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Post by mark687 on Mar 20, 2016 22:14:20 GMT
You should give the audios a try Mark. From what I understand the early eps of the TV series are harder for people to get into. I think it's the later eps when Barnabas joins that made the series famous (although as someone who likes old TV and movies I think I would enjoy the early eps) But as someone who only listens to the audio (for now) it's up to par with Big Finish's usual excellence. I honestly don't get the "start with Barnabas" crew. It seems to me if you do that you would never have the affection for David, Liz, Roger et al as they become much more minor characters once Barnbas shows up. For me you get to know the Collins family best in those early episodes. The pace is meandering, yes, but that's the case throughout the show. Even the Adam arc has Julia, Barnabas, Nicolas and Angeique front and centre yet is every bit as meandering as "the silver pen" or "Burke's revenge" despite having those fan faves and plenty of horror elements. I was hooked from episode 1 and to this day have more affection for the early years than famed arcs like "1897" or "1795". Mark, how do you have zero interest yet go to the Collinsport Historical Society page for news? I think your quest for the scoop may be an addiction. Exactly the opening episodes haven't grabbed me but I don't see a point of starting a series halfway though.
As to the link it was on BF's FB Page David so I just copied it here. No problem Me
Regards
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Post by kimalysong on Mar 20, 2016 22:20:48 GMT
You should give the audios a try Mark. From what I understand the early eps of the TV series are harder for people to get into. I think it's the later eps when Barnabas joins that made the series famous (although as someone who likes old TV and movies I think I would enjoy the early eps) But as someone who only listens to the audio (for now) it's up to par with Big Finish's usual excellence. I honestly don't get the "start with Barnabas" crew. It seems to me if you do that you would never have the affection for David, Liz, Roger et al as they become much more minor characters once Barnbas shows up. For me you get to know the Collins family best in those early episodes. The pace is meandering, yes, but that's the case throughout the show. Even the Adam arc has Julia, Barnabas, Nicolas and Angeique front and centre yet is every bit as meandering as "the silver pen" or "Burke's revenge" despite having those fan faves and plenty of horror elements. I was hooked from episode 1 and to this day have more affection for the early years than famed arcs like "1897" or "1795". Mark, how do you have zero interest yet go to the Collinsport Historical Society page for news? I think your quest for the scoop may be an addiction. I am just saying those are the eps that made the series famous. Besides American soaps are designed to start from anywhere technically. If I wanted to get into the TV series my only choice if I didn't want to buy the DVDs (which sadly I don't) would be to start at Barnabas since the series is only available digitally from that point. If people have trouble getting into the early eps I don't see how it is wrong to recommend maybe trying later eps first and then going back to the early eps later if they wanted to. Some people are not used to older TV which is slower than modern TV. Although I suppose Classic Who may be slow for some as well , And also you can listen and enjoy the audios without watching the TV series. I am proof of that. Although it's not that I dont want to I just don't have the time for a TV series that massive.
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Post by omega on Mar 20, 2016 22:50:29 GMT
IIRC the first four full casts form a set - so you'll be leaving yourself hanging after just three of them... So does the 4th one not end on a cliffhanger? I didn't get it because honestly I didn't want to have to get the next one after that which is CD only. That's the only reason I didn't buy it. But if you say there is a type of conclusion I'll get that one too. The Legend Reborn is a documentary release about the making of those first four stories, the story in The Rage Beneath continues in Kingdom of the Dead. Legend Reborn is the only Dark Shadows release that's CD exclusive.
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Post by kimalysong on Mar 20, 2016 22:55:57 GMT
The Legend Reborn is a documentary release about the making of those first four stories, the story in The Rage Beneath continues in Kingdom of the Dead. Legend Reborn is the only Dark Shadows release that's CD exclusive. Thank you very much for the clarification I also purchased 1.4 I may eventually get Kingdom of the Dead but that will have to be another time. I think I bought enough Dark Shadows to keep my busy for awhile.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Mar 20, 2016 23:06:15 GMT
I only started watching the series last month and i use Hulu. They start with episode 210 so I missed the early episodes but not by choice. I have the vaguest of childhood memories of those pre-Barnabas episodes but have a crystal clear memory of that first episode with him. It is in fact one of my earliest memories from my childhood. At age 4 it became must see TV for me. I think that the show really switched gears and became something completely different to the point where it was almost a brand new show. I can get how people divide the show up like that as far as watching it is concerned.
