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Post by Digi on Mar 26, 2016 0:09:42 GMT
With this one being set midway through Evelyn's adventures with Sixie, featuring a cliffhanger ending, and the passing of Maggie Stables--how do you all opt to treat this one? The Wikipedia entry (I know) on it suggests there was some spat between BBCi and BF around this one, leading to Gary Russell suggesting maybe it shouldn't be counted as part of the audio canon, but I'm not sure whether to accept that as gospel or not.
Certainly it would make it easier when going through Sixie's adventures to simply discount this one, but I'm curious how you approach this one.
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Post by mark687 on Mar 26, 2016 0:16:49 GMT
With this one being set midway through Evelyn's adventures with Sixie, featuring a cliffhanger ending, and the passing of Maggie Stables--how do you all opt to treat this one? The Wikipedia entry (I know) on it suggests there was some spat between BBCi and BF around this one, leading to Gary Russell suggesting maybe it shouldn't be counted as part of the audio canon, but I'm not sure whether to accept that as gospel or not. Certainly it would make it easier when going through Sixie's adventures to simply discount this one, but I'm curious how you approach this one. I count the story as cannon but ignore the twist especially now the twist will sadly never be resolved.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 0:17:34 GMT
I'd say yes because otherwise references to the blue coat in Project: Lazarus and the like seems to come right out of nowhere. Flip Flip ends in a very similar manner where there doesn't appear to be any conclusive ending (except perhaps at the very beginning).
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Post by newt5996 on Mar 26, 2016 0:19:04 GMT
In my personal canon, and as in the novel State of Change, the TARDIS can cure people if they change so it heals Evelyn at the end of Real Time.
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Post by constonks on Mar 26, 2016 1:26:45 GMT
I honestly don't see why not. Nothing really clashes with any other stories. We just didn't get to see the resolution (and probably never will). Maybe one day Gary Russell can give it the Shakedown novelisation treatment and add an ending to it. Pretty much the only officially-licensed things I don't count as Mainstream Universe Canon are Death Comes to Time, A Fix With Sontarans, Dimensions in Time and some of the Polystyle stuff. DCTT because it's basically a finale to the classic series and avoids everything else (just listened to it last night and loved it). AFWS and DIT are nightmares, both in- and out-of-universe and the Polystyle stuff is canon in the Land of Fiction IMO. Although I have to agree with Digi: Certainly it would make it easier when going through Sixie's adventures to simply discount this one(...) Or at least I wouldn't recommend Real Time to anyone without first letting them know that it has No Ending. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 12:32:16 GMT
Real Time counts as far as I m concerned, it was a great story and the endng is fine... if people want to say it's part of an alternative timeline or such, that's okay too. It doesn't make the story any less enjoyable.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 2:22:46 GMT
I really enjoyed it back in the day - it's VERY much a Wilderness years story with some very strong scenes which Big Finish wouldn't do nowadays (so much that the original broadcast had a disclaimer for the later episodes).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 10:23:13 GMT
I really enjoyed it back in the day - it's VERY much a Wilderness years story with some very strong scenes which Big Finish wouldn't do nowadays (so much that the original broadcast had a disclaimer for the later episodes). It's got to be one of the best presentations of cybernisation I've seen, bested only by what Steve Lyons was able to do in Killing Ground. Everyone really succeeded in making the Cybermen sincerely horrific. |
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Post by constonks on Mar 29, 2016 2:15:08 GMT
I really enjoyed it back in the day - it's VERY much a Wilderness years story with some very strong scenes which Big Finish wouldn't do nowadays (so much that the original broadcast had a disclaimer for the later episodes). It's got to be one of the best presentations of cybernisation I've seen, bested only by what Steve Lyons was able to do in Killing Ground. Everyone really succeeded in making the Cybermen sincerely horrific. And Cybermen are done so poorly so often. It's great when they're done right. |
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Post by mrperson on Mar 30, 2016 13:30:17 GMT
I don't recall the ending or the "no ending", but I do recall liking it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2016 14:44:46 GMT
I don't recall the ending or the "no ending", but I do recall liking it. No, I don't either, I'm going to have to rewatch it now, I'm intrigued. |
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Post by gregm on Mar 30, 2016 22:24:15 GMT
Yea. I dislike pretending stories that were made "never happened". They did!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 5:18:12 GMT
Relistening to it again, I think we see the ending to the whole saga in the first five minutes when The Doctor enters the Chronosphere to change history . It's just not immediately obvious until the end. |
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