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Post by coffeeaddict on Jun 20, 2016 17:16:37 GMT
I'd definitely enjoy a Me boxset! Personally I'd like to see her sometime in the centuries/lifetimes between when we first meet her as Ashildr and when she first shows up as "Me", because there are a lot of lifetimes that she lived and ways her character and personality presumably developed and changed in those years, which the TV episodes touched on briefly but didn't go into that much depth about. I'd certainly love to see her path to how she becomes, as liam notes, a little bit Master-like. She has a similar quality to Captain Jack in that she is immortal and outlives everyone, but unlike Jack she didn't end up in a place like Torchwood shortly after becoming immortal, and was left to develop more to her own devices as I understand it. So that's an interesting difference to explore. (Or, I wonder what would happen if those two met?) Read the book The Lengends of Ashildr - it looks at a few of her adventures after she was nano fixed.
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Post by fuurei on Jun 20, 2016 18:22:00 GMT
I'd definitely enjoy a Me boxset! Personally I'd like to see her sometime in the centuries/lifetimes between when we first meet her as Ashildr and when she first shows up as "Me", because there are a lot of lifetimes that she lived and ways her character and personality presumably developed and changed in those years, which the TV episodes touched on briefly but didn't go into that much depth about. I'd certainly love to see her path to how she becomes, as liam notes, a little bit Master-like. She has a similar quality to Captain Jack in that she is immortal and outlives everyone, but unlike Jack she didn't end up in a place like Torchwood shortly after becoming immortal, and was left to develop more to her own devices as I understand it. So that's an interesting difference to explore. (Or, I wonder what would happen if those two met?) Read the book The Lengends of Ashildr - it looks at a few of her adventures after she was nano fixed. Oh nice! I didn't know that existed, but I shall have to take a look.
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Post by SG. on Jun 22, 2016 1:58:54 GMT
4 hours of silence.
...what?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 5:07:39 GMT
4 hours of silence. ...what? They're already doing that with UNIT 3
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2016 12:28:30 GMT
Weirdly enough, I actually ended up writing out a pretty detailed pitch for a New Adventures style novella series with Ashildr but not Clara - the big reveal being that Ashildr had sold out Clara to the Timelords in return for her continued freedom. It was absolutely mired in continuity and probably the most self indulgent fanjodrell I've ever written, but I was quite pleased with it. I think on the first page alone it namechecked E-Space, Kalendorf, and the CIA.
Cast wise it had a a Compassion-esque sentient TARDIS, a Timelord, a time-sensitive alien squid and a seemingly random human who had dark secrets hidden inside her genetic code*.
*She'd been loomed to contain the secret location of a new Universe in her DNA.
I think I ended up with a three or four page 'series bible', but never really took it anywhere.
Did I mention it was fanjodrelly?
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Post by SG. on Jun 23, 2016 0:06:00 GMT
4 hours of silence. ...what? They're already doing that with UNIT 3 I forgot that was a thing.
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Post by Timelord007 on Jun 23, 2016 7:30:35 GMT
I'd write about how Ashildrs character never existed at all & her adventures took place in a dream like matrix adventure, the timelords have the Doctor & unknowingly to him is trapped inside the matrix.
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Post by aztec on Jun 23, 2016 17:57:25 GMT
I liked both characters alot, but not sure I could see this as feasible spin-off (let's be realistic here it would only end in Tears for both), though on the plus side I'd enjoy the reaction from the 'Clara is too much like the Doctor and full of herself' whingers...
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Post by Timelord007 on Jun 24, 2016 7:57:54 GMT
4 hours of silence. ...what? Lmao, good one mate.
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Post by TinDogPodcast on Jun 24, 2016 10:43:05 GMT
They travel back to yesterday and fix the vote...
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Post by christmastrenzalore on Jun 25, 2016 12:06:59 GMT
The only way I'd want something like this is if after decades of travelling together, Ashildr and Clara have become like an old married couple, who are kind of emotionally shackled together, but at the same time, they &%@*ing hate each-other's guts. And because they're both immortal, they're just super angry and aggressively violent towards each other all the time... Bottom. I want it to be like a Doctor Who version of Bottom. Clara can have a Sonic Frying Pan.