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Post by omega on Mar 20, 2016 23:19:54 GMT
The Legend Reborn is a documentary release about the making of those first four stories, the story in The Rage Beneath continues in Kingdom of the Dead. Legend Reborn is the only Dark Shadows release that's CD exclusive. Thank you very much for the clarification I also purchased 1.4 I may eventually get Kingdom of the Dead but that will have to be another time. I think I bought enough Dark Shadows to keep my busy for awhile. Just hope you don't wait four years to get Kingdom of the Dead (the amount of time between the release of that and The Rage Beneath) The first four stories are each one hour stand-alone narratives while Kingdom of the Dead is one story told over four one hour CDs, with cliffhangers at the end of each disc. It ends on a loose cliffhanger that gets picked up in Bloodlust, but it's more of an "And the adventure continues" ending than one that needs immediate resolution.
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Post by bobod on Mar 21, 2016 0:59:52 GMT
Have you heard any of these audios, Mark? Can we encourage you? No its never appealed . I've tried to watch the show twice can't past the first few EPS.
Regards
mark687
I have to admit then I do find it a bit odd then how much you post in this section if Dark Shadows itself doesn't interest you.
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Post by bobod on Mar 21, 2016 1:01:21 GMT
You should give the audios a try Mark. From what I understand the early eps of the TV series are harder for people to get into. I think it's the later eps when Barnabas joins that made the series famous (although as someone who likes old TV and movies I think I would enjoy the early eps) But as someone who only listens to the audio (for now) it's up to par with Big Finish's usual excellence. I honestly don't get the "start with Barnabas" crew. It seems to me if you do that you would never have the affection for David, Liz, Roger et al as they become much more minor characters once Barnbas shows up. For me you get to know the Collins family best in those early episodes. The pace is meandering, yes, but that's the case throughout the show. Even the Adam arc has Julia, Barnabas, Nicolas and Angeique front and centre yet is every bit as meandering as "the silver pen" or "Burke's revenge" despite having those fan faves and plenty of horror elements. I was hooked from episode 1 and to this day have more affection for the early years than famed arcs like "1897" or "1795". Mark, how do you have zero interest yet go to the Collinsport Historical Society page for news? I think your quest for the scoop may be an addiction. I'm the same, at times it was slow going but I can't imagine doing the show any other way. I watched episode one and I've never watched an episode other than the next one. I've never even backtracked.
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Post by bobod on Mar 21, 2016 1:02:06 GMT
So does the 4th one not end on a cliffhanger? I didn't get it because honestly I didn't want to have to get the next one after that which is CD only. That's the only reason I didn't buy it. But if you say there is a type of conclusion I'll get that one too. The Legend Reborn is a documentary release about the making of those first four stories, the story in The Rage Beneath continues in Kingdom of the Dead. Legend Reborn is the only Dark Shadows release that's CD exclusive. Other than Angelique's Descent.
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Post by bobod on Mar 21, 2016 1:03:21 GMT
I only started watching the series last month and i use Hulu. They start with episode 210 so I missed the early episodes but not by choice. I have the vaguest of childhood memories of those pre-Barnabas episodes but have a crystal clear memory of that first episode with him. It is in fact one of my earliest memories from my childhood. At age 4 it became must see TV for me. I think that the show really switched gears and became something completely different to the point where it was almost a brand new show. I can get how people divide the show up like that as far as watching it is concerned. Well it did but it wasn't the first time. It also changed gears quite drastically when Laura Collins arrived.
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Post by omega on Mar 21, 2016 1:10:05 GMT
The Legend Reborn is a documentary release about the making of those first four stories, the story in The Rage Beneath continues in Kingdom of the Dead. Legend Reborn is the only Dark Shadows release that's CD exclusive. Other than Angelique's Descent. Thanks for the reminder. I purchased the CDs in the sale. How come that and The Legend Reborn aren't also available as downloads? Do the publishers of the original novel have some sway or does Lara Parker own all the rights for the content of the novel? She's been fairly active when it comes to original novels for Dark Shadows, with this, Wolf Moon Rising, The Salem Branch and the upcoming Heiress of Collinwood as well as the forward in Dreams of the Dark.
