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Post by mrperson on Oct 13, 2015 18:34:37 GMT
1. 10 w/ Donna or new companion(s).
2. 11 w/ new companion(s).
I hope that my guesswork is correct that Matt Smith wanted his Doctor to proceed as we saw in S5 (which may be my favorite overall season of the reboot), but Moffatt pushed him to be more and more WACKY. I'm guessing he would be free to stick to his own take in Big Finish. And besides, on average, I think Big Finish is better than original or new series Who - so regardless of his take, I'd probably end up liking the stories more on average than his on TV.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 13, 2015 20:08:46 GMT
2. 11 w/ new companion(s). Have you tried reading Titan Magazine's Doctor Who Comic?
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Post by TheTimelordSpy on Oct 13, 2015 20:10:15 GMT
1. 10 w/ Donna or new companion(s). 2. 11 w/ new companion(s). I hope that my guesswork is correct that Matt Smith wanted his Doctor to proceed as we saw in S5 (which may be my favorite overall season of the reboot), but Moffatt pushed him to be more and more WACKY. I'm guessing he would be free to stick to his own take in Big Finish. And besides, on average, I think Big Finish is better than original or new series Who - so regardless of his take, I'd probably end up liking the stories more on average than his on TV. Id enjoy seeing most of the doctors take up new companions in big finish itd be interesting to see. We know 5,6,7,8 have but i mean 1,2,3,10,11
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Post by srp5548 on Oct 14, 2015 16:36:59 GMT
I would really like more 8th doctor taking place between the tv movie storm warning. We know Gemma and Sampson were companions so maybe some stories with them or just some other stuff after the tv movie. It seems like they are mostly moving his timeline toward Night of the Doctor
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Post by TheTimelordSpy on Oct 14, 2015 19:01:08 GMT
Not quite sure what you mean by this. Are you referring to the Metacrisis Doctor? Typo, I meant the Doctor's Daughter...I think a series with Rose and The Metacrisis Doctor would be a spin off too far i.m.o, it would give Tennant double the work of the other doctor, it's too 'happy families' for me (not a fan of Rose/10's lovey dovey stuff, though certain sections of Tumblr would probably love it...) and it doesn't really lend itself to much the parent show couldn't do (i.m.o it would just turn out as a series of repetitive earthbound 'what if?' stories, and it would arguably undermine the companion/doctor relationship in any potential 'proper' Doctor/Rose stories) Though speaking of The Doctor's Doctor...I wonder where and if David Morrisey's Jackson Lake would still fit in anywhere... I hate all the lovey dovey stuff too. Better off without it.
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Post by aztec on Oct 14, 2015 20:26:33 GMT
I would really like more 8th doctor taking place between the tv movie storm warning. We know Gemma and Sampson were companions so maybe some stories with them or just some other stuff after the tv movie. It seems like they are mostly moving his timeline toward Night of the Doctor I can partially understand Big Finish's desire to move McGann's Doctor largely forward, until recently he was their most modern doctor, with only his beginning and end televised there's near limitless potential (isn't he B.F's largest selling Doctor?) but naturally reasons to pull the story (however slowly) to its climax (lots of new listeners, myself included, were brought in by Night Of The Doctor), and McGann seems like an actor who would want to take the character in as many directions as possible (I've read he was thinking about quitting before the EDA's were commissioned don't know if that's true) and not risk things getting stale...so although I personally prefer the joyous, slighty scatterbrained wanderer that was early 8, McGann and Big Finish probably have good reasons for feeling differently. That said, there's so many gaps in his audio chronology (not to mention the comics and novels apparently), it would be a shame not to have the occasional (or regular) glimpse into his past if the schedules/budgets allow it (I'll buy anything with the 8th Doctor in it...), with the increasing amount of New Who properties Big Finish may be acquiring there's possibly a danger McGann's Doctor could loose momentum if he's pushed too dark too quickly, and a I think a break from the angst and darkness of his later stories could be beneficial (perhaps making the time war hit all that harder when it starts). Personally I'd love more stories with Mary or Fitz, though I always thought it was kinda odd they invented Gemma and Samson for just one story...I've heard Samson was supposedly invented to explain the reference to Sam in Minuet In Hell, (which dosen't really work as he never calls Samson Sam and looses his memory of the siblings entirely until Terra Firma...) but again, I don't know if that is true or not. With the 20th Anniversary of the TV Movie (and the 15th Anniversary of Storm Warning) coming up next year, I've got my fingers crossed Big Finish have a surprise up their sleeve...(I actually asked about this on the podcast thread on the old forum, but never got a reply...) though I'm also very much enjoying Doom Coalition so far...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 16:17:48 GMT
I'd like to see eight move through to his finale before we go back to start filling in the gaps.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Oct 16, 2015 18:17:10 GMT
I'd like to see eight move through to his finale before we go back to start filling in the gaps. I agree, unless its audio dramas featuring Daphne Ashbrook returning as Grace.
