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Post by bobod on Mar 31, 2016 15:43:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 23:37:58 GMT
Sweet!
I used to see Alec wandering about in Glasgow a fair bit when Waterloo Road moved production up here.
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Post by Trace on Apr 3, 2016 0:53:36 GMT
Sweet! I used to see Alec wandering about in Glasgow a fair bit when Waterloo Road moved production up here. I think he's brilliant. I became an instant fan after his Barnabas in the 2004 WB pilot, and have every one of his films on DVD or Blu-ray. Dune and Principles of Lust are my favorites. I have NOT seen Waterloo Road...maybe I will Netflix that. I recall someone (was it Robert?) recommended that I check it out when we were all back on the old forum. |
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Post by kimalysong on Apr 3, 2016 0:59:05 GMT
He's actually in the story I am most interested in too
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2018 13:18:27 GMT
I believe now he is starring in the excellent OUTLANDER fourth series
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Post by Digi on Aug 1, 2018 23:16:05 GMT
I'm most familiar with him from his turn as Paul Atreides in the Sci Fi Channel miniseries adaptation of Dune a number of years back. I've always liked him, so I'm pleased to see him turn up in any Big Finish production.
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Post by Trace on Aug 2, 2018 2:11:05 GMT
I believe now he is starring in the excellent OUTLANDER fourth series Now I’m truly about to do handsprings!!! What a perfect combination and the best news I’ve had in weeks! I had NOT heard this—thank you for that. (Also—funny coincidence seeing as I—only moments ago—asked you if you like ‘Outlander’ in your Scotland thread without having read this one yet.) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2018 4:43:25 GMT
I believe now he is starring in the excellent OUTLANDER fourth series Now I’m truly about to do handsprings!!! What a perfect combination and the best news I’ve had in weeks! I had NOT heard this—thank you for that. (Also—funny coincidence seeing as I—only moments ago—asked you if you like ‘Outlander’ in your Scotland thread without having read this one yet.) Ha ha yes i read the books after my sisters told me it was about time travel had to read them all to see if it was any good but TVshow is excellent |
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Post by Trace on Aug 3, 2018 1:10:57 GMT
Now I’m truly about to do handsprings!!! What a perfect combination and the best news I’ve had in weeks! I had NOT heard this—thank you for that. (Also—funny coincidence seeing as I—only moments ago—asked you if you like ‘Outlander’ in your Scotland thread without having read this one yet.) Ha ha yes i read the books after my sisters told me it was about time travel had to read them all to see if it was any good but TVshow is excellent Same here—loved the books (I wouldn’t say Gabaldon is writing anything really literary here, but man! She CAN tell a story!). Naturally, I love the TV series! Wonderful when the TV show gets it right—and is as good as the books, although that seems to be happening a lot more often in recent years. Game of Thrones is excellent and (for me) it’s actually an improvement on Martin’s wordy prose. That is sacrilege to Martin fans, I know. But sorry—I read Book 1, got halfway through Book 2, and finally stopped and said, “why am I doing this to myself when the TV series has equaled or improved on all the best parts, and excised the overkill parts. American Gods—love Gaiman’s writing in general. The series 1 was quite good but the jury is still out if they can hold the momentum. I LOVED Laura Moon—and her character was really improved and expanded for TV. Sorry for going a bit OT but I somehow made the connections, so back to this thread. I checked today and so far it appears Alec’s role is a small but pivotal one in Outlander series 4, and so far he may only be guest-starring on one episode. But, I suppose there’s always room for a return! So glad about this. I thought his Barnabas Collins was the very BEST thing about the pilot for the 2004 WB remake of DS. It was a stellar cast anyway—Jessica Chastain as Carolyn, Matt Czuchry as Willie, Blair Brown as Liz, Marley Shelton as Vicki, Ivana Miličević as Angelique, Martin Donovan as Roger, Kelly Hu as Julia). And of course, I’ve loved ALL his films, TV’s Dune/Children of a Dune and Waterloo Road, and MOSTLY—his work for the BF audios! |
