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Post by paulmorris7777 on Jun 28, 2016 20:14:01 GMT
I mean, I'm pretty sure he doesn't just come into work with his black pants or his hoodie or whatever, and then they film him wearing his own clothes. If you want to complain about the costume (which is a pretty dumb complaint anyway), then don't blame Capaldi. Are you serious? Capaldi is the lead in a hugely successful show, and his costume is a mess. Capaldi is wearing the costumes, its Capadis costume! NO ONE is telling Capaldi what to wear, and what not to wear!
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Post by mark687 on Jun 28, 2016 20:22:39 GMT
I mean, I'm pretty sure he doesn't just come into work with his black pants or his hoodie or whatever, and then they film him wearing his own clothes. If you want to complain about the costume (which is a pretty dumb complaint anyway), then don't blame Capaldi. Are you serious? Capaldi is the lead in a hugely successful show, and his costume is a mess. Capaldi is wearing the costumes, its Capadis costume! NO ONE is telling Capaldi what to wear, and what not to wear! Its a Costume for crying out loud!
As long as he's not starker's who really cares what he wears
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Post by icecreamdf on Jun 28, 2016 20:25:00 GMT
I mean, I'm pretty sure he doesn't just come into work with his black pants or his hoodie or whatever, and then they film him wearing his own clothes. If you want to complain about the costume (which is a pretty dumb complaint anyway), then don't blame Capaldi. Are you serious? Capaldi is the lead in a hugely successful show, and his costume is a mess. Capaldi is wearing the costumes, its Capadis costume! NO ONE is telling Capaldi what to wear, and what not to wear! Seriously? He may have input, but there will be somebody else who's job it is to make the costumes and decide what costumes he will wear.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Jun 28, 2016 20:31:16 GMT
Are you serious? Capaldi is the lead in a hugely successful show, and his costume is a mess. Capaldi is wearing the costumes, its Capadis costume! NO ONE is telling Capaldi what to wear, and what not to wear! Seriously? He may have input, but there will be somebody else who's job it is to make the costumes and decide what costumes he will wear. That is nonsense!
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Post by icecreamdf on Jun 28, 2016 21:02:29 GMT
Seriously? He may have input, but there will be somebody else who's job it is to make the costumes and decide what costumes he will wear. That is nonsense! tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Costume_designer
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Jun 28, 2016 21:19:45 GMT
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Post by icecreamdf on Jun 28, 2016 21:25:26 GMT
Well, that's what I found after two seconds of Googling. Capaldi is an actor. Its his job to act. There is no way they would leave him in charge of something else, like costuming.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 4:35:58 GMT
Being someone who has won an Oscar and a BAFTA, yes. He does. I think Paul's question has some weight. I'm not always certain that Capaldi is entirely confident with his acting choices (in Doctor Who), probably because of inconsistencies in the (generally) poor writing. And using an actor's list of awards to counter criticism is never convincing. Even multi-award winning actors can be awful if the writing isn't there and the actor isn't given proper direction. Plus, Capaldi won the Oscar for directing a short film (not acting), so that's a bit misleading. Pity that he hasn't won some kind of award for his role as Richelieu in The Musketeers, he was absolutely marvellous in that. I'm with escalus5 on this one, his performance feels very much all over the place like a man struggling through a series of personas to see which one fits. I could see his mind ticking over in Before the Flood almost as if he was going -- "Right this sounds like Pat Troughton... Mm-hm, now a bit of Bill Hartnell... Right, now Tom." I could see it peeking through for David Tennant when he played the Tenth Doctor, but that was usually bubbling beneath the bravura of his current incarnation's personality. I don't think it's Capaldi's fault really. It's like saying it's Colin's fault for Timelash or The Twin Dilemma, you may have the greatest actor in the world on your soundstage but nothing is going to save them from poor scripting. He's a Doctor I want to adore, but more and more there are stories where he's shunted off to the side or forced to emulate his predecessor(s) and that doesn't feel fair on him. The actor and the writing are just not gelling together like they should. We go back to how odd it would sound with the First Doctor calling the TARDIS "sexy", "doctor disco" sounds fine from the Eleventh Doctor but from the Twelfth it sounds almost tragicomical. This should be an incarnation with poise, methodology and a subdued, almost ponderous demeanour. Someone who is comfortable in his own skin, who could stroll through a burning library reading tome after tome without being interrupted. Well, that's what I found after two seconds of Googling. Capaldi is an actor. Its his job to act. There is no way they would leave him in charge of something else, like costuming. Let's not forget the long-familiar stories of Colin's coat and Sylvester's question mark pullover. Many Doctors only get a cursory input into what they want to wear. Considering Peter loathed celery, I don't think he would have stuck it to his lapel for three years either. The rapidly changing costume does feel symptomatic of that sense of non-identity his Doctor still has unfortunately. If it works, you wouldn't feel the need to near constantly reinvent it.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jun 29, 2016 8:51:26 GMT
Pleasingly for me The Doctor is back to his scraggly hoody-tshirt look with longer hair. Does Capaldi actually know what he is doing? As an actor? Yes, he's won awards for that, I think it's safe to say he knows his biscuits. as the Doctor? Yes, he's sublime and hopefully about to win awards for that too.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jun 29, 2016 8:55:44 GMT
