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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 17, 2016 11:29:29 GMT
Even with my Grandmothers Will money, i Found it too much to spend lol
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Post by constonks on Jun 17, 2016 14:13:09 GMT
Oooh I wish I could snag those Missing Adventures as I've only got WKK and it's not even in the best condition.
But money.
Always money.
Edit: although, doing the math, the MAs aren't a great price. 34 books for 400 pounds is 11.76 pounds a piece. The EDAs, conversely, are 400 pounds for 76 books, or £5.25 a piece. The VNAs are £6.77 a piece.
And even £5.25 is approaching the highest I've ever paid for a used DW book (other than a couple hardback Telos novellas). The majority of my collection was picked up for CDN $3.50-$4.50 (around £2-£2.50) in a used book store, with the Amazon purchases usually clocking in around $7-$11 (around £3.80-£5.50).
Of course I don't have books like The Dying Days or Happy Endings or Interference so that does inflate the price a bit.
Edit 2: Jeepers there's someone else on eBay selling the complete 61 for £1800. Lungbarrow and So Vile a Sin are definitely not worth £1400.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jun 18, 2016 12:29:23 GMT
No definitely not. I spent a total of £120 for Lungbarrow and So Vile a Sin seperately and that included about £20 of p&p lol
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Post by Ela on Jun 19, 2016 21:33:59 GMT
It's ridiculous and frustrating how much it costs to get these old out of print books. And often in not very good condition, to boot. I saw a copy of Professor Bernice Summerfield and the Glass Prison offered for almost $2000!!! Do people really pay these prices for the books? I'd like to read a lot of them, but I wouldn't pay more than $100 including shipping at most, and even at that, I have never bought a used book from the Doctor Who universe for that much. And it's not as though the original author is benefiting from these ridiculous prices. Okay, my rant is over.  |
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Post by kimalysong on Jun 20, 2016 0:14:11 GMT
If you just want to read them have you guys ever considered inter library loan? I've read a lot of OOP books that way.
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Post by omega on Jun 20, 2016 0:18:54 GMT
I was really lucky to find a copy of Happy Endings at a second-hand bookstore for $3.00 NZD. It was in great condition for a second-hand book, and I was able to score a couple of the Timewyrm books in the same purchase (Exodus and Apocalypse).
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Post by Ela on Jun 20, 2016 6:04:27 GMT
If you just want to read them have you guys ever considered inter library loan? I've read a lot of OOP books that way. I don't think too many libraries have them. We have a huge library system in my county and the Doctor Who pickings are extremely slim. |
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Post by omega on Jun 20, 2016 6:12:52 GMT
If you just want to read them have you guys ever considered inter library loan? I've read a lot of OOP books that way. I don't think too many libraries have them. We have a huge library system in my county and the Doctor Who pickings are extremely slim. Same for me. There are the 2011 print on demands (a selection of Lance Parkin and Kate Orman BBC Eighth and Past Doctor titles), but nothing from the Virgin line. Odds are if the local library system ever had the original copies of the Virgin or BBC books, they've long since been sold on to clear space for newer, more in demand titles. |
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Post by Ela on Jun 20, 2016 6:21:33 GMT
I don't think too many libraries have them. We have a huge library system in my county and the Doctor Who pickings are extremely slim. Same for me. There are the 2011 print on demands (a selection of Lance Parkin and Kate Orman BBC Eighth and Past Doctor titles), but nothing from the Virgin line. Odds are if the local library system ever had the original copies of the Virgin or BBC books, they've long since been sold on to clear space for newer, more in demand titles. Yeah, exactly. I was thinking the same thing. Even if they had them at one time, they would have gotten rid of them by now. |
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Post by aztec on Jun 20, 2016 9:06:50 GMT
I know the Virgin books can be quite hard to get hold of...but even so asking that price seems a a little unrealistic i.m.o, I'm currently collecting the BBC EDA's (got about 40 so far) and with only a couple of exceptions (looking at you Vampire Science!) I've been able to pick up most of them for £2.50-7 on Amazon marketplace (postage included), although this may end up being only slightly cheaper I wouldn't consider spending £400+ on a consignment of 20 year old second hands books that might not even be in good condition...if people were that desperate to read the stories I'm sure there are *other* ways to do so...
