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Post by dasmaniac on Mar 30, 2016 19:15:13 GMT
I don't think we ever talked about this on the old forum so I figured I'd make a poll about it. With Big Finish covering the Time War, it's only a matter of time before they explore what happens to the Macqueen Master. What should they do? Regenerate him into the Jacobi Master, as expected, or into a new incarnation in between? Personally I think Big Finish should totally go for creating a new incarnation. The Macqueen Master is popular and I think Big Finish should take the opportunity to create another incarnation.
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Post by aztec on Mar 30, 2016 19:23:38 GMT
I'd like Jacobi to come back if it was possible at some point, preferably acting against Hurt (although the Doctor dosen't recognize him, and he supposedly fled the fighting I think BF could come up with a creative excuse to use him), but I also like the idea of Big Finish squeezing in another incarnation or two (perhaps another female incarnation) after Macqueen (who is brilliant don't get me wrong) maybe as a dedicated 'War Master'.
So I'd be open to either approach.
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Post by dasmaniac on Mar 30, 2016 19:45:15 GMT
I'd like Jacobi to come back if it was possible at some point, preferably acting against Hurt (although the Doctor dosen't recognize him, and he supposedly fled the fighting I think BF could come up with a creative excuse to use him), but I also like the idea of Big Finish squeezing in another incarnation or two (perhaps another female incarnation) after Macqueen (who is brilliant don't get me wrong) maybe as a dedicated 'War Master'. So I'd be open to either approach. I've always said that Big Finish should just use images of young Derek Jacobi from Hamlet. They can get away with having the Jacobi Master meet The War Doctor by making it so that he regenerated into a younger man with a beard and aged naturally. We never saw The Master regenerate so there's plenty of wiggle room.
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Post by chopper on Mar 30, 2016 21:57:19 GMT
A War Master could work. One that eventually slimed away and hid, ageing into YANA
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Post by muckypup on Mar 30, 2016 22:13:45 GMT
why is there not an option for BF to do both, and dragg john simm in for good measure too.
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Post by dasmaniac on Mar 30, 2016 22:31:00 GMT
why is there not an option for BF to do both, and dragg john simm in for good measure too. Because both wouldn't work. The Macqueen Master either regenerates into Jacobi or a new incarnation.
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Post by kimalysong on Mar 30, 2016 22:34:33 GMT
I would rather Macqueen turn into Jacobi.
If BigFinish can get Jacobi & Simm on board that would be fantastic. But I don't really need a new Master after Macqueen.
That being said didn't seem like 10 recognized Jacobi Master so there would have to be a reason for that if he was to play the Master as a villain. I am sure Big Finish could explain that easily though
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Post by elkawho on Mar 31, 2016 0:47:56 GMT
I voted, however I have no desire to even think about a Master after McQueen. He's a fantastic Master and there is so much more I'd like to see from him before we move on.
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Post by relativetime on Mar 31, 2016 0:56:23 GMT
If they do feature a Time War Master, then I think I would prefer a different incarnation. Jacobi is fantastic, don't get me wrong, but I have doubts that a good explanation can be given for his presence prior to the Tenth Doctor without the writers dedicating too much or too little time to addressing the issue.
Personally, though, I would prefer to have McQueen over a new incarnation if they decide to put the Master in the last two War Doctor box sets (or a possible future release). I think that says a lot about the character of the Master - that while the Doctor changes to fight in the war, the Master remains his same wicked self, which is what causes him to run away from the war in the end. I dunno, something like that.
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Post by elkawho on Mar 31, 2016 1:11:52 GMT
If they do feature a Time War Master, then I think I would prefer a different incarnation. Jacobi is fantastic, don't get me wrong, but I have doubts that a good explanation can be given for his presence prior to the Tenth Doctor without the writers dedicating too much or too little time to addressing the issue. Personally, though, I would prefer to have McQueen over a new incarnation if they decide to put the Master in the last two War Doctor box sets (or a possible future release). I think that says a lot about the character of the Master - that while the Doctor changes to fight in the war, the Master remains his same wicked self, which is what causes him to run away from the war in the end. I dunno, something like that. I agree. I don't think the Master has to change in order for him to do what he has to in the war. He's already willing to kill for not much motive. But in order to get away and save his own skin is a definite reason for him to regenerate and hide.
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Post by Hieronymus on Mar 31, 2016 4:05:10 GMT
It was my impression from watching the show that the Jacobi master had been brought back into physical being from the Matrix after his final death. But perhaps I'm wrong in that impression.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Mar 31, 2016 4:10:03 GMT
A War Master could work. One that eventually slimed away and hid, ageing into YANA Someone once posted a fan-fic War Doctor versus Professor Yana story, basically the Master considers himself the Doctor's opposite, so the more violent and monstrous the Doctor gets, the more pacifist the Master becomes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2016 5:13:44 GMT
A War Master could work. One that eventually slimed away and hid, ageing into YANA Someone once posted a fan-fic War Doctor versus Professor Yana story, basically the Master considers himself the Doctor's opposite, so the more violent and monstrous the Doctor gets, the more pacifist the Master becomes. Fits with what we see in The Adventures of Henrietta Street, where a clean-shaven Master (or the Man with the Rosette, in this case) turns up to hint that now the Time Lords have been wiped out, he and the Doctor may just have differing roles. One day, he might have to stop his all-conquering friend from doing harm. Plus it's a neat little idea to boot. I rather like it.
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Post by CookieMaster on Mar 31, 2016 6:18:20 GMT
I just want Jacobi to pop back alongside Hurt. It would be stunning to get those two together.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 31, 2016 11:09:17 GMT
Definitely Derek Jacobi. Time for his incarnation of the Master to shine on Big Finish. Perhaps we could even get a Professor YANA box set?
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Post by jasonward on Mar 31, 2016 12:24:01 GMT
I voted, however I have no desire to even think about a Master after McQueen. He's a fantastic Master and there is so much more I'd like to see from him before we move on. Why would BF have to move on? Surely they can have many Masters?
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Post by jasonward on Mar 31, 2016 12:25:12 GMT
I just want Jacobi to pop back alongside Hurt. It would be stunning to get those two together. Wouldn't that make it problematic that the future Doctor does not recognise the Jacobi Master?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 31, 2016 12:25:41 GMT
I voted, however I have no desire to even think about a Master after McQueen. He's a fantastic Master and there is so much more I'd like to see from him before we move on. Why would BF have to move on? Surely they can have many Masters? They could have one for each Doctor if they want.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Mar 31, 2016 12:35:12 GMT
I think i'd prefer a different incarnation to follow Macqueen. Sure we can have plenty of Macqueen stories set before then, but i'd say yes A War Master after MacQueen that then flees from the Fall of the Cruciform and becomes Yana
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Post by CookieMaster on Mar 31, 2016 13:57:57 GMT
I just want Jacobi to pop back alongside Hurt. It would be stunning to get those two together. Wouldn't that make it problematic that the future Doctor does not recognise the Jacobi Master? I wouldn't have thought so, i'm still confused as to how the Tenth Doctor can openly state that Time Lords can recognise each other on sight and yet the Twelfth Doctor needs half an hour and a whisper in his ear to figure out who Missy is. However, if they really are concerned about it, just remember that MacQueen's Master is about to meet Colin Baker's Doctor.
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