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Post by paulmorris7777 on Jul 3, 2016 15:39:25 GMT
Russell T Davis was Showrunner from 2005 - 2010, he brought us -
2005 "Rose" "The End of the World" "Aliens of London"/"World War Three" "The Long Game" "Boom Town" "Bad Wolf"/"The Parting of the Ways" "Doctor Who: Children in Need" "The Christmas Invasion" 2006 "New Earth" "Tooth and Claw" "Love & Monsters" "Army of Ghosts"/"Doomsday" "The Runaway Bride" 2007 "Smith and Jones" "Gridlock" "Utopia"/"The Sound of Drums"/"Last of the Time Lords" "Voyage of the Damned" 2008 "Partners in Crime" "Midnight" "Turn Left" "The Stolen Earth"/"Journey's End" "Music of the Spheres" "The Next Doctor" 2009 "Planet of the Dead" (co-written with Gareth Roberts) Untitled Tonight's the Night sketch "The Waters of Mars" (co-written with Phil Ford) 2009 and 2010 The End of Time
Steven Moffat from 2011 - 2016
"The Empty Child" / "The Doctor Dances" (2005) "The Girl in the Fireplace" (2006) "Blink" (2007) "Time Crash" (Children in Need mini-episode, 2007) "Silence in the Library" / "Forest of the Dead" (2008) The End of Time (2010) (final scene, uncredited) "The Eleventh Hour" (2010) "The Beast Below" (2010) "The Time of Angels" / "Flesh and Stone" (2010) "The Pandorica Opens" / "The Big Bang" (2010) "A Christmas Carol" (2010) "Space" / "Time" (Comic Relief mini-episodes, 2011) "The Impossible Astronaut" / "Day of the Moon" (2011) "A Good Man Goes to War" (2011) "Let's Kill Hitler" (2011) "The Wedding of River Song" (2011) "The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe" (2011) "Asylum of the Daleks" (2012) "The Angels Take Manhattan" (2012) "The Snowmen" (2012) "The Bells of Saint John" (2013) "The Name of the Doctor" (2013) "The Night of the Doctor" (mini-episode, 2013) "The Day of the Doctor" (2013) "The Time of the Doctor" (2013) "Deep Breath" (2014) "Into the Dalek" (co-written with Phil Ford, 2014) "Listen" (2014) "Time Heist" (co-written with Stephen Thompson, 2014) "The Caretaker" (co-written with Gareth Roberts, 2014) "Dark Water" / "Death in Heaven" (2014) "Last Christmas" (2014) "The Magician's Apprentice" / "The Witch's Familiar" (2015) "The Girl Who Died" (co-written with Jamie Mathieson, 2015) "The Zygon Inversion" (co-written with Peter Harness, 2015) "Heaven Sent" (2015) "Hell Bent" (2015) "The Husbands of River Song" (2015)
LET BATTLE COMMENCE
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Post by Tony Jones on Jul 3, 2016 15:47:18 GMT
I have pedantically amended the title. I'm having one of those days! Apologies to those whom it will offend
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Jul 3, 2016 15:54:08 GMT
I have pedantically amended the title. I'm having one of those days! Apologies to those whom it will offend I just changed it back, not realising you had changed it, as I thought I had put it up wrong! OOOOOPS!
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Post by mark687 on Jul 3, 2016 16:03:12 GMT
Surprise Surprise RTD all the Way!
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Post by Star Platinum on Jul 3, 2016 16:08:43 GMT
Moffatt, easily.
I feel he's produced better monsters, better characters, and the shift in quality was noticeable when he took the reigns.
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Post by jasonward on Jul 3, 2016 16:13:01 GMT
This is close call, but because whilst I really didn't like a lot of what RTD developed into Who, he brought Who back, and for that I bow to the man. Moffat however has developed the program in ways I am much happier about, and at his best Moffat is just an amazing writer, so I voted Moffat.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Jul 3, 2016 16:23:50 GMT
Surprise Surprise RTD all the Way! Give it a chance, voting has only just started!
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Post by aztec on Jul 3, 2016 16:28:16 GMT
Hmm...RTD was a stronger showrunner i.m.o (in the sense of keeping story arcs on track, balancing tones and writing for a broader audience), the companions were written more believably in his era, and I think he balanced pathos and humour better than Moffat does, but much of the 2005-10 era dosen't really feel like Who to me, I think RTD went to far pandering to casual viewers with the big concept episodes, pop culture references and guest stars (The Voyage Of The Dammed and The End Of Time remain almost unwatchable to me) and I found the romance stuff very melodramatic and annoying, and I think the lows of S1-4 are much lower than S5-7, though for me there is a higher average of enjoyable episodes in the former.
