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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 2, 2016 8:57:33 GMT
Are there any archival recordings of Nicholas Courtney they could use? That would be one way they could do it. I've often thought of trying to edit in archival recordings into some of the companion chronicles, especially for Jon and Nick. Much of their dialogue is generic (or deliberately calls back to TV dialogue). If JJ Abrams can do it in Star Wars, and Moffat in DOTD, then why not It would be a better option than recasting him. I think all you need is a few generic pieces of dialogue like you suggest for it anyway; the Brigadier doesn't need a huge influence in the story.
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Post by dasmaniac on Apr 5, 2016 1:46:56 GMT
So what writers would people like to write a Third Doctor story? Honestly I would really love Philip Hinchcliffe to contribute a story idea. I really want to know how he'd approach the Third Doctor.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 5:38:15 GMT
So what writers would people like to write a Third Doctor story? Honestly I would really love Philip Hinchcliffe to contribute a story idea. I really want to know how he'd approach the Third Doctor. Not if it doubles the boxset price though
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Post by omega on Apr 5, 2016 5:52:40 GMT
Are there any archival recordings of Nicholas Courtney they could use? That would be one way they could do it. I've often thought of trying to edit in archival recordings into some of the companion chronicles, especially for Jon and Nick. Much of their dialogue is generic (or deliberately calls back to TV dialogue). If JJ Abrams can do it in Star Wars, and Moffat in DOTD, then why not The Dark Shadows audios have a couple of instances where audio from the original episodes was used in the story. Kingdom of the Dead has a few clips and ...and Red all Over uses various clips to allow a character whose actor is no longer with us to hold up part of a conversation.
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Post by bobod on Apr 5, 2016 8:16:54 GMT
I've often thought of trying to edit in archival recordings into some of the companion chronicles, especially for Jon and Nick. Much of their dialogue is generic (or deliberately calls back to TV dialogue). If JJ Abrams can do it in Star Wars, and Moffat in DOTD, then why not The Dark Shadows audios have a couple of instances where audio from the original episodes was used in the story. Kingdom of the Dead has a few clips and ...and Red all Over uses various clips to allow a character whose actor is no longer with us to hold up part of a conversation. I forget what might be in Kingdom of the Dead. Joe and Davy have spoken about how difficult (but worth it) the ...And Red All Over conversation was. Finding clips. Finding clean clips without incidental music on them. And then due to TV quality, you need to put the reused lines over a telephone (or such like). So it's a lot trickier than I think first appears.
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Post by omega on Apr 5, 2016 8:41:29 GMT
The Dark Shadows audios have a couple of instances where audio from the original episodes was used in the story. Kingdom of the Dead has a few clips and ...and Red all Over uses various clips to allow a character whose actor is no longer with us to hold up part of a conversation. I forget what might be in Kingdom of the Dead. Joe and Davy have spoken about how difficult (but worth it) the ...And Red All Over conversation was. Finding clips. Finding clean clips without incidental music on them. And then due to TV quality, you need to put the reused lines over a telephone (or such like). So it's a lot trickier than I think first appears.
Kingdom of the Dead spoilers: {Spoiler} Its for the sequence in Part Four when Seraph gives Maggie the knowledge of the supernatural that she's been conditioned to forget in the TV show. One of the clips is someone, Maggie I think, saying "You'll do it for me Barnabas, drink my blood until there's none left". Other lines include Angelique saying "I am a witch" and Quentin saying "It is a portrait of me. It was enchanted with powerful magic".
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Post by bobod on Apr 5, 2016 9:22:55 GMT
No memory of that whatsoever. I've only heard it once.
Thanks.
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Post by omega on Apr 5, 2016 9:46:18 GMT
No memory of that whatsoever. I've only heard it once. Thanks. It's about half an hour into Part Four, if you want the time.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 5, 2016 10:55:56 GMT
So what writers would people like to write a Third Doctor story? Anthony Horowitz would be cool if Big Finish could entice him to write an audio for them.
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Post by bobod on Apr 5, 2016 11:34:35 GMT
I still only associate him with Crime Traveller.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 11:44:11 GMT
I wonder if we'll see The Brigader will be out of action - perhaps Alistair steps out of line with White Hall during the course of a story - and we'll someone step in - someone who disrupts the UNIT family in a BIG way and is less tolerant and suspicious of The Doctor.
It would be nice way to create a new period within the Third Doctor's era and still pay homage to The Brigader's legacy.
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Post by icecreamdf on Apr 5, 2016 15:44:08 GMT
Are there any archival recordings of Nicholas Courtney they could use? That would be one way they could do it. I've often thought of trying to edit in archival recordings into some of the companion chronicles, especially for Jon and Nick. Much of their dialogue is generic (or deliberately calls back to TV dialogue). If JJ Abrams can do it in Star Wars, and Moffat in DOTD, then why not The problem with that is that the Brigadier can only have generic dialogue. To really get him involved in a new story, they would have to recast him.
