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Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 6, 2016 1:32:30 GMT
I look at his Broadchurch. Now, it wasn't the most original show ever but it was fantastically written. The exchange between Dalekbuster and Paul above equates iconic quotes with good writing, well, they're not interchangeable terms. Broadchurch didn't try and write big, iconic moments every week but it had a tight mystery, interesting and diverse characters and reasons for everyone to act they way they did. That's writing. Not just coming up with something to put on a meme or a tshirt. Chris showed he could write fantastically well on Broadchurch. He made plot and character the focal points, never ignoring one for the other. So while his Who work has been patchy, it's been gun-for-hire. It's also not been bad. Just a tad generic. When we got his own show it became, overnight, the most talked about show in the country. Within 2 weeks Alec Hardy and Ellie Miller became almost instantly uber-popular characters despite being on the face of it cliched cops we've seen a million times. If he can do the same with a Doctor-companion dynamic - take the well worn idea and just do it REALLY well and make casual fans buy in to the concept all over again...we should be in for a treat. Bit of an old quote to trudge up, but I feel it says it best. The simultaneously great yet frustrating is we have no real idea what a Chibnail Who will be like. With RTD and Moffat, we knew from past contributions what sort of direction we could expect, given there was a stronger thematic throughline. Chibnail has the chance to do something that even, arguably, BF haven't necessarily been able to do as often lately: shock and surprise us. Series 11 could well be the most exciting time to be a Who fan in a while. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 6, 2016 14:13:23 GMT
Well... Not sure, honestly. Chibnall's work on Doctor Who has been pretty consistently good. Not great, but far from bad. His Torchwood stories varied, but from what I can tell, he seems greatly influenced by the Pertwee era (though one could argue all of New Who has been inspired by the seventh to eleventh seasons). As a lot of people pointed out already, I'm putting my bets on Silurians and UNIT. I have no idea what direction he'll take Gallifrey-based stories, but I can't see why we wouldn't see more stories set around Gallifrey. I think we may have a few stories based around the Doctor doing a mission for the Time Lords or perhaps an entire story arc dedicated to performing some action for Gallifrey. That's all assuming Moffat doesn't have something similar in mind for Series 10. Otherwise, I have no real idea where Series 11 will take us. I'm just hopeful Capaldi will decide to stay for just one more series and that we won't get ANOTHER Christmas regeneration. I think the Doctor and the Time Lords are too pissed off at eachother right now for the Doctor to be doing missions for them. I wouldn't be surprised if Rassilon and the high council are out for revenge now. Good point. We may see the Time Lords sending Missy on missions instead to track down and assassinate the Doctor. |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Dec 7, 2016 12:08:01 GMT
Well i reckon the new Council that are in place are people The Doctor chose as the best people. So it could end in Gallifreyan Civil War
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Dec 7, 2016 12:49:10 GMT
Well i reckon the new Council that are in place are people The Doctor chose as the best people. So it could end in Gallifreyan Civil War Can't see Chibnall doing anything with Gallifrey. It would bog down the series, when the Doctor should be fighting evil, rather than playing politics! |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 7, 2016 13:40:44 GMT
Well i reckon the new Council that are in place are people The Doctor chose as the best people. So it could end in Gallifreyan Civil War Can't see Chibnall doing anything with Gallifrey. It would bog down the series, when the Doctor should be fighting evil, rather than playing politics! More people arguably care about politics than ever though. |
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Dec 7, 2016 14:53:33 GMT
Can't see Chibnall doing anything with Gallifrey. It would bog down the series, when the Doctor should be fighting evil, rather than playing politics! More people arguably care about politics than ever though. Not for a show thats about adventures in time and space! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 15:28:42 GMT
'The Deadly Assassin', in which the most powerful race in the galaxy were portrayed as a bunch of silly old men, was a fairly politically fuelled story. It was quite popular too, as memory serves. Just goes to show adventures in time and space can be littered with political references and still be entertaining.
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Post by acousticwolf on Dec 7, 2016 15:41:20 GMT
There were lots of classic stories that contained underlying current (political) issues
Cheers
Tony
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 7, 2016 15:43:13 GMT
More people arguably care about politics than ever though. Not for a show thats about adventures in time and space! For someone who's a diehard fan of Old Who, you seem to have forgotten, let me see... Enemy of the World, War Games, Colony in Space and, most pertinently, Deadly Assassin.
Also, sci-fi isn't about politics? Oooh boy, where do I start.... |
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Dec 7, 2016 16:14:57 GMT
Not for a show thats about adventures in time and space! For someone who's a diehard fan of Old Who, you seem to have forgotten, let me see... Enemy of the World, War Games, Colony in Space and, most pertinently, Deadly Assassin.
Also, sci-fi isn't about politics? Oooh boy, where do I start.... But, not for the whole series! |
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Dec 7, 2016 16:38:09 GMT
For someone who's a diehard fan of Old Who, you seem to have forgotten, let me see... Enemy of the World, War Games, Colony in Space and, most pertinently, Deadly Assassin.
Also, sci-fi isn't about politics? Oooh boy, where do I start.... But, not for the whole series! I never actually said it would be for the whole series. You just seemed to assume that. I just think that the Council as it stands now would be people The Doctor has chosen, since they are either friends or people he believes will do whats best for Gallifrey. The you'd have Rassilon come back and rally his forces, made from the old banished council and you have a two part story minimum |
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Post by agentten on Dec 7, 2016 21:34:58 GMT
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Dec 7, 2016 22:49:37 GMT
But, not for the whole series! I never actually said it would be for the whole series. You just seemed to assume that. I just think that the Council as it stands now would be people The Doctor has chosen, since they are either friends or people he believes will do whats best for Gallifrey. The you'd have Rassilon come back and rally his forces, made from the old banished council and you have a two part story minimum Neither did I. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 8, 2016 9:54:12 GMT
He needs to return in Series 10. His return is long overdue. |
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Dec 8, 2016 12:44:45 GMT
Is Brian Minchin leaving with Moffat?
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Post by agentten on Dec 8, 2016 20:35:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 20:43:30 GMT
I like RTD's moustache!
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Post by Shiny on Dec 8, 2016 20:44:18 GMT
John Barrowman is always teasing a return. I'll believe it when it's announced. Until then, there's always Big Finish. Is Brian Minchin leaving with Moffat? Isn't Matt Strevens set to be executive producer with Chris Chibnall? So unless they're gonna have three executive producers again, I think it's safe to say Brian Minchin is leaving as well. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 8, 2016 20:48:10 GMT
Why is it that every celebrity is determined to grow an ugly moustache now? It never suits them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2016 21:11:25 GMT
Why is it that every celebrity is determined to grow an ugly moustache now? It never suits them. At this time of year it's usually for charity. (Movember) |
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