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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jul 5, 2016 11:47:43 GMT
Why not? There could be a story that was good but didn't get anywhere the first time round because a better one was submitted. Granted, there could be a story that was terrible that didn't get anywhere because it was bad. But if someone feels that strongly about a story, surely to push it is a good thing rather than to give in because it didn't win the first time? Doing the same thing tends to lead to the same result. Particularly when the chances of success are less than 1%. It's simple maths. For 99% of people, if not 100%, resubmitting would mean another rejection - and if there's a limit to the amount of stories you can submit, that might mean your sole chance for that year gone. Whilst self-belief is a useful thing for a writer, you have to persuade other people to believe in you. In my experience of various writing comps, the best response to rejection is to accept that the submission wasn't quite right and look to improve on it the next time. Listen to the winner and try to work out what they did that works. Be honest about the flaws in your own submission, etc. Thanks for the advice. Would you say taking the initial concept and rewriting it would work?
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Post by dorney on Jul 5, 2016 12:10:44 GMT
Doing the same thing tends to lead to the same result. Particularly when the chances of success are less than 1%. It's simple maths. For 99% of people, if not 100%, resubmitting would mean another rejection - and if there's a limit to the amount of stories you can submit, that might mean your sole chance for that year gone. Whilst self-belief is a useful thing for a writer, you have to persuade other people to believe in you. In my experience of various writing comps, the best response to rejection is to accept that the submission wasn't quite right and look to improve on it the next time. Listen to the winner and try to work out what they did that works. Be honest about the flaws in your own submission, etc. Thanks for the advice. Would you say taking the initial concept and rewriting it would work? Well, I don't know the initial concept so it depends. Possibly. Still strikes me as a big risk, to be honest. After all, unless you get feedback indicating otherwise, it might be the concept that was the problem! If you do really believe in the idea, my advice would be to save it for another time - pop it in the bottom drawer writers often talk about. Pitch a new idea you love, and then if it wins you might have a chance to dust the older one off another time.
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jul 5, 2016 12:49:20 GMT
I think the biggest question is who sent the email with 11 entries attached! Not me... I topped out at 5. My note book still has lots in there though.
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Post by constonks on Jul 5, 2016 17:48:02 GMT
Got my own runners-up email which was really quite nice. I'll probably adapt both stories for my own series of stuff, and in the meantime, store away new Doctor Who ideas for next year!
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Post by seeley on Jul 5, 2016 18:57:11 GMT
Why not? There could be a story that was good but didn't get anywhere the first time round because a better one was submitted. Granted, there could be a story that was terrible that didn't get anywhere because it was bad. But if someone feels that strongly about a story, surely to push it is a good thing rather than to give in because it didn't win the first time? Doing the same thing tends to lead to the same result. Particularly when the chances of success are less than 1%. It's simple maths. For 99% of people, if not 100%, resubmitting would mean another rejection - and if there's a limit to the amount of stories you can submit, that might mean your sole chance for that year gone. Whilst self-belief is a useful thing for a writer, you have to persuade other people to believe in you. In my experience of various writing comps, the best response to rejection is to accept that the submission wasn't quite right and look to improve on it the next time. Listen to the winner and try to work out what they did that works. Be honest about the flaws in your own submission, etc. Of course, one could try to revise one's previous entry, if one thought that it really wasn't properly realized, but we're talking about two pages of five-hundred words each here, and there's still the risk of Ian/whoever thinking "Ho-hum, I've seen this before." Personally, I'm less than happy with the two entries I did manage to get in (poor health is not conducive to creative writing,) but I've no intention of revising them for next year. I want variety, and I'm sure sure Ian does too. Besides, I doubt any of us managed to write down all the ideas he came up with.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 19:02:27 GMT
Yeah, one thing I've always been told when submitting work is to not submit the same piece to the same person twice. If they rejected it once they had a reason, show your range with any later submissions.