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Post by omega on Jun 20, 2016 9:18:16 GMT
I was able to get Vampire Science for a bargain price. A bit worn in terms of condition with the pages slightly yellowed, but still in decent condition. I was surprised to learn that it's one of the harder and pricier ones to locate. For me the most expensive EDA titles are the two Interference books.
The last few Virgin titles in both the NAs and the MAs are more rare and expensive because there was a lower print run due to the licence expiring (they were transitioning the New Adventures to focus on Benny and lessening the presence of the Doctor Who logo on the books by that point), and it doesn't help a number of these titles like Lungbarrow, Dying Days and Well-Mannered War are of great interest to readers.
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Post by aztec on Jun 20, 2016 9:26:42 GMT
I was able to get Vampire Science for a bargain price. A bit worn in terms of condition with the pages slightly yellowed, but still in decent condition. I was surprised to learn that it's one of the harder and pricier ones to locate. For me the most expensive EDA titles are the two Interference books. The last few Virgin titles in both the NAs and the MAs are more rare and expensive because there was a lower print run due to the licence expiring (they were transitioning the New Adventures to focus on Benny and lessening the presence of the Doctor Who logo on the books by that point), and it doesn't help a number of these titles like Lungbarrow, Dying Days and Well-Mannered War are of great interest to readers. I paid about £25 for Vampire Science, but it was in perfect condition and such a great book I didn't mind too much, though I got both Interference books for about four quid each. Yeah, I had heard about the Virgin print runs, though I believe they have released e books of them? I'm also interested in the Telos Novella's but I'm not going to pay £40 for a 2nd hand 200 page book... |
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Post by kimalysong on Jun 20, 2016 9:47:19 GMT
If one library has them in the country ILL can get it for you. In fact I am not 100% sure but for those of us in the US I assume they can also trade with Canadian libraries and vice versa. They may even be able to trade internationally. You can always try searching World Cat to see what libraries have them. For example lungbarrow is in a bunch of UK libraries & one in the US www.worldcat.org/title/lungbarrow/oclc/59591944&referer=brief_resultsI've gotten to read a lot of obscure books this way. |
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Post by coffeeaddict on Jun 20, 2016 15:02:33 GMT
Growing up I was lucky to find the Target novels in the library - never seen any of the VNA's or MA's in any of the places I've lived here in Ontario.
I refuse to pay anything over $30 bucks on a used book, and even that is overpriced giving the condition many of them are in. I've managed to get all but nine of the VNA's and all but six of the MA's, for the most part in almost new condition. Thankfully almost all of them have been less than $20.
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Post by Ela on Jun 20, 2016 16:04:10 GMT
I know the Virgin books can be quite hard to get hold of...but even so asking that price seems a a little unrealistic i.m.o, I'm currently collecting the BBC EDA's (got about 40 so far) and with only a couple of exceptions (looking at you Vampire Science!) I've been able to pick up most of them for £2.50-7 on Amazon marketplace (postage included), although this may end up being only slightly cheaper I wouldn't consider spending £400+ on a consignment of 20 year old second hands books that might not even be in good condition...if people were that desperate to read the stories I'm sure there are *other* ways to do so... I wish there were other ways to read the books, but for many of these books there just isn't. Unless you want to turn your credit card number over to some shady website who pirated the text anyway and who may not actually have the book you're looking for once you've given up your information (from what I've heard; I'm not dumb enough to give my credit card info to a website I know nothing about). |
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Post by Ela on Jun 20, 2016 20:57:29 GMT
If one library has them in the country ILL can get it for you. In fact I am not 100% sure but for those of us in the US I assume they can also trade with Canadian libraries and vice versa. They may even be able to trade internationally. You can always try searching World Cat to see what libraries have them. For example lungbarrow is in a bunch of UK libraries & one in the US www.worldcat.org/title/lungbarrow/oclc/59591944&referer=brief_resultsI've gotten to read a lot of obscure books this way. I actually found that one of the books I've been looking for is reportedly in the University of Wisconsin library. Not sure what inter-library loan set-up they have in place. Guess I could check with my local library. |