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Post by Digi on Aug 3, 2018 1:59:23 GMT
Ha ha yes i read the books after my sisters told me it was about time travel had to read them all to see if it was any good but TVshow is excellent Game of Thrones is excellent and (for me) it’s actually an improvement on Martin’s wordy prose. That is sacrilege to Martin fans, I know. But sorry—I read Book 1, got halfway through Book 2, and finally stopped and said, “why am I doing this to myself when the TV series has equaled or improved on all the best parts, and excised the overkill parts. I will call heresy! Game of Thrones did a decent adaptation (better than most) for about three seasons, even though it abandoned great and key moments. I even liked some of their creative choices, like making Gendry more prominent. And then it went off the rails. Season 4 was so-so, season 5 (and particularly its season finale) was so horrendous that I gave up on it completely. As usual, as always: books > TV/movie |
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Post by newt5996 on Aug 3, 2018 2:20:45 GMT
Ha ha yes i read the books after my sisters told me it was about time travel had to read them all to see if it was any good but TVshow is excellent Same here—loved the books (I wouldn’t say Gabaldon is writing anything really literary here, but man! She CAN tell a story!). Naturally, I love the TV series! Wonderful when the TV show gets it right—and is as good as the books, although that seems to be happening a lot more often in recent years. Game of Thrones is excellent and (for me) it’s actually an improvement on Martin’s wordy prose. That is sacrilege to Martin fans, I know. But sorry—I read Book 1, got halfway through Book 2, and finally stopped and said, “why am I doing this to myself when the TV series has equaled or improved on all the best parts, and excised the overkill parts. American Gods—love Gaiman’s writing in general. The series 1 was quite good but the jury is still out if they can hold the momentum. I LOVED Laura Moon—and her character was really improved and expanded for TV. Sorry for going a bit OT but I somehow made the connections, so back to this thread. I checked today and so far it appears Alec’s role is a small but pivotal one in Outlander series 4, and so far he may only be guest-starring on one episode. But, I suppose there’s always room for a return! So glad about this. I thought his Barnabas Collins was the very BEST thing about the pilot for the 2004 WB remake of DS. It was a stellar cast anyway—Jessica Chastain as Carolyn, Matt Czuchry as Willie, Blair Brown as Liz, Marley Shelton as Vicki, Ivana Miličević as Angelique, Martin Donovan as Roger, Kelly Hu as Julia). And of course, I’ve loved ALL his films, Dune/Children of a Dune and Waterloo Road, and MOSTLY—his work for the BF audios! Interesting, I’m reading American Gods right now and actually thing Gaiman’s a bit too wordy. On the 2004 pilot I thought that they got quite a few of the characters right (mainly an updated Vicki, Barnabas, And Roger) but I thought the updated Willie was a bit too frat boy and I found Julia bland (though who wouldn’t be when following in Grayson Hall’s footsteps and wig) |
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Post by Trace on Aug 3, 2018 3:21:34 GMT
Same here—loved the books (I wouldn’t say Gabaldon is writing anything really literary here, but man! She CAN tell a story!). Naturally, I love the TV series! Wonderful when the TV show gets it right—and is as good as the books, although that seems to be happening a lot more often in recent years. Game of Thrones is excellent and (for me) it’s actually an improvement on Martin’s wordy prose. That is sacrilege to Martin fans, I know. But sorry—I read Book 1, got halfway through Book 2, and finally stopped and said, “why am I doing this to myself when the TV series has equaled or improved on all the best parts, and excised the overkill parts. American Gods—love Gaiman’s writing in general. The series 1 was quite good but the jury is still out if they can hold the momentum. I LOVED Laura Moon—and her character was really improved and expanded for TV. Sorry for going a bit OT but I somehow made the connections, so back to this thread. I checked today and so far it appears Alec’s role is a small but