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Post by chrisscorkscrew on Jul 6, 2016 7:33:21 GMT
Got my own runners-up email which was really quite nice. I'll probably adapt both stories for my own series of stuff, and in the meantime, store away new Doctor Who ideas for next year! Congratulations for standing out of the crowd. It sounds like you impressed the BF team so best of luck for next year! Chriss C.
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jul 6, 2016 10:56:47 GMT
Got my own runners-up email which was really quite nice. I'll probably adapt both stories for my own series of stuff, and in the meantime, store away new Doctor Who ideas for next year! Congratulations
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Post by zygonmax on Jul 10, 2016 7:44:36 GMT
Has anyone gotten a reply recently? Or should we assume the winner has been contacted?
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Post by chrisscorkscrew on Jul 10, 2016 8:49:43 GMT
Has anyone gotten a reply recently? Or should we assume the winner has been contacted? They said they'd likely be contacting the winner towards the end of this coming week, so unless there are any announcements I reckon we can all keep hoping until 18th July... *fingers still crossed*
Chriss C.
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Post by zygonmax on Jul 10, 2016 9:19:10 GMT
Oh and here I was thinking that meant this week and I was all out of luck.
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Post by chrisscorkscrew on Jul 10, 2016 10:01:58 GMT
Oh and here I was thinking that meant this week and I was all out of luck. In the podcast Ian said, "hopefully by the end of next week, we will be approaching the winner." And that was Monday 4th July.
Chriss C.
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Post by dorney on Jul 10, 2016 11:43:16 GMT
Oh and here I was thinking that meant this week and I was all out of luck. In the podcast Ian said, "hopefully by the end of next week, we will be approaching the winner." And that was Monday 4th July.
Chriss C.
Of course, that does depend when that was recorded. I say this as someone who has no idea of any of the progress!
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Post by zygonmax on Jul 10, 2016 11:53:01 GMT
In the podcast Ian said, "hopefully by the end of next week, we will be approaching the winner." And that was Monday 4th July.
Chriss C.
Of course, that does depend when that was recorded. I say this as someone who has no idea of any of the progress! Good point. Maybe we'll get an update? I'd tweet at them if I didn't think they were most likely too busy to respond and also wasn't lacking a twitter account in the first place.
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Post by chrisscorkscrew on Jul 10, 2016 13:28:14 GMT
Of course, that does depend when that was recorded. I say this as someone who has no idea of any of the progress! Good point. Maybe we'll get an update? I'd tweet at them if I didn't think they were most likely too busy to respond and also wasn't lacking a twitter account in the first place. Going by the context of what Ian was saying in terms of all the entries having been read and some people being contacted (and a small boy being present at the podcast!), I'd surmise that the interview was conducted some time last weekend, so I'll keep holding on to my hope that 'the end of next week' is the end of this week... if that makes sense.
Hey, gotta keep hoping!
Chriss C.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2016 17:25:05 GMT
A few pages back there was some discussion about maybe posting our ideas which didn't win.
Does anyone else still have plans to share their entries on here once the winner has been announced?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jul 10, 2016 19:49:07 GMT
A few pages back there was some discussion about maybe posting our ideas which didn't win. Does anyone else still have plans to share their entries on here once the winner has been announced? I'll share mine because the most I'll do with it next time is use it as a springboard for a similar if completely different idea.
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jul 11, 2016 5:23:38 GMT
Living in hope Living in denial Living in hope Living in denial
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Post by chrisscorkscrew on Jul 11, 2016 11:41:40 GMT
A few pages back there was some discussion about maybe posting our ideas which didn't win. Does anyone else still have plans to share their entries on here once the winner has been announced? To be honest, I probably wouldn't share online as I still hope to publish the story in some form someday (such as a short story competition). If someone asked to read my (completed) story offline though, I'd probably be more amenable to sharing. Chriss C.
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jul 12, 2016 16:08:27 GMT
Still...
Living in hope Living in denial Living in hope Living in denial
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