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Post by mark687 on Aug 16, 2016 13:29:23 GMT
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Post by Tony Jones on Aug 16, 2016 14:06:06 GMT
I'm 1/2 way through - grim and impressive
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Post by Zagreus on Aug 16, 2016 16:27:40 GMT
I'm marathoning Ordeals and Judgement before getting to this, with Mariner and His Last Bow placed where appropriate.
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Post by elkawho on Aug 16, 2016 21:57:02 GMT
I have listened to The Perfidious Mariner but not the following two boxsets. Will this be a problem for me if I try to listen to this set? (I've already heard Prophet In The Rain.)
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Post by coffeeaddict on Aug 16, 2016 21:59:34 GMT
Enjoyed this set, I think it was much stronger than their previous boxes.
I'm covered in fur as the cat kept me trapped on the couch for most of it.
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Post by ryan on Aug 16, 2016 22:13:03 GMT
I have listened to The Perfidious Mariner but not the following two boxsets. Will this be a problem for me if I try to listen to this set? (I've already heard Prophet In The Rain.) I think if you've already heard Prophet In The Rain and don't feel too lost then you might be okay, but Judgement sets up the Society arc and shows why they have very personal connections to both Holmes and Watson. Personally, I would start from there. Happy listening!
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Post by elkawho on Aug 17, 2016 1:57:50 GMT
I have listened to The Perfidious Mariner but not the following two boxsets. Will this be a problem for me if I try to listen to this set? (I've already heard Prophet In The Rain.) I think if you've already heard Prophet In The Rain and don't feel too lost then you might be okay, but Judgement sets up the Society arc and shows why they have very personal connections to both Holmes and Watson. Personally, I would start from there. Happy listening! Thanks!
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Post by pawntake on Aug 17, 2016 6:54:25 GMT
I'm marathoning Ordeals and Judgement before getting to this, with Mariner and His Last Bow placed where appropriate. BF haven't done "His last bow" Do you mean "The Final Problem"/"The Empty House" Or were you just referring to the original short stories?
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Post by Zagreus on Aug 17, 2016 7:05:24 GMT
I'm marathoning Ordeals and Judgement before getting to this, with Mariner and His Last Bow placed where appropriate. BF haven't done "His last bow" Do you mean "The Final Problem"/"The Empty House" Or were you just referring to the original short stories? I was referring to the BBC Radio adaption of His Last Bow.
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Post by mbt66 on Aug 17, 2016 9:10:43 GMT
BF haven't done "His last bow" Do you mean "The Final Problem"/"The Empty House" Or were you just referring to the original short stories? I was referring to the BBC Radio adaption of His Last Bow. I have already re-listened it all the Briggs and Earl - Sherlock and Watson adventures in readiness for the Sacrifice box set. After hearing The Perfidious Mariner I too listened to the BBC Clive Merrison version of The Last Bow. Although I am generally not keen on Big Finish adapting the original short stories The Last Bow is something that I would like them to tackle especially if they then continued Holmes story - The Great War Detective!
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Post by Zagreus on Aug 17, 2016 16:21:50 GMT
Finished up the first episode. I'm fairly certain I should recognize the name Tallow from some prior release, but I admit it's escaping me at the moment.
Mulling it over at the moment. BF inserting the fantastical in to the Holmes corpus again. I'm not entirely against that, mind, but I feel it needs to be done properly. I find it ironic that Tracey Childs has now played two characters tangentially associated with werewolves, the other being over in The Confessions of Dorian Gray.
I had intended to marathon Ordeals and Judgement before jumping into this but only made it a few episodes in before curiosity got the better of me and I went ahead with Sacrifice. Now that I've listened to the first episode, I feel I'm missing some important context, and will probably go back to my original plan and listen to the prior sets again before continuing.
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Post by Zagreus on Aug 18, 2016 2:52:41 GMT
SO I've finished up now. I'm... not sure how I feel. I liked the ending well enough, but the events preceding it I'm not quite sure about. having the villain be Wiggins, seemed to come a bit out of nowhere. For a while, I thought it was going to end up being Lestrade, having actually survived the events of Ordeals and been twisted into insane villainy by The Society in secret, blaming Holmes for his misfortunes. It would have, to my mind, done more to tie the set into Ordeals in addition to Judgement, as Mrs Curbishley feels more just a recurring villain putting in an appearance, having originated in Perfidious Mariner, and only playing a tangential role in Ordeals.
Which brings us to the matter of Moriarty. I'm basically just disappointed in the bringing back of this character, even if there's an element of "well it's not really him, is it? maybe?" Bringing back Moriarty in any form just seems lazy to me.
The Circe virus puts me in the mind of the experiments being carried out by the good doctor in The Immortal Game, over in The Confessions of Dorian Gray. I was otherwise sort of meh on it, as it basically just served as a background threat, and didn't really come much into play. It could very well have just been a generic plague.
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Post by Tony Jones on Aug 22, 2016 10:16:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 11:07:56 GMT
I really enjoyed this. It was a very fitting climax to the preseeding boxsets. There was a lot of references to Holmes' age - I think that works well, seeing him as a slightly less confident old man who fears his abilities may be failing him. The extras sound fairly hopeful of more Sherlock boxsets - I really hope there are.