pivotal one in Outlander series 4, and so far he may only be guest-starring on one episode. But, I suppose there’s always room for a return! So glad about this. I thought his Barnabas Collins was the very BEST thing about the pilot for the 2004 WB remake of DS. It was a stellar cast anyway—Jessica Chastain as Carolyn, Matt Czuchry as Willie, Blair Brown as Liz, Marley Shelton as Vicki, Ivana Miličević as Angelique, Martin Donovan as Roger, Kelly Hu as Julia). And of course, I’ve loved ALL his films, Dune/Children of a Dune and Waterloo Road, and MOSTLY—his work for the BF audios! Interesting, I’m reading American Gods right now and actually thing Gaiman’s a bit too wordy. On the 2004 pilot I thought that they got quite a few of the characters right (mainly an updated Vicki, Barnabas, And Roger) but I thought the updated Willie was a bit too frat boy and I found Julia bland (though who wouldn’t be when following in Grayson Hall’s footsteps and wig) That IS interesting, but I’ve heard others say the same thing that you have about Gaiman’s writing. Re: DS 2004, I agree—Grayson is an tough act to follow. I did like frat boy Willie though—better than Jim Fyfe’s 91 version (get a shower!) and WAAAAAAY better than Jackie Earle Haley’s 2012 version (ewww—just creepy! AND get three showers. With bleach.) Willie is a handsome rake oozing charisma and con—and a bit of sleaze—and a silver tongued devil! |
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Post by Trace on Aug 3, 2018 3:41:29 GMT
Game of Thrones is excellent and (for me) it’s actually an improvement on Martin’s wordy prose. That is sacrilege to Martin fans, I know. But sorry—I read Book 1, got halfway through Book 2, and finally stopped and said, “why am I doing this to myself when the TV series has equaled or improved on all the best parts, and excised the overkill parts. I will call heresy! Game of Thrones did a decent adaptation (better than most) for about three seasons, even though it abandoned great and key moments. I even liked some of their creative choices, like making Gendry more prominent. And then it went off the rails. Season 4 was so-so, season 5 (and particularly its season finale) was so horrendous that I gave up on it completely. As usual, as always: books > TV/movie I disagree in recent years. I would have agreed with you at one time, but I truly believe we’re in a golden age for television, with some exceptional tv series—brilliant acting, amazing sets/costuming, quality drama, and very “on par” with feature films now. At one time, television just couldn’t equal the movies, with lower budgets and B-grade actors. That’s all changed now. And with authors contributing to scripts and maintaining creative input or control, I think TV adaptations of their novels can be improvements. On GoT, I completely understand the heresy. You just don’t knock George R.R. Martin! It was always the same with J.R.R. Tolkien (is the “double R” just coincidence or by design? Weird.) But i can still criticism Tolkien’s writing style (and do) and I feel similarly about Martin. Who cares who begat whom and which war from 1,000 years ago was fought by which civilizations or races who no longer exist...and why do we need 45 pages of description of said peoples and said wars, when a paragraph would do the trick. Anyway—I’m in the minority. I know that. We should move this convo to another thread if we’re going to continue it (I must be a masochist)...because at the very least I don’t want to be banned by the admins for going OT and worse—keeping it there! Just want it known that I do understand your viewpoint, digi, and respect it! It IS the majority, after all. I know when I’m the underdog!  |
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Post by Rob Morris on Aug 3, 2018 6:10:52 GMT
I pretty much loathe all sci-fi and fantasy books. I think they're horribly written. Overblown language and prose that gets justified as "world-building" when frankly for me it's just "stalling".
It happens in a lot of "adult" literature, but the SF/Fantasy gene is particularly prone to it for some reason. Kids' books don't have it as they wouldn't put up with it, so I have no idea why adults think it's being sophisticated. Give me Rowling over Martin and Tolkein any day. It's like Pop versus Rock - the simplicity is actually *harder* but is looked down on.
But that's a whole other thread.
(And you can accuse me of inverse snobbery. That's definitely true.)
