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Post by paulmorris7777 on Jun 14, 2016 17:30:02 GMT
-They didn't really have much choice but to postpone Series 10, Moffat and the crew were exhausted, Moffat had to work on Sherlock series 4 and help set up Class at the same time (whilst its' true RTD had a hand in Torchwood and the SJA he only wrote a handful of episodes of each and largely left the show in other producers hands), would you rather he further divided his time and increase his workload? it's not like the BBC have a backup experienced showrunner on call to parachute in a moments notice for a year... -Judging by the rumours/articles I've read over the years, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find it Chibnall was the only writer deem experienced enough by the BBC that actually wanted, and was able to commit to the job, Gattis and Harness have very limited showrunning experience, the BBC was hardly going to sign up an in-expereinced producer to a 3 or 4 year contract on one of it's biggest money makers, Chibnall ran Torchwood for two years already... Are you trying to tell me that from all the TV Producer in the UK, only Chibnall was suitable? What about the Producers from such shows as Foyles War? Happy Valley? The Crimson Field? or The Musketeers? None of them were suitaible? Now, before you have a go at me. Yes, Doctor Who is Sci-Fi, but its about the drama. You could probably have made The Crimson Field a Sci-Fi.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jun 14, 2016 18:07:01 GMT
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 14, 2016 18:18:07 GMT
Terrible choice of character to bring back. There are far more deserving characters who need to return before Nardole. How about Captain Jack, for instance? He was last in the show six years ago and long overdue a return.
Even if you don't take into account past recurring characters but people of similar status to Nardole (IE only appeared once), far more people have been crying out for a Shona or Perkins return than Nardole.
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Post by Timelord007 on Jun 14, 2016 18:39:12 GMT
OH NO! can the news get any worse.
a doctor I don't like, a Wisemouth teenager and an imbecile.
I want to be positive but head in hands moment here.
Mr Moffat is certainly making some bold choices for his final series.
What my mate muckypup as said, my faith is being tested on nuwho....is this a test lord? My excitement is swaying towards Big Finish audio than new series & after this announcement I'm expecting Kandyman to turn up & be a companion. Basically No, No & No. I'm off for a lie down & listen to The Dark Husband.
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Post by Timelord007 on Jun 14, 2016 18:40:36 GMT
Terrible choice of character to bring back. There are far more deserving characters who need to return before Nardole. How about Captain Jack, for instance? He was last in the show six years ago and long overdue a return. Even if you don't take into account past recurring characters but people of similar status to Nardole (IE only appeared once), far more people have been crying out for a Shona or Perkins return than Nardole. I agree Shona would've made a excellent companion, Doctor Who will be moved to CBBC on digital if it ain't careful.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 14, 2016 18:45:11 GMT
Terrible choice of character to bring back. There are far more deserving characters who need to return before Nardole. How about Captain Jack, for instance? He was last in the show six years ago and long overdue a return. Even if you don't take into account past recurring characters but people of similar status to Nardole (IE only appeared once), far more people have been crying out for a Shona or Perkins return than Nardole. I agree Shona would've made a excellent companion, Doctor Who will be moved to CBBC on digital if it ain't careful. I don't think there's any danger of the show moving from BBC1 but I do think they need to have a more appealing returning character in Series 10. It's crazy for the BBC to have people hyped up about a Jack return...then get this instead.
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Post by Timelord007 on Jun 14, 2016 18:50:21 GMT
I agree Shona would've made a excellent companion, Doctor Who will be moved to CBBC on digital if it ain't careful. I don't think there's any danger of the show moving from BBC1 but I do think they need to have a more appealing returning character in Series 10. It's crazy for the BBC to have people hyped up about a Jack return...then get this instead. I think it maybe scheduling with John Barrowman who's tied up on Arrow but surely something could be done, what i hearrd today literally fills me with dread to the point i feel numb towards the new series & coming from a fan who used to cycle 22 mile round trip to purchase the NA novels once a month from John McKenzies saying I'm losing interest & passion in a show I've loved for 36 years genuinely worrys me.
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Post by 8doctormcgann on Jun 14, 2016 19:47:48 GMT
I agree Shona would've made a excellent companion, Doctor Who will be moved to CBBC on digital if it ain't careful. I don't think there's any danger of the show moving from BBC1 but I do think they need to have a more appealing returning character in Series 10. It's crazy for the BBC to have people hyped up about a Jack return...then get this instead. Jack's return wasn't hyped by the bbc though... John Barrowman said he'd be in Cardiff, and it went from there via the fans.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jun 14, 2016 20:46:59 GMT
Terrible choice of character to bring back. There are far more deserving characters who need to return before Nardole. How about Captain Jack, for instance? He was last in the show six years ago and long overdue a return. Even if you don't take into account past recurring characters but people of similar status to Nardole (IE only appeared once), far more people have been crying out for a Shona or Perkins return than Nardole. I agree Shona would've made a excellent companion, Doctor Who will be moved to CBBC on digital if it ain't careful. Well, the actress is finished in Game of Thrones now, so maybe she is free...
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Post by liam on Jun 14, 2016 21:12:11 GMT
I too have reservations about this. I just find it a real strange casting. I don't think the character made that much of an impact in the Christmas special but maybe they'll change him up. But as someone mentioned before there was the hype of Danny Pink 'joining the TARDIS team' and he was just a background character.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 21:22:02 GMT
OH NO! can the news get any worse.
a doctor I don't like, a Wisemouth teenager and an imbecile.
