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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 13:34:00 GMT
Nick posted a status on Facebook about how he's currently writing, writing, writing - specifically mentioning The Prisoner. Someone questioned, in the comments section, the progress of Jekyll and Hyde. Nick replied that he is in the process of writing that too. Wasn't it supposed to be a recording of the play version Nick wrote? Or was it always going to be adapted? I mean I guess it's good to know that it's still a thing but I think we can call it a part of development hell. I took it to mean he was writing an adaption of the play version he wrote. It's nice to know this is still going ahead - nicer still if we had a release date!
(As an aside, he also mentioned writing more Dalek Empire.)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 14:44:24 GMT
Wasn't it supposed to be a recording of the play version Nick wrote? Or was it always going to be adapted? I mean I guess it's good to know that it's still a thing but I think we can call it a part of development hell. I took it to mean he was writing an adaption of the play version he wrote. It's nice to know this is still going ahead - nicer still if we had a release date!
(As an aside, he also mentioned writing more Dalek Empire.)
In the process of writing it? STILL?
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Post by newt5996 on Jul 4, 2019 18:26:56 GMT
I took it to mean he was writing an adaption of the play version he wrote. It's nice to know this is still going ahead - nicer still if we had a release date!
(As an aside, he also mentioned writing more Dalek Empire.)
In the process of writing it? STILL? To play Devil's Advocate Briggs does write a LOT and you don't know what's going on in his head. Remember Briggs is responsible for directing several Big Finish projects, is probably involved with Series 12 of Doctor Who considering the Judoon are back and who knows what else, he's obviously writing other things as well, and he's got a family. He could easily have writer's block, have had other projects he had to prioritize, or even been told by superiors at Big Finish to put other things first. Sure the promotion of this release has been a fiasco on Big Finish's part, but give him a little bit of a break.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 19:13:36 GMT
In the process of writing it? STILL? To play Devil's Advocate Briggs does write a LOT and you don't know what's going on in his head. Remember Briggs is responsible for directing several Big Finish projects, is probably involved with Series 12 of Doctor Who considering the Judoon are back and who knows what else, he's obviously writing other things as well, and he's got a family. He could easily have writer's block, have had other projects he had to prioritize, or even been told by superiors at Big Finish to put other things first. Sure the promotion of this release has been a fiasco on Big Finish's part, but give him a little bit of a break. You really are playing devil's advocate. Give him a break! Go back & look at the date of the first post in this thread & the original release date. This is very bad. He's had enough of a break.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jul 4, 2019 19:52:35 GMT
To play Devil's Advocate Briggs does write a LOT and you don't know what's going on in his head. Remember Briggs is responsible for directing several Big Finish projects, is probably involved with Series 12 of Doctor Who considering the Judoon are back and who knows what else, he's obviously writing other things as well, and he's got a family. He could easily have writer's block, have had other projects he had to prioritize, or even been told by superiors at Big Finish to put other things first. Sure the promotion of this release has been a fiasco on Big Finish's part, but give him a little bit of a break. You really are playing devil's advocate. Give him a break! Go back & look at the date of the first post in this thread & the original release date. This is very bad. He's had enough of a break. I'd agree. There is cutting Nick some slack and then there is Jekyll & Hyde. Over three years since it was announced and pushed back on the schedule several times and then off the schedule.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Jul 4, 2019 20:15:44 GMT
You really are playing devil's advocate. Give him a break! Go back & look at the date of the first post in this thread & the original release date. This is very bad. He's had enough of a break. I'd agree. There is cutting Nick some slack and then there is Jekyll & Hyde. Over three years since it was announced and pushed back on the schedule several times and then off the schedule. Don't forget this is not the only project he is writing which has been "delayed". Personally, I think it is past time that Jason steps in and forces Nick to either cancel some of these projects, or have someone else take them over. Clearly he is too busy and needs to take a step back.
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Post by xlozdob on Jul 4, 2019 20:58:30 GMT
Or, alternatively, they shouldn't have jumped the gun and announced it before it was ready (at least the script). That's precisely why they don't announce things until they're in the can these days.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 21:04:09 GMT
In the process of writing it? STILL? To play Devil's Advocate Briggs does write a LOT and you don't know what's going on in his head. Remember Briggs is responsible for directing several Big Finish projects, is probably involved with Series 12 of Doctor Who considering the Judoon are back and who knows what else, he's obviously writing other things as well, and he's got a family. He could easily have writer's block, have had other projects he had to prioritize, or even been told by superiors at Big Finish to put other things first. Sure the promotion of this release has been a fiasco on Big Finish's part, but give him a little bit of a break. I agree with the sentiment but it's not a one-off. It's a recurring issue and I'm not sure a lot of people buying and paying up front for certain titles from Big Finish would be too happy to be told commitments to the BBC and family lives - which we all have - are causing delays to what they've coughed up for. Writer's block can happen, sure, but this isn't a novelist working on their next opus who can be indulged, there's an element of the factory line to Big Finish with releases coming more than weekly. Terrance Dicks once said he was asked back by Target not because of his prose but because of his deadline keeping. No-one has even mentioned the Charlotte Pollard delay issues either which affected Vol 2 and Vol 3. I think people will notice it's not the bread and butter of the Doctor Who releases that seem to suffer when these things are delayed, it's the Interference, the Prisoner or the Jekyll & Hyde. At some point I think it's hard to escape the conclusion....it's too much of a workload when you're years behind. To play devil's advocate back...I think sometimes we can be prone to forget...we're customers. We pay BF for their goods and products. If I bought and paid for a book or bluray then got told it would be delayed for a year or more I'd certainly be wanting my money back to re-order later.
