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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 13, 2016 14:19:48 GMT
I thought this would be a pretty interesting question to ask. I was wondering what TV shows that you watch or have watched (if they haven't been repeated of course) , would you like to see remade for today's audiences.
My one previso is that any show you recommend for remaking must have been made and first shown pre-2000
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 23:08:01 GMT
Hmmm.
I'd need to think on it, but off the top of my head, I think this generation could use a good faithful remake (or adaptation, more accurately) of The Box Of Delights. I think the original is magical still but it never gets repeated when it deserves to be a perennial Christmas fave.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on May 13, 2016 23:34:42 GMT
The Professionals. And, a one off Lovejoy and Bergerac for Christmas.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on May 14, 2016 8:27:20 GMT
I want to see a new version of Bullseye. Dermot O Leary would make a good presenter for it.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 10:31:23 GMT
I think the current generation REALLY needs a new Buffy. Something to tell girls that relationships aren't everything.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on May 14, 2016 12:58:53 GMT
Myself, i'd love to see a remake of War of the Worlds tv series (1988-90).
Could be really could with a decent budget and not a change of direction halfway through
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 14:22:47 GMT
I think the current generation REALLY needs a new Buffy. Something to tell girls that relationships aren't everything. For me personally, I think we should just make it mandatory to make every teen watch the original Buffy. At least, that's #34 on my to do list if I could rule the world. #1 is to give Big Finish the Doctor Who license until the end of the world!
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Post by acousticwolf on May 14, 2016 15:12:16 GMT
I think the current generation REALLY needs a new Buffy. Something to tell girls that relationships aren't everything. For me personally, I think we should just make it mandatory to make every teen watch the original Buffy. At least, that's #34 on my to do list if I could rule the world. #1 is to give Big Finish the Doctor Who license until the end of the world! We tried to do that but our 13 year old couldn't get past the make-up. Kids today... Cheers Tony
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Post by jasonward on May 14, 2016 23:34:00 GMT
What's the big deal about Buffy?
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Post by omega on May 14, 2016 23:54:51 GMT
I think the current generation REALLY needs a new Buffy. Something to tell girls that relationships aren't everything. For me personally, I think we should just make it mandatory to make every teen watch the original Buffy. At least, that's #34 on my to do list if I could rule the world. #1 is to give Big Finish the Doctor Who license until the end of the world! And use the season 6 Willow arc as a "don't do drugs" PSA.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 0:23:10 GMT
I wouldn't remake Buffy. It's seminal 90s tv. One of the first shows to set up the big-bad formula that almost all geek culture shows use now. 90s sci-fi and fantasy from the US was by 1997 painfully worthy and sombre. Trek, Babylon 5, Sliders, Stargate...all good shows (Great in Trek's case) but lacking in pure fun and escapist enjoyment. Then Joss Wheddon came along with his tv version of his failed Buffy movie from 1992. It had no right to be as good as it was straight off the bat - it was sassy and funny at a times where teens were only depicted as the morons of Clueless or Dawson's Creek. Buffy and Angel managed to be a couple that sparked fan devotion without "just" being - a la Twilight - about their romance. I was a teen at the time and it galvanised a lot of people my age who would never normally watch one of "our" shows. It got girls out to cons a lot more. Our hero was a kick ass young woman, but she was also a teen that felt like one. Compare that with, say, Ace which was a middle-class BBC version of what "yoof" was. No-ones ever known an Ace, but we - certainly as a 90s kid - all knew a Xander, an Oz and a Willow. It's not for nothing that RTD's pitch of Who to the BBC in 2003 was mostly "it's Doctor Who like you remember, but filtered through Buffy". With that in mind, it's very easy to imagine Rose in Sunnydale or Willow meeting Tennant. What SHOULD happen to Buffy though is some remastering work. The first season looks horrendous on DVD. The early X-Files used to look just as bad on disc but the bluray remaster make it look glorious from Day 1. Would love that for Buffy. Wouldn't be opposed to "Slayer: The Next Generation" though
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 0:33:37 GMT
One thing about the 2005 revival of Who is that while for fans it is a continuation for the past 26 series, to the pubic at large it was essentially a remake. It wasn't "like" Doctor Who had been in the folk memory. Indeed, RTD's decision to not mention past Doctors and companions for a good few years made it quite a popular fantheory a decade ago that this wasn't the same show. It wasn't untill we got things like the pictures in John Smith's diary and the Cyber-images in The Next Doctor that the theories were 100% negated. By that time the show didn't need to worry about alienating newbies as it had a few years of success behind it. Now, of course, Moffat sticks in old Doctor references just about every year.
