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Post by aztec on Oct 10, 2015 22:31:45 GMT
I don't recall ever seeing that before. It's interesting. I guess I am going to try and accept that Nine wasn't new after all then, although I still think that's what the ears comment meant at the time. I think RTD changed his mind and is trying to reinterpret the scene. It takes a bit of adjustment mentally to shift my thinking of this after years of being convinced it went the other way. Well, if it helps, everyone assumed The Fifth Doctor and Peri had only two adventures together before Big Finish explored (or forced, depending on your point of view) a possible gap and that 8 or 9 ended the time war until Moffat decided otherwise (not that I mind in that case, very much looking forward to the War Doctor boxsets...), my point being that canon is never set in stone in Doctor Who, (and is often being reinterpreted by new writers) and with BF's success partially built on slotting numerous new stories into any workable gap they can find...I think it would be a shame to sacrifice some very interesting potential stories for the 9th Doctor, merely because of a single ambiguously delivered jokey line from one episode.
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Post by tordred on Oct 10, 2015 23:40:13 GMT
I'm not sure how well an ongoing pre-Rose Nine range would work, but I'd love to see a Ninth Doctor: The First Adventure as a post regeneration story.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Oct 11, 2015 13:39:29 GMT
9/10/11 Adventures that contain adaptations of VNA's the BF feel that cant adapt as is or close in regards to how continuity stands maybe?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 11, 2015 14:04:03 GMT
Not quite sure what you mean by this. Are you referring to the Metacrisis Doctor? Typo, I meant the Doctor's Daughter...I think a series with Rose and The Metacrisis Doctor would be a spin off too far i.m.o, it would give Tennant double the work of the other doctor, it's too 'happy families' for me (not a fan of Rose/10's lovey dovey stuff, though certain sections of Tumblr would probably love it...) and it doesn't really lend itself to much the parent show couldn't do (i.m.o it would just turn out as a series of repetitive earthbound 'what if?' stories, and it would arguably undermine the companion/doctor relationship in any potential 'proper' Doctor/Rose stories) Though speaking of The Doctor's Doctor...I wonder where and if David Morrisey's Jackson Lake would still fit in anywhere... I think a Metacrisis Doctor spinoff could work if it didn't become too much like fanfiction but it would have to emphasise how Rose is trapped and this isn't the same Doctor as the one we're used to so as not to make her second ending anti-climatic. It would be a tricky line for Big Finish to cross though.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2015 14:41:36 GMT
I like the idea of an earlier doctor with madame vastra, but what about making it one of the earlier ones, like six or seven
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 11, 2015 15:59:34 GMT
I like the idea of an earlier doctor with madame vastra, but what about making it one of the earlier ones, like six or seven What about the 4th Doctor? You could imagine him with Madam Vastra.
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Post by TheTimelordSpy on Oct 11, 2015 17:48:54 GMT
I think Big Finish would be the only way we will get The Doctor's daughter spin off.
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Post by constonks on Oct 12, 2015 0:48:14 GMT
I thought the Eighth Doctor would be a great choice for Vastra's origin story but I think of the classic Docs could pull it off. Strax might have met a different Doctor as well. In any case, I'd like that as a boxset - Paternoster Origins. Three hour-long episodes, each with a different Doctor. I assuuuume Jenny had only met Smith cause she seems surprised by the idea of regeneration whereas Vastra is very familiar with it so I suppose we'd need Matt Smith for that. Not that we won't get him eventually. Also: The only thing that states the Ninth Doctor had only recently regenerated is The Beast of Babylon (the Puffin eShort) which also says he didn't take a companion before Rose. But! Maybe he lost his memory of his past adventures' details in some big sweeping epic story before Rose. A big war story, maybe with the Nestene involved somehow. I have more detailed ideas but who knows? Maybe I'll get to use them some day, for Who or not.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2015 5:47:53 GMT
On the ninth doctor. Like others I feel there's a definite implication he is newly regenerated, but at the end of the episode he leaves without Rose, giving plenty of scope for solo adventures before reappearing seconds later to pick her up.
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Post by aztec on Oct 12, 2015 13:22:50 GMT
On the ninth doctor. Like others I feel there's a definite implication he is newly regenerated, but at the end of the episode he leaves without Rose, giving plenty of scope for solo adventures before reappearing seconds later to pick her up. The only problem with that is the 9th Doctor remembering (or caring about) the exact time, place and date of his departure (not to mention the conversation he was having with Rose), and being able to de-materialize his (notoriously unreliable) Tardis at precisely the right second straight after his departure...If he had gone off journeying by himself or other companions for years or decades (The War Doctor states his age as 800 in DOTD, 9 states he is 900 later in Series 1) why would he consider Rose, the girl he knew for a few hours to be so special? I.m.o it would probably just be easier in an hypothetical audio if the Doctor dropped Rose off for lunch or a visit home then went off by himself for a few years.