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Post by elkawho on Oct 16, 2015 21:14:54 GMT
I'd like to see eight move through to his finale before we go back to start filling in the gaps. Not me. I'd like to wait as long as possible to get to the end.
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Post by Ela on Oct 16, 2015 21:55:18 GMT
Why? Even if he gets to the end, doesn't mean they can't still go back and fill in with more stories.
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Post by david on Oct 16, 2015 22:13:34 GMT
Exactly. Since BBC Wales already made the true final end for McGann, all we'd be doing is finishing one of his stories, presumably, with him hearing a distress call from Cass' ship. I don't see how that's a problem to show it since we know how it all ends now anyway.
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Post by elkawho on Oct 16, 2015 23:12:16 GMT
One of the things I love about Doom Coalition is that we're not really getting a dark Eighth Doctor. He is much more optimistic than he was during Dark Eyes, and it was an unexpected and very pleasant surprise. I enjoy McGann the most when he can be the hopeful Doctor, and I don't believe we'll see much of that once the Time War starts. I want to enjoy this for as long as I can and not rush toward his meeting with Cass.
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Post by constonks on Oct 17, 2015 13:24:28 GMT
Exactly. Since BBC Wales already made the true final end for McGann, all we'd be doing is finishing one of his stories, presumably, with him hearing a distress call from Cass' ship. I don't see how that's a problem to show it since we know how it all ends now anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if that's how The Eighth Doctor: The Time War will conclude. That or him crashing at the Villa Diodati.
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Post by TheTimelordSpy on Oct 17, 2015 18:08:15 GMT
One of the things I love about Doom Coalition is that we're not really getting a dark Eighth Doctor. He is much more optimistic than he was during Dark Eyes, and it was an unexpected and very pleasant surprise. I enjoy McGann the most when he can be the hopeful Doctor, and I don't believe we'll see much of that once the Time War starts. I want to enjoy this for as long as I can and not rush toward his meeting with Cass. Exactly what i enjoy about 8 as well. Havent listened to near as many audios as most of the people but that really should be his Doctors thing.
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Post by mrfuggleboppins on Oct 18, 2015 1:05:34 GMT
Would be nice to see some Titan Comics crossovers with 10/Gabby, 11/Alice and 8/Josie.
