the story.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 12:04:36 GMT
*slides in* I reckon that The Time Monster could've been a good basis for a film adaptation, hear me out, simply by taking a lot of what's told and showing it. Put the Doctor and Jo in the middle of the earthquake off Greece, visit the Atlantis recovering from the first reign of Kronos, show us a battle between TARDISes in the vortex, have UNIT fight warriors from throughout time in modern Athens. Go big. That's what I like about it, there's an idea a minute and it's never dull (except that odd 'divine intervention' ending is a let-down imo.) But as for the rest - timey-wimey UNIT story and myth-historical and The Master, it's great stuff imo. Oh for CGI and a Chronovore without trainers on! When Season 9 gets the blu-ray treatment, this is the story I hope they'll use the CGI budget on. 'Day of the Daleks' has that brilliant SE already, 'The Curse of Peladon' and 'The Sea Devils' are outstanding as they are imo and 'The Mutants' is... 'The Mutants'. I'd like to see the Master's Atlantis Plan with effects to match the imagination of the story. Yeah, it'd be my pick for a Season 9 boxset as well. It could be told in four-parts, in retrospect, but it establishes quite a lot of how we view the time vortex today. I've a theory about the crystal that enslaves Kronos, actually, I think it's like one of the kontron crystals from Timelash. When normal spacetime is cut open through to the vortex, there's "oxidisation", so to speak. A form of barely self-aware rust that tethers the two dimensions together, capturing energy and projecting it back to its respective realm. The crystals can pick up temporal energy, store it, then -- with a little nudging -- project it back out (as in Timelash). When they grow to a high enough density, like say a reef, they can swallow up temporal fauna like the Chronovores. The vortex's equivalent of Venus flytraps. I don't mind it as a story, so much, but The Mutants is a bit of an odd duck. We have... Bob Baker and Dave Martin, the chaps who brought us The Claws of Axos and will bring us The Three Doctors, as writers -- Yes! Christopher Barry, the chap who did the original Daleks serial, as the director -- Yes! A fascinating story about alien ecology -- Yes! In six-parts -- Ah... I don't think there's quite enough going on to fill half-a-dozen episodes. It's fairly enjoyable in three. With Jo finding Sondergaard in the crystal cave and Varan being blown out into space as the cliffhangers, respectively. What I find a mystery is why did the Time Lords send the Doctor to Solos in the first place? To deliver the message pod, sure, but what's their stake in the proceedings? Why are the Solonians so important to them? I don't think that's ever addressed.
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Post by number13 on Sept 12, 2019 12:15:49 GMT
That's what I like about it, there's an idea a minute and it's never dull (except that odd 'divine intervention' ending is a let-down imo.) But as for the rest - timey-wimey UNIT story and myth-historical and The Master, it's great stuff imo. Oh for CGI and a Chronovore without trainers on! When Season 9 gets the blu-ray treatment, this is the story I hope they'll use the CGI budget on. 'Day of the Daleks' has that brilliant SE already, 'The Curse of Peladon' and 'The Sea Devils' are outstanding as they are imo and 'The Mutants' is... 'The Mutants'. I'd like to see the Master's Atlantis Plan with effects to match the imagination of the story. Yeah, it'd be my pick for a Season 9 boxset as well. It could be told in four-parts, in retrospect, but it establishes quite a lot of how we view the time vortex today. I've a theory about the crystal that enslaves Kronos, actually, I think it's like one of the kontron crystals from Timelash. When normal spacetime is cut open through to the vortex, there's "oxidisation", so to speak. A form of barely self-aware rust that tethers the two dimensions together, capturing energy and projecting it back to its respective realm. The crystals can pick up temporal energy, store it, then -- with a little nudging -- project it back out (as in Timelash). When they grow to a high enough density, like say a reef, they can swallow up temporal fauna like the Chronovores. The vortex's equivalent of Venus flytraps. I don't mind it as a story, so much, but The Mutants is a bit of an odd duck. We have... Bob Baker and Dave Martin, the chaps who brought us The Claws of Axos and will bring us The Three Doctors, as writers -- Yes! Christopher Barry, the chap who did the original Daleks serial, as the director -- Yes! A fascinating story about alien ecology -- Yes! In six-parts -- Ah... I don't think there's quite enough going on to fill half-a-dozen episodes. It's fairly enjoyable in three. With Jo finding Sondergaard in the crystal cave and Varan being blown out into space as the cliffhangers, respectively. What I find a mystery is why did the Time Lords send the Doctor to Solos in the first place? To deliver the message pod, sure, but what's their stake in the proceedings? Why are the Solonians so important to them? I don't think that's ever addressed.Off the top of my head - super-beings who owe you for past help might be very useful allies if you have a Time War to fight? (BF: sequel potential please note! )
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Post by Ela on Sept 12, 2019 16:51:27 GMT
Last Christmas, cause I need to test drive my new DVDs. Then I watched The Magician's Apprentice and The Witch's Familiar. I have to admit I still don't get these stories. They have some nice bits in them, but the story line seems very convoluted and inaccessible to me. I have to say, though, that I love Michelle Gomez' performance. She is a hoot.