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Post by acousticwolf on Oct 12, 2015 13:31:24 GMT
On the ninth doctor. Like others I feel there's a definite implication he is newly regenerated, but at the end of the episode he leaves without Rose, giving plenty of scope for solo adventures before reappearing seconds later to pick her up. The only problem with that is the 9th Doctor remembering (or caring about) the exact time, place and date of his departure (not to mention the conversation he was having with Rose), and being able to de-materialize his (notoriously unreliable) Tardis at precisely the right second straight after his departure...If he had gone off journeying by himself or other companions for years or decades (The War Doctor states his age as 800 in DOTD, 9 states he is 900 later in Series 1) why would he consider Rose, the girl he knew for a few hours to be so special? I.m.o it would probably just be easier in an hypothetical audio if the Doctor dropped Rose off for lunch or a visit home then went off by himself for a few years. The short novel The Beast of Babylon by Charlie Higson is set in that moment between leaving Rose and coming back. It's only one adventure and works quite well, but I'd struggle with the concept if he had lots of adventures in that couple of seconds. Cheers Tony
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2015 14:17:28 GMT
It's like the three year gap in Vampire Science. I'm not prescious about it, I just like to think of the ears as being a regen gag. What really threw me in that ep was that all o the previous doctors Clive uncovered were doc 9. Never made sense to me. I know that including the other eight would have confused newbies, but it felt weird
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 12, 2015 15:05:09 GMT
I thought the Eighth Doctor would be a great choice for Vastra's origin story but I think of the classic Docs could pull it off. Strax might have met a different Doctor as well. In any case, I'd like that as a boxset - Paternoster Origins. Three hour-long episodes, each with a different Doctor. I assuuuume Jenny had only met Smith cause she seems surprised by the idea of regeneration whereas Vastra is very familiar with it so I suppose we'd need Matt Smith for that. Not that we won't get him eventually. Also: The only thing that states the Ninth Doctor had only recently regenerated is The Beast of Babylon (the Puffin eShort) which also says he didn't take a companion before Rose. But! Maybe he lost his memory of his past adventures' details in some big sweeping epic story before Rose. A big war story, maybe with the Nestene involved somehow. I have more detailed ideas but who knows? Maybe I'll get to use them some day, for Who or not. Strax with the 6th Doctor would be interesting. I imagine 6 would get increasingly frustrated with him.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2015 15:33:50 GMT
I can here six shouting exasperatedly at him now :-)
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Post by agentten on Oct 12, 2015 21:08:42 GMT
I was thinking today that it would be interesting to expand on Clara's visitations to the Doctor. We only get glimpses of most of them in "The Name of The Doctor" but many of the images we see appear to be taking place mid-adventure. Could be neat to pull in some of the classic actors and do a box set that fleshes out those stories, all linked together with the theme of Clara's intervention to save The Doctor.
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Post by TheTimelordSpy on Oct 12, 2015 21:20:09 GMT
I thought the Eighth Doctor would be a great choice for Vastra's origin story but I think of the classic Docs could pull it off. Strax might have met a different Doctor as well. In any case, I'd like that as a boxset - Paternoster Origins. Three hour-long episodes, each with a different Doctor. I assuuuume Jenny had only met Smith cause she seems surprised by the idea of regeneration whereas Vastra is very familiar with it so I suppose we'd need Matt Smith for that. Not that we won't get him eventually. Also: The only thing that states the Ninth Doctor had only recently regenerated is The Beast of Babylon (the Puffin eShort) which also says he didn't take a companion before Rose. But! Maybe he lost his memory of his past adventures' details in some big sweeping epic story before Rose. A big war story, maybe with the Nestene involved somehow. I have more detailed ideas but who knows? Maybe I'll get to use them some day, for Who or not. Strax with the 6th Doctor would be interesting. I imagine 6 would get increasingly frustrated with him. I could see Three doing the same thing
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 13, 2015 15:35:05 GMT
Strax with the 6th Doctor would be interesting. I imagine 6 would get increasingly frustrated with him. I could see Three doing the same thing I thought 3 initially but it wouldn't seem the same without Jon Pertwee voicing his Doctor's inevitable rudeness towards Strax.
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Post by barnabaslives on Oct 13, 2015 15:42:09 GMT
I was hoping for Six to meet Strax the second I first saw Six and a Sontaran on the cover of New Monsters. I'm sure those two would have some of the most delightful exchanges.
I should give the question some careful though sometime, I'm sure there must be some great opportunities. All I can really think of at the moment is how much I hope the Paternoster Gang get a Big Finish box set or better yet a series.
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Post by TheTimelordSpy on Oct 13, 2015 17:39:34 GMT
I was hoping for Six to meet Strax the second I first saw Six and a Sontaran on the cover of New Monsters. I'm sure those two would have some of the most delightful exchanges. I should give the question some careful though sometime, I'm sure there must be some great opportunities. All I can really think of at the moment is how much I hope the Paternoster Gang get a Big Finish box set or better yet a series. I really want a tv spin off for them
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Post by agentten on Oct 13, 2015 18:24:22 GMT
I was hoping for Six to meet Strax the second I first saw Six and a Sontaran on the cover of New Monsters. I'm sure those two would have some of the most delightful exchanges. I should give the question some careful though sometime, I'm sure there must be some great opportunities. All I can really think of at the moment is how much I hope the Paternoster Gang get a Big Finish box set or better yet a series. I really want a tv spin off for them I second that.
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