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Post by dastari on Apr 5, 2016 17:42:02 GMT
While I would love to see a "the other guys" story in the third Doctor range with Jo, Mike, and Benton (if they can get him) having to handle some alien threat while the Doctor and the Brig are away in Geneva or something, I think that really they'll have to recast the Brigadier. He's such a presence in the Third Doctor era that to have him constantly sidelined when they're on Earth makes no sense. Maybe one or two more stories like that will work, but no more than that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 17:42:44 GMT
I've often thought of trying to edit in archival recordings into some of the companion chronicles, especially for Jon and Nick. Much of their dialogue is generic (or deliberately calls back to TV dialogue). If JJ Abrams can do it in Star Wars, and Moffat in DOTD, then why not The problem with that is that the Brigadier can only have generic dialogue. To really get him involved in a new story, they would have to recast him. yes, but for passing mention like in the third doctor adventures it would work. Personally I'm in favour of recasting for any actor who is no longer with us. While I can understand people who feel strongly otherwise, they don't have to buy those products which include recast roles, just like I assume they refuse to watch the Five Doctors or series 2 of Blakes 7.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 19:43:44 GMT
The problem with that is that the Brigadier can only have generic dialogue. To really get him involved in a new story, they would have to recast him. yes, but for passing mention like in the third doctor adventures it would work. Personally I'm in favour of recasting for any actor who is no longer with us. While I can understand people who feel strongly otherwise, they don't have to buy those products which include recast roles, just like I assume they refuse to watch the Five Doctors or series 2 of Blakes 7. It's more personal for Big Finish, then that. Nicholas Courtney was a dear friend to the Big Finish team.
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Post by barnabaslives on Apr 5, 2016 20:23:21 GMT
No memory of that whatsoever. I've only heard it once. Hmmm... could it be that jbmasta is thinking of the wonderfully weird scene with Lizzie Hopley maybe? ...I think that really they'll have to recast the Brigadier. He's such a presence in the Third Doctor era that to have him constantly sidelined when they're on Earth makes no sense. I probably can't argue with that, although I will probably be happy if it serves more as impetus for off-Earth 3DAs than for recasting of the rather iconic Brigadier.
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Post by omega on Apr 5, 2016 21:12:43 GMT
yes, but for passing mention like in the third doctor adventures it would work. Personally I'm in favour of recasting for any actor who is no longer with us. While I can understand people who feel strongly otherwise, they don't have to buy those products which include recast roles, just like I assume they refuse to watch the Five Doctors or series 2 of Blakes 7. It's more personal for Big Finish, then that. Nicholas Courtney was a dear friend to the Big Finish team. As was Liz Sladen and Caroline John. Not all fans share the opinion @brians holds, and for many the mere mention of recasting Doctor and companion roles can be controversial. Fortunately Big Finish handle recasting very sensitively, as the main issue people seemed to have with the Third Doctor Box Set was the narration! Elliot Chapman as Ben Jackson also seems to have gone down well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 21:29:02 GMT
It's more personal for Big Finish, then that. Nicholas Courtney was a dear friend to the Big Finish team. As was Liz Sladen and Caroline John. Not all fans share the opinion @brians holds, and for many the mere mention of recasting Doctor and companion roles can be controversial. Fortunately Big Finish handle recasting very sensitively, as the main issue people seemed to have with the Third Doctor Box Set was the narration! Elliot Chapman as Ben Jackson also seems to have gone down well. Scarcely noticed any difference and Jemma Powell's appearance as Barbara in Adventures in Space and Time was very nearly like seeing a ghost. It'll be interesting to see what she does with the character on audio.
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Post by omega on Apr 5, 2016 21:36:23 GMT
As was Liz Sladen and Caroline John. Not all fans share the opinion @brians holds, and for many the mere mention of recasting Doctor and companion roles can be controversial. Fortunately Big Finish handle recasting very sensitively, as the main issue people seemed to have with the Third Doctor Box Set was the narration! Elliot Chapman as Ben Jackson also seems to have gone down well. Scarcely noticed any difference and Jemma Powell's appearance as Barbara in Adventures in Space and Time was very nearly like seeing a ghost. It'll be interesting to see what she does with the character on audio. I bet Carole Ann Ford and Maureen O'Brien will be happy not to do their Jacqueline Hill impressions at this point. At least Jemma Powell has a brief background in playing Barbara. It was far from the worst received character impression in An Adventure in Space and Time.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2016 22:26:08 GMT
yes, but for passing mention like in the third doctor adventures it would work. Personally I'm in favour of recasting for any actor who is no longer with us. While I can understand people who feel strongly otherwise, they don't have to buy those products which include recast roles, just like I assume they refuse to watch the Five Doctors or series 2 of Blakes 7. It's more personal for Big Finish, then that. Nicholas Courtney was a dear friend to the Big Finish team. It's a bit of a problem and I don't envy Big Finish on this. The Third Doctor's era was very much a team-effort, and with so many of that team no longer with us, what can they do to represent the era? The Companion Chronicles were ideal vehicles for that time, because one or two actors could recreate absent characters. With a full-cast, things are more tricky. My personal opinion is this. If John Levene wants to be difficult, then I can do without Benton, although it would be nice to have him along. Mike Yates always deserved to be elevated in status than he was on the show, and this is a further chance to do that - and Richard Franklin is so good, he deserves more chances to shine. Katy Manning seems happy to continue as Jo, and is - let's be honest - fabulous. So that leaves The Brigadiar. Should he be recast as well as The Doctor? He was such a large part of Jon Pertwee's time on the show, he can't always be in Geneva or enjoying a secret liaison with Doris (can he?). I would actually go for a recast, I think, but it's a tough one.
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