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Post by jason on Mar 21, 2016 1:29:49 GMT
I'm watching all the early episodes 'now', and I put 'now' in quotes because it's slow going. Not because of the quality of the show, more my schedule and moods.
I'm enjoying it. Burke is cool.
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Post by Trace on Mar 21, 2016 1:34:57 GMT
I did not see DS from the beginning the first time through. I actually started watching when it was rerun on the SciFi Channel in the 90s, around the time that Barnabas decides to make someone into his Josette (and we know how THAT turned out!) However, had the early episodes been available to me at the time, I would dfinitely start at the beginning.
Kim, I hope that someday you decide to take the plunge with the DVDs... I know that at present it seems like too much of a time commitment to you. It just IS such a wonderful experience, and makes the audio continuation that much richer. It's nice that they've made the audios accessible to newcomers in the meantime. And for now, I will continue to enjoy our mutual love for and interaction about audio DS, and The Confessions of Dorian Gray!
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Post by kimalysong on Mar 21, 2016 1:52:24 GMT
I did not see DS from the beginning the first time through. I actually started watching when it was rerun on the SciFi Channel in the 90s, around the time that Barnabas decides to make someone into his Josette (and we know how THAT turned out!) However, had the early episodes been available to me at the time, I would dfinitely start at the beginning. Kim, I hope that someday you decide to take the plunge with the DVDs... I know that at present it seems like too much if a time commitment to you. It just IS such a wonderful experience, and makes the audio continuation that much richer. It's nice that they've made the audios accessible to newcomers in the meantime. And for now, I will continue to enjoy our mutual love for and interaction about audio DS, and The Confessions of Dorian Gray! Well I definitely may watch the TV series one day. I just don't have the time at the moment. And if I do start it will be digital so that means the Barnabas arc since that is the only choice I have. Doesn't mean I would rule out ever getting the DVDs to watch the whole thing. I just wouldn't start that way. Lack of money, space, and time all factor in definitely not lack of interest.
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Post by barnabaslives on Mar 21, 2016 4:50:01 GMT
I think I saw some of the later story-arcs as many as 4 times before I finally got to see the first 200 episodes (other than one rented VHS where I got just enough of Laura to know that things were spooky before Barnabas arrived). I don't think it dampened my appreciation for the earliest episodes any, I think it was a great series even before it made a full commitment to supernatural themes personally.
Other than that, I think that any part of the OS that seems to drag out can depend on all kinds of things, how you feel about the show and the characters and so forth. Being that I'm most fond of Good-Guy Barnabas, I think it's probably some of the more dramatic episodes where he's not on his best behavior that can seem to drag out the worst for me.
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Post by omega on Mar 21, 2016 4:56:39 GMT
I want to watch the TV episodes, but YouTube only gets me so far and the Coffin complete series costs lots of money that I don't have. It's probably a good thing I don't have the DVDs, as I'd be watching them at a very unhealthy rate.
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Post by fingersmash on Mar 21, 2016 5:03:15 GMT
You can really hear my wallet trying to find a bridge to jump off right now. I took the leap and bought the full cast bundle (the math just added to an amazing deal) and Bloodlust (from everyone raving about it). I'm gonna have some good listening for a while. Good thing payday is this week.
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Post by omega on Mar 21, 2016 5:06:22 GMT
You can really hear my wallet trying to find a bridge to jump off right now. I took the leap and bought the full cast bundle (the math just added to an amazing deal) and Bloodlust (from everyone raving about it). I'm gonna have some good listening for a while. Good thing payday is this week. Time Ladies and Gentlelords, we have our new Widow. Be careful, the rocks at the bottom are sharp. Many a Collinwood lady has fallen to her death there.
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Post by mark687 on Mar 21, 2016 10:38:39 GMT
No its never appealed . I've tried to watch the show twice can't past the first few EPS.
Regards
mark687
I have to admit then I do find it a bit odd then how much you post in this section if Dark Shadows itself doesn't interest you. I thought I was being community spirited by letting people know about news and developments across BF Ranges regardless of my personal interest in them, if people would like me to stop they only have to ask!
Kind Regards
mark687
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Post by barnabaslives on Mar 21, 2016 12:19:37 GMT
Your announcements are much appreciated here, Mark. Methinxt that rascal bobod might have been trying to lure you into professing a fondness for Dark Shadows that you may or may not actually have, while the sale was on? No worries, you'll become one of us sooner or later anyway. They all do.
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