I want to be positive but head in hands moment here.
Mr Moffat is certainly making some bold choices for his final series.
What my mate muckypup as said, my faith is being tested on nuwho....is this a test lord? My excitement is swaying towards Big Finish audio than new series & after this announcement I'm expecting Kandyman to turn up & be a companion. Basically No, No & No. I'm off for a lie down & listen to The Dark Husband. Weren't you going to stop watching last season anyway?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 21:24:27 GMT
You all know what I think of NuWho. I was never a fan of Catherine Tate, before DW, and I wasn't a fan of her during. The comedy in Partner In Crime was forced, awkward, and unfunny. I didn't like Donna - a loud mouth. They made her character another impossible companion by becoming Doctor Donna. Fine, they had her absorb all that information, but once extracted they said if she remembered she'd die. She did remember. And, should have died! I'm not a fan of Matt Lucas either. For a funny man, he's not funny. His last comedy was a flop. The DW character was annoying, and unfunny. Not looking good for series Short of cancelling the show, nothing would please you about it. Nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 21:27:03 GMT
If there were forums in the 60s, people would be saying "Why is Jamie joining the TARDIS? Of all the characters in The Highlanders he was the one who did the least. Totally pointless. Innes Llloyd is killing the show. He's got to go."
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jun 14, 2016 21:53:34 GMT
OH NO! can the news get any worse.
a doctor I don't like, a Wisemouth teenager and an imbecile.
I want to be positive but head in hands moment here.
Mr Moffat is certainly making some bold choices for his final series.
A Doctor I adore, a companion none us really know anything about and a one joke supporting character from a one-off special. For me that works out to two big question marks. I'm not overly concerned about Bill but yes, Nardole and Matt Lucas concern me but where this character goes now that the initial introduction has been made and how he fits into the new TARDIS dynamic is something that all of us will just have to approach with an open mind.
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Post by Timelord007 on Jun 14, 2016 21:56:55 GMT
What my mate muckypup as said, my faith is being tested on nuwho....is this a test lord? My excitement is swaying towards Big Finish audio than new series & after this announcement I'm expecting Kandyman to turn up & be a companion. Basically No, No & No. I'm off for a lie down & listen to The Dark Husband. Weren't you going to stop watching last season anyway? Never argue with a bipolar sufferer there likely to change there mind
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Post by Shiny on Jun 14, 2016 22:19:23 GMT
I really didn't like Nardole in the Husbands of River Song. He was the worst thing about the episode for me, so I have my reservations about this. I'm going to give the show the benefit of the doubt until the episodes he's in have aired, but my initial reaction is that this isn't a good sign.
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Post by muckypup on Jun 14, 2016 22:20:02 GMT
OH NO! can the news get any worse.
a doctor I don't like, a Wisemouth teenager and an imbecile.
I want to be positive but head in hands moment here.
Mr Moffat is certainly making some bold choices for his final series.
A Doctor I adore, a companion none us really know anything about and a one joke supporting character from a one-off special. For me that works out to two big question marks. I'm not overly concerned about Bill but yes, Nardole and Matt Lucas concern me but where this character goes now that the initial introduction has been made and how he fits into the new TARDIS dynamic is something that all of us will just have to approach with an open mind. An open mind....yes but I doubt I will ever like Matt Lucas in or out of Doctor who... I shudder with horror at the attempt he made at Mr Toad in the BBC's wind in the willows.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Jun 14, 2016 22:24:10 GMT
You all know what I think of NuWho. I was never a fan of Catherine Tate, before DW, and I wasn't a fan of her during. The comedy in Partner In Crime was forced, awkward, and unfunny. I didn't like Donna - a loud mouth. They made her character another impossible companion by becoming Doctor Donna. Fine, they had her absorb all that information, but once extracted they said if she remembered she'd die. She did remember. And, should have died! I'm not a fan of Matt Lucas either. For a funny man, he's not funny. His last comedy was a flop. The DW character was annoying, and unfunny. Not looking good for series Short of cancelling the show, nothing would please you about it. Nothing. Not at all. DW needs a complete rethink. The scripts are poor, and Capaldi and Missy have fans divided. Continually killing companions and bringing them back are a nonsense. A subtle performance from the right Doctor and Master could work wonders. A companion from a different time zone isn't asking much, and a break from visual effects and sonic devices would definitely help the narrative.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jun 14, 2016 22:53:05 GMT
Paul, when was the last time you liked something in the revived Who and what was it?
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jun 14, 2016 22:56:35 GMT
A Doctor I adore, a companion none us really know anything about and a one joke supporting character from a one-off special. For me that works out to two big question marks. I'm not overly concerned about Bill but yes, Nardole and Matt Lucas concern me but where this character goes now that the initial introduction has been made and how he fits into the new TARDIS dynamic is something that all of us will just have to approach with an open mind. An open mind....yes but I doubt I will ever like Matt Lucas in or out of Doctor who... I shudder with horror at the attempt he made at Mr Toad in the BBC's wind in the willows. I hear you. Matt Lucas does seem to be something of an acquired taste but I did think the same thing about Catherine Tate when she was announced as the new companion. I'm approaching this in the hopes of lighting striking twice.
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