I mean, I'm pretty sure he doesn't just come into work with his black pants or his hoodie or whatever, and then they film him wearing his own clothes. If you want to complain about the costume (which is a pretty dumb complaint anyway), then don't blame Capaldi. Are you serious? Capaldi is the lead in a hugely successful show, and his costume is a mess. Capaldi is wearing the costumes, its Capadis costume! NO ONE is telling Capaldi what to wear, and what not to wear! What's wrong with it? its a cosplayers delight, especially if you're a kid. Want to dress up as the Doctor? Grab your hoodie, some cheap sunnies from the chemist and put some grey spray in your hair, sorted. Hes even better than Smith for costume diversity too, I did white shirt and waistcoat last year at a Con, two of my students turned up, both as Capaldi both in totally different costumes! (Hoodie and sunnies for one, jumper and coat for the other).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 14:52:36 GMT
Being someone who has won an Oscar and a BAFTA, yes. He does. I think Paul's question has some weight. I'm not always certain that Capaldi is entirely confident with his acting choices (in Doctor Who), probably because of inconsistencies in the (generally) poor writing. And using an actor's list of awards to counter criticism is never convincing. Even multi-award winning actors can be awful if the writing isn't there and the actor isn't given proper direction. Plus, Capaldi won the Oscar for directing a short film (not acting), so that's a bit misleading. Paul is criticizing his hairstyle and costuming. You're attacking something completely different so I'm unsure why you think anything has weight in his post. Either way it amazes me that on a Matt Lucas returns thread we still can't escape Moffat bashing. Unless Matt Lucas is secretly writing the show and I'm out the loop.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Jun 29, 2016 15:33:47 GMT
I think Paul's question has some weight. I'm not always certain that Capaldi is entirely confident with his acting choices (in Doctor Who), probably because of inconsistencies in the (generally) poor writing. And using an actor's list of awards to counter criticism is never convincing. Even multi-award winning actors can be awful if the writing isn't there and the actor isn't given proper direction. Plus, Capaldi won the Oscar for directing a short film (not acting), so that's a bit misleading. Paul is criticizing his hairstyle and costuming. You're attacking something completely different so I'm unsure why you think anything has weight in his post. Either way it amazes me that on a Matt Lucas returns thread we still can't escape Moffat bashing. Unless Matt Lucas is secretly writing the show and I'm out the loop. Capaldi doesn't know what do do with the character of the Doctor. He has no confidence in his costume/hair as he keeps changing it. Its Moffat decision to cast Matt Lucas as a companion !!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 16:06:28 GMT
I think when "Peter Capaldi has no confidence in his hair" is an area of discussion, I'm out.
Edited by Admin to ensure compliance with our rules.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Jun 29, 2016 16:17:07 GMT
I think when "Peter Capaldi has no confidence in his hair" is an area of discussion, I'm out. Edited by Admin to ensure compliance with our rulesCapaldis appearance includes his hair and clothing. Neither are consistent. And what about Moffat casting Matt Lucas? Which you have avoided answering.
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Post by icecreamdf on Jun 29, 2016 16:52:08 GMT
I think when "Peter Capaldi has no confidence in his hair" is an area of discussion, I'm out. Capaldis appearance includes his hair and clothing. Neither are consistent. And what about Moffat casting Matt Lucas? Which you have avoided answering. The Twelfth Doctor changes his outfit sometimes. Big deal. He still has more consistent themes witn his clothing than normal people. He's always either the magician, or the hoodie/tshirt combo. Matt Lucas was fine, if not particularly memorable in Husbands, and it remains to be seen what he will be like in season 10.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jun 29, 2016 17:54:31 GMT
'Doctor Who is rubbish...because Peter Capaldi frequently changes his hair style!' is without a doubt the worst argument I have ever seen from the 'Moffat Must Go' camp.
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Post by jasonward on Jun 29, 2016 18:13:24 GMT
I'm going to lock this thead for a short while, whilst the mods deal with issues in it.
I suggest everyone also take the time to re-read our rules.
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OK - going to unlock this thread - but please make sure all your posts are within the rules.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 30, 2016 12:09:07 GMT
Look a Decoy
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Post by mrperson on Jun 30, 2016 14:30:52 GMT
I haven't had much in the way of hope for New Who ever since the season 6 arc went off the rails half-way through (and given what was done with/to River's character). Apart from a few stand-out episodes in each of seasons 7, 8, and 9, I simply have not liked what Moffat thinks Who should be. Sooo.....whatever.
I'm going to watch S10, but I'm struggling to find the enthusiasm.
Big Finish produces the real Who these days.
Anyway, I don't even remember who this character was in Husbands, but then, watching that episode gave me indigestion so I had trouble paying complete attention. It's probably for the best, judging by everyone else's reaction to the idea that the character will return...
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Post by mrperson on Jun 30, 2016 14:34:33 GMT
I don't know who this guy but I'm very concerned that they're bringing back Frank Cottrell Boyce. In the Forest of the Night was painfully bad. It had such a unique concept and utterly ran it into the ground. Kill The Moon wasn't great either, but they brought Peter Harness back and he wrote the incredible Zygon Incasion/Inversion. There's nothing wrong with giving a writer a second chance. Tastes vary. I tried rewatching the Zygon Invasion/Inversion the other day and had to turn it off part way through the first part. Sci-fi often comments on contemporary society, but if you're going to use allegory successfully you don't bludgeon the audience with it. For chrissake, they more or less copied ISIS's flag verbatim! Lines like "if you bomb them, you'll just radicalize them." Blech.
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