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Post by mbt66 on Aug 24, 2016 18:37:35 GMT
SO I've finished up now. I'm... not sure how I feel. I liked the ending well enough, but the events preceding it I'm not quite sure about. having the villain be Wiggins, seemed to come a bit out of nowhere. For a while, I thought it was going to end up being Lestrade, having actually survived the events of Ordeals and been twisted into insane villainy by The Society in secret, blaming Holmes for his misfortunes. It would have, to my mind, done more to tie the set into Ordeals in addition to Judgement, as Mrs Curbishley feels more just a recurring villain putting in an appearance, having originated in Perfidious Mariner, and only playing a tangential role in Ordeals.
Which brings us to the matter of Moriarty. I'm basically just disappointed in the bringing back of this character, even if there's an element of "well it's not really him, is it? maybe?" Bringing back Moriarty in any form just seems lazy to me.
The Circe virus puts me in the mind of the experiments being carried out by the good doctor in The Immortal Game, over in The Confessions of Dorian Gray. I was otherwise sort of meh on it, as it basically just served as a background threat, and didn't really come much into play. It could very well have just been a generic plague. I mostly agree with your assessment. Although I did like the overall villain and appreciate that it was left unclear, however... *** SPOILERS *** The biggest problem I had was with the virus transformation. If this was Jago & Litefoot I would have no issue, but for me Sherlock does not inhabit such a fantastical world. Also right up until the end I thought that Elenor would be an agent of the Society - that's not a criticism - but what is, was that we still do not know the full name of the Society or what they truly stand for...howver that criticism will disappear when Big Finish announce the next box-set!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2016 18:46:49 GMT
SO I've finished up now. I'm... not sure how I feel. I liked the ending well enough, but the events preceding it I'm not quite sure about. having the villain be Wiggins, seemed to come a bit out of nowhere. For a while, I thought it was going to end up being Lestrade, having actually survived the events of Ordeals and been twisted into insane villainy by The Society in secret, blaming Holmes for his misfortunes. It would have, to my mind, done more to tie the set into Ordeals in addition to Judgement, as Mrs Curbishley feels more just a recurring villain putting in an appearance, having originated in Perfidious Mariner, and only playing a tangential role in Ordeals.
Which brings us to the matter of Moriarty. I'm basically just disappointed in the bringing back of this character, even if there's an element of "well it's not really him, is it? maybe?" Bringing back Moriarty in any form just seems lazy to me.
The Circe virus puts me in the mind of the experiments being carried out by the good doctor in The Immortal Game, over in The Confessions of Dorian Gray. I was otherwise sort of meh on it, as it basically just served as a background threat, and didn't really come much into play. It could very well have just been a generic plague. I mostly agree with your assessment. Although I did like the overall villain and appreciate that it was left unclear, however... *** SPOILERS *** The biggest problem I had was with the virus transformation. If this was Jago & Litefoot I would have no issue, but for me Sherlock does not inhabit such a fantastical world. Also right up until the end I thought that Elenor would be an agent of the Society - that's not a criticism - but what is, was that we still do not know the full name of the Society or what they truly stand for...howver that criticism will disappear when Big Finish announce the next box-set! Perhaps the Society's motives and demands are, like the greatest threats to humanity - both fictional and otherwise - muggy. They want power, notoriety. I like it that they are (still) enigmatic. And I hope another box-set is forthcoming. If so, do we want more from this story-strand, or would we like to see other aspects and moments from Holmes and Watson's lives? I'd like to see a (possibly temporary) move to unrelated cases, a return to the mix of Conan Doyle's originals and new Big Finish stories. But most of all, I would like for Sherlock Holmes to have a future with BF.
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Post by Zagreus on Aug 24, 2016 19:27:24 GMT
I want a set during the time period of His Last Bow (and including that story). Seeing Curbishley and Von Bork during the war, maybe even seeing some soldiers bolstered by the Despair Drug, tying back in to Ordeals, or possible some Circe soldiers in action, from an earlier form of the serum. We could mayhaps also seeing some Society stuff behind the scenes, and possibly even what Vivienne was up to! Would be a nice little tie-in for all three sets thus far.
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Post by kfbate on Aug 28, 2016 8:04:01 GMT
I rather enjoyed this, but I have with most of the Sherlock releases, I take on board the point raised by Gallifreyan, that the fantastical story point and Holmes are a very strange mix, and it has to be handled with care. I think the listener needs to decide, I do sort of fall on the side of the leave it out. But I think that this is down to the individual. Good point as well about the Jago and Litefoot element, I caught myself wondering if a Jago & Litefoot/Holmes/Who mashup would be like, that might be a rather interesting listen
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Post by ljwilson on Aug 28, 2016 10:07:23 GMT
Ive finished The prophet in the rain and it was excellent.
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Post by kfbate on Aug 28, 2016 12:50:35 GMT
Question to anyone I dipped in and out of the BF Sherlock, are they chronological or self contained, as listening as I type this of the most recent release I sort of get the feeling that I need to re-listen to the last one.
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