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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 7:17:22 GMT
Sorry everyone, genuinely didn't mean to cause any offence. Brians- my use of the word "suffers" was ill-judged. Apologies. No offence taken mate, I'm glad you raised the topic for debate. it was a well meant thing for you to do, and I take it as such.
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Post by jasonward on Mar 25, 2016 13:01:22 GMT
I need time to process this.
I find the use, none use of the label a source of dissonance.
For example, my mum suffered from what is now called Post Natal Depression (in the UK, in the US it has another name I don't recall), except she didn't, back then no such label existed, so her condition was unrecognised and she received no treatment or help.
Before the label "Post Natal Depression" existed, my mum was just a bad mother, or lazy, or whatever, but not someone that needed help.
So whilst I understand and appreciate what has been said about the label "autism" it seems in conflict with the ability of labels allowing us to think and therefore act in new ways not open to us without the label. But then this could be because some of this is new to me and I need time to think and reconcile the ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 17:45:56 GMT
I need time to process this. I find the use, none use of the label a source of dissonance. For example, my mum suffered from what is now called Post Natal Depression (in the UK, in the US it has another name I don't recall), except she didn't, back then no such label existed, so her condition was unrecognised and she received no treatment or help. Before the label "Post Natal Depression" existed, my mum was just a bad mother, or lazy, or whatever, but not someone that needed help. So whilst I understand and appreciate what has been said about the label "autism" it seems in conflict with the ability of labels allowing us to think and therefore act in new ways not open to us without the label. But then this could be because some of this is new to me and I need time to think and reconcile the ideas. I fully agree with you, the receiving of a diagnosis is incredibly helpful, often for no better reason than being able to give a name to what's affecting you. The thing about Autism is that it's a spectrum, not a polar condition. it isn't something you either have or don't have. This is why sometimes the label becomes a bit unhelpful, it polarises peoples expectations. So I'm careful with the labels I use. I say my son is "on the Aspergers spectrum". This helps me and others because it allows us to understand him better and learn how to treat him in ways to help him act normally, and it minimses the more extreme assumptions people may make if I use a label like "he suffers from Aspergers" or even just "he has Aspergers".
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Post by elkawho on Mar 27, 2016 14:37:58 GMT
I also agree with you regarding labels and their usefulness. My son has an undiagnosed learning disability. His testing results definitely show a problem, but they are unique. He does not fall into the right boxes for any known learning disabilities, so he has not officially been diagnosed. Without a diagnosis, he can't get something in American schools called an IEP. And because he doesn't have an IEP, I can't get him certain services. He does have some other accommodations, but I think his teachers think I'm just crazy. And they think that he's just lazy.
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