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Post by polly on Sept 12, 2019 18:46:06 GMT
I'll slink back into the thread and say that having just watched it again, for my money The Time Monster is a pretty average story. I like that they were trying to go big for the season finale, and it does have a lot going for it, but the finished product just doesn't excite me. Six episodes should actually be justified for once given the amount of ideas thrown in but it still feels lethargic.
I was also kind of disappointed because there was an awful lot of talk about Chronos but the Master didn't do much with it until the end. I mean we got an aged grad student, baby Benton, and we played around with freeze frames a bit. Big whoop for the devourer of time. Gimme the weird stuff. The arrival of Chronos should have felt like the Time Lords turning up in War Games. Not a six foot pigeon on a wire.
The biggest appeal to me is that lovely Pertwee/Katy/Delgado dynamic and having fun with the UNIT boys.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 18:57:20 GMT
It's strange, but when watching the recent Series 11 of Doctor Who and thinking, "I can't imagine rushing back to watch many of these stories again," I have revisited them more than I did/do with Matt Smith's era (for example - no reflection on its quality, it's just the way things are). Not only that, but I am enjoying re-watching these stories more than once increasingly enjoyable. Tonight, randomly, The Ghost Monument.
Whilst I still think the story is the least brilliant thing about it (I'm not sure if we were in the 1970s/80s, such a visually-reliant piece would have got to air), it is still pretty good. I love everything else about it. The performances and characters are spot on, the location filming is stunning throughout - as are the effects. The 'ribbon creatures', if made more prominent, could have been talked about positively a lot more than they are. And the final reveal of The TARDIS, and The Doctor's emotional reaction to it, is wonderful.
A massively underrated story, I now think. At this rate, maybe I'll even re-watch The Tsuranga Conundrum. Maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 20:27:31 GMT
I'll call in our bunny from the Death Zone. He's been on loan to the Python boys for sometime. The Raston Warrior Rabbit, made my day "Its fuzzy widdle ears can detect movement, any movement and they move like lightning." So I quote my sources: that comes from an old, ooooold video called The Five Doctors Reloaded, by a chap called Farmageddon. It's been some years, but it may still be floating around the internet, I'm not sure. It's strange, but when watching the recent Series 11 of Doctor Who and thinking, "I can't imagine rushing back to watch many of these stories again," I have revisited them more than I did/do with Matt Smith's era (for example - no reflection on its quality, it's just the way things are). Not only that, but I am enjoying re-watching these stories more than once increasingly enjoyable. Tonight, randomly, The Ghost Monument. Whilst I still think the story is the least brilliant thing about it (I'm not sure if we were in the 1970s/80s, such a visually-reliant piece would have got to air), it is still pretty good. I love everything else about it. The performances and characters are spot on, the location filming is stunning throughout - as are the effects. The 'ribbon creatures', if made more prominent, could have been talked about positively a lot more than they are. And the final reveal of The TARDIS, and The Doctor's emotional reaction to it, is wonderful. A massively underrated story, I now think. At this rate, maybe I'll even re-watch The Tsuranga Conundrum. Maybe.