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Post by aztec on Oct 18, 2015 11:02:26 GMT
One of the things I love about Doom Coalition is that we're not really getting a dark Eighth Doctor. He is much more optimistic than he was during Dark Eyes, and it was an unexpected and very pleasant surprise. I enjoy McGann the most when he can be the hopeful Doctor, and I don't believe we'll see much of that once the Time War starts. I want to enjoy this for as long as I can and not rush toward his meeting with Cass. I completely agree, McGann's my favorite Doctor down in part to his endless optimism and sense of wonderment, I'm in no hurry to see that get crushed by the time war, and as much as I'm looking forward to the Time War boxset's I'm still not entirely convinced it's a story that needs to be told in any great detail. With McGann's Doctor, unlike Hurt's 'forgotten' incarnation, I think there's a stronger case for showing more of his experience of the war chronologically, and naturally things are going to get pretty damn depressing for him as time wears on...once you enter the darkness of the time war, I don't think there's much fun to be had...and the longer it takes for the Time War to start, the bigger the chance of another onscreen appearance from McGann...please... We waited 17 years for an onscreen Regeneration, at the moment I feel quite content waiting 17 years for a lead in to NOTD... Going off on a tangent here...it's one of the reasons I'm glad he wasn't the war Doctor, I'd find it a massive kick in the teeth if Moffat broke down his heroic wanderer into a blood soaked outcast (once you break a doctor, there's no going back) , only to have the destruction of Gallifrey reversed anyway, I always struggled to see McGann's doctor throw away his morals like that (frankly it always struck me as cliched and cowardly that his Doctor would enter the fight rather than stay true to his morals and do all he could to stop it peacefully) and I'd find it much harder to sympathize with a Doctor who voluntarily walks down the path to double genocide, rather that Hurt's Doctor who was engineered as a warrior from the start. I think it would render all of 8's suffering completely moot if Gallifrey was saved anyway, adding a missing Doctor in between adds to, rather than detracts from the tragedy i.m.o (I kinda like that it shifts the blame in a way onto a 'non-doctor', making the 'proper' new who doctors less of a cliched 'lonely god' and more of a figurehead that kids can look up to-failing at doing the right thing, rather than suceeding at doing the wrong thing...), and I think now we have the War Doctor audios, it's going to much more interesting starting from the opposite end-i.e Hurt's Doctor hopefully starts out as quite a dark 'action man' with moral dilemnas and darkness the other doctors rarely even hint at, but weirdly enough he seems to have grown tired of the war and his demons and gradually starts acting more like the Doctor again, even at the point of considering using the moment in DOTD, it certainly subverts alot of expectations, and allows for much more interesting character work than using 8 or 9 would i.m.o.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Oct 18, 2015 11:23:22 GMT
Jago And Litefoot versus Torchwood for the freedom of Vastra. The Docto involved is using the Cornelius Darke pseudonym so Torchwood doesn't put two and two together.
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Post by aztec on Oct 18, 2015 11:26:18 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if that's how The Eighth Doctor: The Time War will conclude. That or him crashing at the Villa Diodati. I doubt 8's Time War boxset will be a one off, it's clear in NOTD the war has been raging for ages (McGann's NOTD Costume seems to have replaced his TV Movie one in much of the ancillary materials and marketing by the BBC and the time war is clearly a very popular period to explore in the fanbase), and the Doctor seems to break pretty quickly when the Sisterhood resuscitate him (I've seen some suggest him staying on the ship was a suicide attempt), I think it would be kinda insulting if they knock McGann's Doctor out of the time war too early, I'd like to see him try and avoid fighting for as long as possible, before he is forced to join in the fight. Add in the Older 8th Doctor in Mary's Story, who seems very angry and weary-clearly from the midst of the time war i.m.o (I like to think the mysterious Todd and Rita he mentions were his final companions before the time war breaks out, and I think there's something quite sad in universe about 8's beautiful tardis set being destroyed...) and the writers notes for Dark Eyes 4: ...So, strap yourself in for one final ride on the Dark Eyes rollercoaster, and when the final disc stops spinning, rest assured that it's certainly not the beginning of the end. Nor even the end of the Beginning. It's a very long way to Karn. At Big Finish, the Eighth Doctor will live on... -Matt Fitton, writers notes, Dark Eyes 4.2 The Monster Of Montmartre And I think there's a case for many more 8th Doctor Time War Stories to come...
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Post by constonks on Oct 18, 2015 16:45:22 GMT
All I can really think of at the moment is how much I hope the Paternoster Gang get a Big Finish box set or better yet a series. The more I think about the Paternoster Gang, the more I question if I really want a series. Like an origins box set totally and maybe one or two other adventures here and there - but I'd rather see them become recurring characters in the Doctor Who audios and Jago & Litefoot.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 18:41:42 GMT
I think the eighth doctor time war prequel set is an interesting gambit and goves a potential future range if John Hurt isn't available for any more war doctor sets beyond the planned four.
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