In terms of the 2004 Willie Loomis... yeah. I like him a lot. Not just aesthetically (although, blimey, that doesn't hurt - Hi Matt!) but there's a couple of touches in the story that work nicely. One... he actually has a girlfriend to start with which normalises him a fair bit. Two... that being slaved to Barnabas actually improves him (him not needing glasses any more is a very subtle touch, but I love it).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 7:49:04 GMT
Ha ha yes i read the books after my sisters told me it was about time travel had to read them all to see if it was any good but TVshow is excellent Same here—loved the books (I wouldn’t say Gabaldon is writing anything really literary here, but man! She CAN tell a story!). Naturally, I love the TV series! Wonderful when the TV show gets it right—and is as good as the books, although that seems to be happening a lot more often in recent years. Game of Thrones is excellent and (for me) it’s actually an improvement on Martin’s wordy prose. That is sacrilege to Martin fans, I know. But sorry—I read Book 1, got halfway through Book 2, and finally stopped and said, “why am I doing this to myself when the TV series has equaled or improved on all the best parts, and excised the overkill parts. American Gods—love Gaiman’s writing in general. The series 1 was quite good but the jury is still out if they can hold the momentum. I LOVED Laura Moon—and her character was really improved and expanded for TV. Sorry for going a bit OT but I somehow made the connections, so back to this thread. I checked today and so far it appears Alec’s role is a small but pivotal one in Outlander series 4, and so far he may only be guest-starring on one episode. But, I suppose there’s always room for a return! So glad about this. I thought his Barnabas Collins was the very BEST thing about the pilot for the 2004 WB remake of DS. It was a stellar cast anyway—Jessica Chastain as Carolyn, Matt Czuchry as Willie, Blair Brown as Liz, Marley Shelton as Vicki, Ivana Miličević as Angelique, Martin Donovan as Roger, Kelly Hu as Julia). And of course, I’ve loved ALL his films, TV’s Dune/Children of a Dune and Waterloo Road, and MOSTLY—his work for the BF audios! The books will always be on the shelf for those who love the books and the tv series will be in the DVD player for those who like the TV version. What i did enjoy was the audios of Gabaldons Outlander series very much enjoyed Davina Porter reading them Just as I enjoyed Stephen Fry reading the Harry Potter series. We are spoiled for choice nowadays. Gaiman just leaves me cold but enough people love his books.I enjoyed the sandman graphic books. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2018 7:50:46 GMT
Now Back to Alec Newman 😝
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Post by Ela on Aug 3, 2018 20:49:47 GMT
I pretty much loathe all sci-fi and fantasy books. I think they're horribly written. Overblown language and prose that gets justified as "world-building" when frankly for me it's just "stalling". It happens in a lot of "adult" literature, but the SF/Fantasy gene is particularly prone to it for some reason. Kids' books don't have it as they wouldn't put up with it, so I have no idea why adults think it's being sophisticated. Give me Rowling over Martin and Tolkein any day. It's like Pop versus Rock - the simplicity is actually *harder* but is looked down on. But that's a whole other thread. (And you can accuse me of inverse snobbery. That's definitely true.) In terms of the 2004 Willie Loomis... yeah. I like him a lot. Not just aesthetically (although, blimey, that doesn't hurt - Hi Matt!) but there's a couple of touches in the story that work nicely. One... he actually has a girlfriend to start with which normalises him a fair bit. Two... that being slaved to Barnabas actually improves him (him not needing glasses any more is a very subtle touch, but I love it). scifi and fantasy? That's a pretty broad statement. I agree it's true in some cases, but I don't find it to be true in all. I've definitely found things worth reading. And I've also read some things that truly weren't worth the effort. |
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Post by Trace on Aug 4, 2018 6:47:35 GMT
What i did enjoy was the audios of Gabaldons Outlander series very much enjoyed Davina Porter reading them Just as I enjoyed Stephen Fry reading the Harry Potter series. We are spoiled for choice nowadays. Gaiman just leaves me cold but enough people love his books.I enjoyed the sandman graphic books. I agree— Davina is EXCELLENT. Stephen Fry too...and I love Jim Dale’s as well. |
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Post by Trace on Aug 4, 2018 6:48:39 GMT
Now Back to Alec Newman 😝 I hope we get some word soon that he’s back for bloodline or anything else. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2018 6:50:25 GMT
Now Back to Alec Newman 😝 I hope we get some word soon that he’s back for bloodline or anything else. I guess now that they have started recording it we should expect it NEXT year.Am sure when they are closer to finishing they might start giving out snippets |
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