I remember being struck by how Terry Nation the whole set-up was. A bit bare-bones, plot-wise, but enormously fun. A game of cat and mouse. I can just see the Doctor and company rocking up with their travel dials for another trial on Marinus. I also liked her initial confrontation with Epzo, that minute show of aikido against him when he threatens her. She could harm him, quite easily, but that's not her way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 21:04:02 GMT
The Raston Warrior Rabbit, made my day "Its fuzzy widdle ears can detect movement, any movement and they move like lightning." So I quote my sources: that comes from an old, ooooold video called The Five Doctors Reloaded, by a chap called Farmageddon. It's been some years, but it may still be floating around the internet, I'm not sure. It's strange, but when watching the recent Series 11 of Doctor Who and thinking, "I can't imagine rushing back to watch many of these stories again," I have revisited them more than I did/do with Matt Smith's era (for example - no reflection on its quality, it's just the way things are). Not only that, but I am enjoying re-watching these stories more than once increasingly enjoyable. Tonight, randomly, The Ghost Monument. Whilst I still think the story is the least brilliant thing about it (I'm not sure if we were in the 1970s/80s, such a visually-reliant piece would have got to air), it is still pretty good. I love everything else about it. The performances and characters are spot on, the location filming is stunning throughout - as are the effects. The 'ribbon creatures', if made more prominent, could have been talked about positively a lot more than they are. And the final reveal of The TARDIS, and The Doctor's emotional reaction to it, is wonderful. A massively underrated story, I now think. At this rate, maybe I'll even re-watch The Tsuranga Conundrum. Maybe.
I remember being struck by how Terry Nation the whole set-up was. A bit bare-bones, plot-wise, but enormously fun. A game of cat and mouse. I can just see the Doctor and company rocking up with their travel dials for another trial on Marinus. I also liked her initial confrontation with Epzo, that minute show of aikido against him when he threatens her. She could harm him, quite easily, but that's not her way. The Five Doctors Reloaded is no longer on Youtube, but.. www.dailymotion.com/video/x5s164ewww.dailymotion.com/video/x5s17rvGloriously silly... 😁😁
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Post by sherlock on Sept 12, 2019 21:13:17 GMT
Feeling like revisiting Series 11 as I’ve haven’t seen rewatched it at all-but first rewatched World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls and Twice Upon a Time as I realised I hadn’t seen any of them since 2017 (!).
World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls doesn’t put a foot wrong. The characterisation of the Doctor is magnificent, Bill’s storyline is harrowing, the Masters are really well done (a part of me really hopes this stays as the character’s end, cos it’s just so fitting) and the Cybermen are properly nasty. There’s loads of brilliant moments too such as the brutal subversion of the Doctor’s usual speech to win over supporting characters where Bill gets shot anyway, the Doctor’s final speech to the Masters and Nardole’s departure. Just great stuff.
Twice Upon a Time feels a bit more messy. There’s some nice themes going on, references to fairytales and miracles suggesting the Doctor’s effectively become disillusioned with his own fairytale and needs encouragement to keep going, but it’s buried under quite pointless filler such as visiting Rusty and the First Doctor’s sexism. Honestly this story feels like it could have been about half it’s length, and would probably be more effective if it was. As it is, it’s a fine epilogue for Capaldi’s tenure and Moffat’s era and Capaldi gives his all to the performance.
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Post by sherlock on Sept 13, 2019 11:24:56 GMT
The Woman Who Fell To Earth
A solid start for Chibnall and Whittaker’s tenure. The Doctor is introduced well, the companions get decent material and Tim Shaw works as a simple yet effective threat for them.
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Post by number13 on Sept 13, 2019 11:57:14 GMT
Now that's why I love this forum! Brilliant, cheers!
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Post by Ela on Sept 13, 2019 17:32:07 GMT
Last night I watched Under The Lake/Before The Flood, as I continue to check out my new DVDs.
Very weird set of stories.
I'm remembering now how totally odd this season was.
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Post by Hieronymus on Sept 13, 2019 17:59:53 GMT
Kinda over the next couple of days, including all the Blu-Ray extras, as I continue a steady view through the 5th Doctor's first season on Blu-Ray.
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Post by Ela on Sept 13, 2019 22:43:00 GMT
Watched The Witchfinders this afternoon. Yeah, I still haven't finished series 11, for a variety of reasons. Nice little pseudohistorical.
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