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Post by aztec on Jun 21, 2016 13:45:56 GMT
I know the Virgin books can be quite hard to get hold of...but even so asking that price seems a a little unrealistic i.m.o, I'm currently collecting the BBC EDA's (got about 40 so far) and with only a couple of exceptions (looking at you Vampire Science!) I've been able to pick up most of them for £2.50-7 on Amazon marketplace (postage included), although this may end up being only slightly cheaper I wouldn't consider spending £400+ on a consignment of 20 year old second hands books that might not even be in good condition...if people were that desperate to read the stories I'm sure there are *other* ways to do so... I wish there were other ways to read the books, but for many of these books there just isn't. Unless you want to turn your credit card number over to some shady website who pirated the text anyway and who may not actually have the book you're looking for once you've given up your information (from what I've heard; I'm not dumb enough to give my credit card info to a website I know nothing about). Well without naming any websites, I've come across free PDF's etc of the Virgin/BBC books posted online, I absolutely don't agree with piracy so I wouldn't think about downloading them anyway, but for those desperate to read the books they'll always be a way round things legally or otherwise... It's a shame the BBC dosen't negotiate with the authors to try and make e-book versions available for purchase... |
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Post by coffeeaddict on Jun 21, 2016 14:31:34 GMT
I wish there were other ways to read the books, but for many of these books there just isn't. Unless you want to turn your credit card number over to some shady website who pirated the text anyway and who may not actually have the book you're looking for once you've given up your information (from what I've heard; I'm not dumb enough to give my credit card info to a website I know nothing about). Well without naming any websites, I've come across free PDF's etc of the Virgin/BBC books posted online, I absolutely don't agree with piracy so I wouldn't think about downloading them anyway, but for those desperate to read the books they'll always be a way round things legally or otherwise... It's a shame the BBC dosen't negotiate with the authors to try and make e-book versions available for purchase... I have seen some of those pirated copies - they tend to be terrible scans full of errors (spelling and stuff the scanner misreads and renders as garbled text) and sections you can't read. I'd much rather pay a legitimate digital copy which has been error checked by the publisher. |
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Post by Ela on Jun 21, 2016 15:34:54 GMT
I wish there were other ways to read the books, but for many of these books there just isn't. Unless you want to turn your credit card number over to some shady website who pirated the text anyway and who may not actually have the book you're looking for once you've given up your information (from what I've heard; I'm not dumb enough to give my credit card info to a website I know nothing about). Well without naming any websites, I've come across free PDF's etc of the Virgin/BBC books posted online, I absolutely don't agree with piracy so I wouldn't think about downloading them anyway, but for those desperate to read the books they'll always be a way round things legally or otherwise... It's a shame the BBC dosen't negotiate with the authors to try and make e-book versions available for purchase... I've come across links for sites claiming to have the PDFs. When you actually follow the link, you get redirected, often more than once, ultimately landing on a site that requests you sign up and provide your credit card information. And from what I've read about these sites, once you do sign up, they often don't have the book you're looking for, anyway. Um, no thanks. And coffeeaddict is correct that the scans that do exist and are available for free are pretty bad copies with lots of errors. I've seen a few of them myself for the Virgin Doctor Who novels. None at all exist for the Bernice Summerfield novels. I've bought every Benny New Adventure through third party sellers and many of the Doctor Who Virgin books. But totally unable to find the out of print books that were produced by Big Finish for anything resembling a reasonable price, except on these spurious websites that ask for your credit card info upfront. |
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Post by fitzoliverj on Jun 21, 2016 16:13:29 GMT
Same for me. There are the 2011 print on demands (a selection of Lance Parkin and Kate Orman BBC Eighth and Past Doctor titles), Are these genuine? Verified openly by the writers themselves? There are various books - including authors like Paul Cornell and Martin Day - but because there had been a spate of books illegally sold on Amazon by third parties, I've been cautious. |
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