Also, look at the JJ Abram's Star Trek movies. They decided to make it a reboot from a sequel, which is fascinating. Spock, the same version we had known and loved for 43 years, travels back in time and changes the timeline - so we follow the alternate timeline without negating the "original" timeline where decades of love for the "old stuff" resides.
I wonder what other beloved shows might be "remade" like this, where you're changing the tone, style, format but not negating what went before. It seems to be the smart move when dealing with rebooting a major, beloved property to both gain a new audience without all the baggage of continuity, but also appease the fanbase.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 0:47:20 GMT
What's the big deal about Buffy? Arguably one of the best TV series ever made. While decidely never unproblematic (the Thanksgiving episode is a whole lot of ugh and Buffy's relationship with Angel was incredibly counter productive to the show). It gave girls a strong three dimensional reletable protraganist who was flawed and human and that it was okay to be with all the vunerability of a sixteen year old with the fate of the world unfairly residing on her shoulders and an epic emotional journey usually reserved for male characters. The rest of the assemble being just as layed that you couldn't help but fall in love with (except for Xander) and watch grow. It reversed tropes (such as 'the alleged nice guy trying to win over the girl who isn't intrested and uncovered all the ugly entitlement underneath) which needed to be called out on. While it celeberated geek culture, it was never afraid to call out it's misgony and other issues inherent in fandom. Joss and the other writers knew the pain and confusion and general state of adolsensence and never wrote down to it's audience or challenge it's audience. It showcased the joys and hurts of adulthood just as well. It had twists and turns you never saw coming. It protrayed a gay relationship being just as loving, multi-faceted and challenging as a heterosexual relationship. The show was hillarious and the writers knew, pushing it further and further and never failing to one up themselves episode after next. The show nailed that comic book feel down, with all the fevour of a geek excited to add to (and challenge) the superhero landscape. It was fun, nailing that comic book feeling down so well with all the fevour of a geek excited to add to (and challenge) the superhero landscape. It's still to my mind, Whedon's best work. Firefly might have been more polished ( although I'll never get Joss Whedon's reasoning with The Reavers and why he felt he needed to bring in THAT aspect of the Wild West ), but it never matched Buffy's spark and intensity.
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Post by jasonward on May 15, 2016 9:42:15 GMT
OK - it's clear that I was too old at the time to pick up on the resonance others feel with Buffy, it was a show that never really grabbed my interest, if it was on I would watch it, and I had mates who really loved it, but it didn't take long to realise that their primary interest was Buffy made good eye candy. Compare that with, say, Ace which was a middle-class BBC version of what "yoof" was. No-ones ever known an Ace Really? Apart from the explosives and the travelling with the Doctor, she reminds me very strongly of a quite damaged yet rebellious young woman at my school, Ace isn't as moody as she was, but I'm thinking a lot of teenage moody doesn't really help a story move along.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 11:04:27 GMT
Compare that with, say, Ace which was a middle-class BBC version of what "yoof" was. No-ones ever known an Ace Really? Apart from the explosives and the travelling with the Doctor, she reminds me very strongly of a quite damaged yet rebellious young woman at my school, Ace isn't as moody as she was, but I'm thinking a lot of teenage moody doesn't really help a story move along. Same here, albeit in high school and she reminded me more and more of the battle-scarred Ace who came back from Spacefleet in the NAs than the one on television. I reckon K9 and Company could have had another go in the Wilderness Years with a more fleshed out general premise. I'm almost tempted to say The X-Files with a tin dog, but I'm certain there are other things you can do with that particular setup.
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