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Post by lidar2 on Jul 5, 2019 8:07:53 GMT
Jul 4, 2019 21:15:44 GMT 1 coffeeaddict said: Don't forget this is not the only project he is writing which has been "delayed". Personally, I think it is past time that Jason steps in and forces Nick to either cancel some of these projects, or have someone else take them over. Clearly he is too busy and needs to take a step back. Jul 4, 2019 21:58:30 GMT 1 xlozdob said: Or, alternatively, they shouldn't have jumped the gun and announced it before it was ready (at least the script). That's precisely why they don't announce things until they're in the can these days. I think you are both 100% right.
Why did they break with their normal policy to announce (and take pre-orders) on something at such an early stage of development? And then why hasn't Jason subsequently stepped in to sort the situation that has arisen?
A totally avoidable own-goal
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Post by ljwilson on Jul 13, 2019 8:22:39 GMT
A simple solution. Just ask for your money back, which is what would happen if it was any other company.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 17:56:52 GMT
A simple solution. Just ask for your money back, which is what would happen if it was any other company. Has anyone done this?
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Post by Ela on Jul 31, 2019 19:02:41 GMT
I don't know if anyone has asked for a refund, but Nick has mentioned in the past that one could do that on this release, due to the excessive delay, if I recall correctly. It may even be mentioned somewhere in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 15:04:29 GMT
A simple solution. Just ask for your money back, which is what would happen if it was any other company. Has anyone done this? I haven't asked for a refund because I really want to hear this. BF do a great job with their horror range, and Jekyll and Hyde is a favourite story of mine. I can't help but feel if BF refunded money for this delay, there would be even less chance of it being made at all. Still, the news that Nick's been working on Space 1999 seems to indicate that refunds or not, J&H is far from a priority anyway. Annoyed me a bit, that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 19:21:22 GMT
On the website it says "This brand new audio production is adapted from the 2016 touring stage production adapted and directed by Nicholas Briggs:"
That infers that it has already been done? If so why not released yet?
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Post by denyer97 on Jun 26, 2020 10:03:59 GMT
At this point I’m just finding it a little bit disrespectful to loyal listeners and people who pre ordered this like myself in good faith that it would eventually arrive, that there has still been now news on this and yet Nick Briggs has presumably already locked down scripts or at least outlines for Human Frontier Series 2.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jun 26, 2020 11:50:13 GMT
At this point I’m just finding it a little bit disrespectful to loyal listeners and people who pre ordered this like myself in good faith that it would eventually arrive, that there has still been now news on this and yet Nick Briggs has presumably already locked down scripts or at least outlines for Human Frontier Series 2. So how long exactly has it been? & BF have not offered any refunds?
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Post by Whovitt on Jun 26, 2020 12:25:45 GMT
At this point I’m just finding it a little bit disrespectful to loyal listeners and people who pre ordered this like myself in good faith that it would eventually arrive, that there has still been now news on this and yet Nick Briggs has presumably already locked down scripts or at least outlines for Human Frontier Series 2. So how long exactly has it been? & BF have not offered any refunds? Refunds have always been available - just e-mail sales and they'll organise a refund for you. They're not giving automatic refunds for the product as they still "intend" to make. How long that will be is totally unknown, but so long as they have the "intent" then they aren't going to refund people. But the individual customer has been able to get a refund from pretty much the moment they placed the order (if they wanted to).
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jun 26, 2020 12:44:17 GMT
So how long exactly has it been? & BF have not offered any refunds? Refunds have always been available - just e-mail sales and they'll organise a refund for you. They're not giving automatic refunds for the product as they still "intend" to make. How long that will be is totally unknown, but so long as they have the "intent" then they aren't going to refund people. But the individual customer has been able to get a refund from pretty much the moment they placed the order (if they wanted to). Exactly. Yes the delays on this release have long moved past the point of absurdity and we are at the point where anyone would have to be foolish to preorder a non Who release written by Nick and expect it to come out on time but Big Finish are not thieves or swindlers.
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Post by johnhurtdoctor on Jun 26, 2020 13:24:17 GMT
So how long exactly has it been? & BF have not offered any refunds? Refunds have always been available - just e-mail sales and they'll organise a refund for you. They're not giving automatic refunds for the product as they still "intend" to make. How long that will be is totally unknown, but so long as they have the "intent" then they aren't going to refund people. But the individual customer has been able to get a refund from pretty much the moment they placed the order (if they wanted to). I see. Interesting. Still thing there should be some official announcement/update on this. But Nick is content to focus on his vanity project.
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Post by mark687 on Sept 4, 2020 13:54:26 GMT
Considering its an Adaption of his own Stage Script...
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