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Post by gallifreyimmigrant on Jul 21, 2016 21:41:19 GMT
All this negativity!
Hmm. A Clara and Me boxset should focus on how Clara's trying out the Doctor role, and how she adopts to that. Also, how Me is trying to become a good person, and learn how to care again. Clara would be the moral agent, while Me would struggle to deal with involving herself with the plights of people she's already outlived. And, of course, the temptation to change the past--and the side effects of doing so.
It really could have its own identity. A high-concept, cool series about immortality, life, death, and Jane Austen. I want it already!
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Post by agentten on Jul 21, 2016 21:55:44 GMT
All this negativity! Hmm. A Clara and Me boxset should focus on how Clara's trying out the Doctor role, and how she adopts to that. Also, how Me is trying to become a good person, and learn how to care again. Clara would be the moral agent, while Me would struggle to deal with involving herself with the plights of people she's already outlived. And, of course, the temptation to change the past--and the side effects of doing so. It really could have its own identity. A high-concept, cool series about immortality, life, death, and Jane Austen. I want it already! Well said. I'd definitely buy this series.
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Post by constonks on Aug 19, 2016 13:12:02 GMT
All this negativity! Hmm. A Clara and Me boxset should focus on how Clara's trying out the Doctor role, and how she adopts to that. Also, how Me is trying to become a good person, and learn how to care again. Clara would be the moral agent, while Me would struggle to deal with involving herself with the plights of people she's already outlived. And, of course, the temptation to change the past--and the side effects of doing so. It really could have its own identity. A high-concept, cool series about immortality, life, death, and Jane Austen. I want it already! Fair enough, that sounds pretty good.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Aug 19, 2016 13:18:06 GMT
They're already doing that with UNIT 3 I forgot that was a thing. Forgot What?
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Post by denyer97 on Aug 19, 2016 13:40:13 GMT
I forgot that was a thing. Forgot What? Here we go again
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Post by coffeeaddict on Aug 19, 2016 13:50:05 GMT
Wait, is this thread becoming a Whitesnake song??
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Post by fitzoliverj on Aug 20, 2016 16:24:02 GMT
Whatever box set Clara and Ashildr choose, let's hope they spend so much time on the couch watching it that they don't have any adventures ever again....
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Post by bobod on Aug 22, 2016 8:58:10 GMT
That's easy - just waggle his tail.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2016 9:51:15 GMT
It's difficult to come up with a premise that doesn't feel like Doctor Who with the serial numbers filed off like The Minister of Chance or Republica.
I'd like to see a story -- let's call it The Long Wake -- where it starts off with Clara being forcibly returned to the point of death, Ashildr having sold her out and departed Gallifrey and executed by the Time Lords. She's struck by the raven, screams in horrible agony and dies as any other person would. History resumes its natural course and life continues on Gallifrey as per usual, save one particular aspect -- a Time Lord technician haunted by the woman's scream who can't help but find himself getting involved with a CIA operative who uses his guilt for his own ends. The technician tugs on the thread offered to him and we get to see all the events that lead up to Clara's death over the course of the boxset as he researches her life. He becomes so deeply enwrapt in their adventures that it becomes an obsession, distracting his attention away from the man who is using him in some conspiracy to drastically affect the nature of Gallifrey itself. Consequently, he's forced to become a fugitive and use the records he's stolen to survive being terminated.
Maybe he ends up meeting Ashildr who wants nothing to do with him because she's come to realise she betrayed the only friend she could really hold onto? Maybe he becomes involved in the aftermath of one of their adventures?
The splinter of Clara from the twenty-first century is one of those characters who desperately needs a Big Finish overhaul to make her more appealing like what they did with Mel and, to a lesser extent, Peri. She's one of those unintentionally poisonous figures who always seems to be right, even if the universe has to bend over backwards to accommodate her. It's a terrible shame because Jenna Coleman is a fine actress, she was just never given a consistent character so much as a plot mechanism to play. I'm still a big fan of reconfiguring her to be an anti-villainous Kerr Avon type. It shouldn't be easy to have the character say: "You know what? Maybe I am a hypocrite but at the end of the day, only one of us will be alive and it's likely going to be me," and have it sound completely natural unless there's a buried dark streak there.
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