But I do think Moffat is a much more talented Sci-fi writer, and a more interesting showrunner, he seems more willing to take risks and I find his arcs (though sometimes rather convoluted and haphazardly executed) much more thought provoking than RTD's, but crucially, to me S5-9 actually feel more like Classic Who than S1-4 did, Moffat i.m.o has a much better grasp of how to write the Doctor, created better aliens, the production values, acting and cinematography have improved enormously since he took over i.m.o, even if the series has become more introspective and aimed at fans than it was previously.
So on balance I'll say I prefer Moffat's production values, doctor and broad storylines, but I do sometimes miss the character interactions and broad humour and fun of RTD's era.
S4 and S9 are tied as my favourite of New Who, and for me at least I think both show the very best and most divisive elements of each showrunner's writing.
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Post by mark687 on Jul 3, 2016 16:35:56 GMT
Surprise Surprise RTD all the Way! Give it a chance, voting has only just started! I can't tell is that's sarcasm or not.
Seriously though RTD has more likeable companions, 2 actors confident in the role of the Doctor, more believable scripts/ story Arcs, and when gridlock dose resort to song to stretch out an Ep it doesn't drag. it into mind-numbing boredom.
Regards
mark687
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Jul 3, 2016 16:39:25 GMT
Give it a chance, voting has only just started! I can't tell is that's sarcasm or not.
Seriously though RTD has more likeable companions, 2 actors confident in the role of the Doctor, more believable scripts/ story Arcs, and when gridlock dose resort to song to stretch out an Ep it doesn't drag. it into mind-numbing boredom.
Regards
mark687
It was a fact, and calm down!
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Post by barnabaslives on Jul 3, 2016 16:45:58 GMT
I'll cast a vote for Moffat... RTD has written some things I really like and I have to give him credit for getting the show restarted on the right foot as much as he did, but overall his list of stories seems like more of a mixed bag to me. Don't know if I think Moffat is "more better" than RTD, but I do seem to think he has been more consistently good.
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Post by Timelord007 on Jul 3, 2016 21:28:56 GMT
RTD was the stronger showrunner for me, he can write brilliant emotion to his characters, i used to get so excited for RTD & David Tennant era but couldn't really care about Moffats era he does nothing for me as showrunner but i guess that's the variety of the show some seasons you enjoy more than others.
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Post by shutupbanks on Jul 3, 2016 23:20:51 GMT
Big Moffat fanboy here: loved his work since Press Gang and I've said elsewhere that Coupling is a work of genius. I find his work on Who to range from adequate to brilliant, but I think he has a less reverential view of the Doctor as a character and his stories are resolved in a way that relies less upon mysticism and more on "sorting stuff out." That said, RTD did bring the show back, for which he is a GOD.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 2:09:37 GMT
Both have their strengths, but the Russell T. Davies era had the stronger, more consistent run of quality for me personally.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jul 4, 2016 8:19:28 GMT
Steven Moffat. Russell T Davies was brilliant but Moffat is better at the scares of Doctor Who.
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Post by CookieMaster on Jul 4, 2016 8:56:32 GMT
RTD for me, but they are both very good in many different ways
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Post by constonks on Jul 5, 2016 2:11:20 GMT
Too close to call for me. Both have their strengths and faults.
Almost all of my favourite Moffat stories are from the RTD era, but I definitely have more Moffat-penned stories that I consider favourites than RTD-penned ones (Honestly, it's probably just Midnight).
If we consider worsts, my least favourite episode of New Who is probably The Last of the Time Lords. But I also dislike Moffat's bringing-people-back-from-the-dead thing and a lot of his favourite tropes have gotten old.
As for their actual personalities, they both seem like absolute delights. Moff's column in DWM is always fun to read and any time RTD starts talking about the show in that hyper excited voice, I can't help but smile. In a lot of ways, both are two big kids given full control of the sandbox and it's marvelous to watch.
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Post by acousticwolf on Jul 5, 2016 7:56:57 GMT
They both have strengths and weaknesses (as show runners and writers) and overall I think I like/loathe their stories in equal measure, so unable to vote Cheers Tony
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 15:47:12 GMT
Too close to call on this one. Like others have said, RTD and SM have both written stories that I like and dislike, and both have also done good and stupid things with Doctor Who... but I voted for RTD in the poll as he was the man that brought Doctor Who back on to the TV. So I reckoned that deserved to tip the balance for my vote.
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Post by elkawho on Jul 5, 2016 17:13:48 GMT
I'm an RTD woman, all the way. I discovered and then fell in love with the show under his reign. For me, his scripts have more consistency to them and he was a better show runner overall. That's not to say that Moffat doesn't have his strengths as well. I think RTD "gets" people on a much more visceral level that Moffat. Although I have to admit that I think Moffat "gets" Doctor Who monsters much better than RTD. And I do think that they both truly love the show and want to do right by the fans and the legacy of the series, even though we may not all appreciate what exactly that they are doing.
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