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Post by levi3o4 on Sept 24, 2016 3:32:00 GMT
One of my favorite tropes is when a character believes they're in one kind of story (ie a horror film) but they're really in a different kind (ie a romance or something). And I absolutely LOVED how part 4 did that with the companions thinking they were in a regeneration story, that really tickled me
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Post by omega on Sept 24, 2016 4:36:02 GMT
One of my favorite tropes is when a character believes they're in one kind of story (ie a horror film) but they're really in a different kind (ie a romance or something). And I absolutely LOVED how part 4 did that with the companions thinking they were in a regeneration story, that really tickled me It struck me as very Mawdryn Undead, even though dorney wanted to avoid that according to the extras. I thought it would be Padrac who was regenerating, but was very surprised when it turned out to be an earlier incarnation of the Eleven! I did sort of clue into Octavius's identity at the end of Doomsday Chronometer (Latin numbering was a huge clue).
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Post by mrperson on Sept 24, 2016 18:53:22 GMT
Haven't listened to it all yet so am not reading posts.
Listened to EP 1 and not much of anything happened. The first half (or 2/3) was a McGuffin and there were a few emotional points along the way. Now, I understand these DC releases are really to be viewed as one four hour grand episode, split into four parts, but it was rather long for a simple intro.
Still, from what I did see previously in the comments here, I should be very pleased with the whole once I'm done.
(It also reminded me: I really miss having the occasional 2h McGann release, even though - for some reason - he seems to me to do perfectly in 1h episodes as well. Is there something I missed? Did he decide to leave the MR, perhaps due to scheduling/demand? Did they want to devote the MR to 5-7? I want to see him appear in there again, be it with Mary Shelly or other(s))
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Post by icecreamdf on Sept 24, 2016 19:55:03 GMT
This was probably the best Doom Coalition so far. I liked the first episode, but I preferred the later ones that were more strongly tied into the main story.
It took me an embarassingly long time to discover Octavian's identity. I didn't figure it out until the Doctor realized he was a Time Lord, but in retrospect it was incredibly obvious that he was The Eight. I'm also glad that we finally got to hear River working together with one of the old Doctors. I know she spoke to Eight on the phone in her boxset, but it was great to hear her actually going on an adventure with him. I can't wait till the next one comes out, so I can find out if the Doctor, Liv, and Helen escape.
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Post by kurumais on Sept 25, 2016 8:12:38 GMT
did anyone else catch liv telling helen "you'd be surprised the doctors taken me to a few english themed planets over the years." at the beginning of absent friends i said myself woah first time i heard it im really glad like i said earlier in thread i love liv chenka. i happy she has a nice long run in the tardis. and im glad for 8 to have someone to watch his back, and for 8 just to have someone. maybe an opening for some main range releases with just the 2 of them.
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Post by Whovitt on Sept 25, 2016 13:35:39 GMT
Just putting it out there - I reckon the regeneration at the end of the trailer is the birth of The Twelve To be fair, I wasn't too far off Really, really enjoyed this! A HUGE step up from Doom Coalition 2. Absent Friends was terrific, as was The Crucible of Souls. To be honest, the middle of the story has blurred together, and I can't honestly distinguish between The Eighth Piece and The Doomsday Chronometer. I actually spent the whole two episodes thinking The Clockmaker was The Eleven/one of The Eleven. When they established a clear difference in The Crucible of Souls it really made me question just how much attention I was paying to the previous two episodes... And I was completed focussed on them! I'll be listening to the full set again in preparation for Doom Coalition 4 next year, as I had completely forgotten who Padrac was (and I can barely remember the first box set, so it won't hurt ). Also, did anyone else feel Alex Kingston seemed very flat in her performance? It might just be me, but she seemed far more into it in her previous performances.
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Post by kurumais on Sept 25, 2016 18:23:23 GMT
Absent Friends the absolute highlight of Doom Coalition thus far . I actually teared up at Liv's second conversation with her father, in part due to the return of some of the music from Robophobia, only more heartbreaking. Damn you dorney ! I also love that there was never anything alien and sinister going on, just a dodgy businessman who the Doctor couldn't be bothered dealing with. Seems it's not just humans who look for patterns where there are none. Time Lords are also prone. I still haven't got much of a handle of Helen as her own character. And that cliffhanger, March 2017 can't come soon enough! By the way, a brilliant alternate title for the first story would be Everything Left Unsaid, as it ties into the theme of finally being able to say good bye and get closure over a traumatic event. im a hard hearted SOB but that bit got to me im with you on helen as well she just hasn't connected with me. when im listening i cant point to anything wrong but she just doesn't stay with me.
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Post by omega on Sept 26, 2016 6:18:14 GMT
Absent Friends the absolute highlight of Doom Coalition thus far . I actually teared up at Liv's second conversation with her father, in part due to the return of some of the music from Robophobia, only more heartbreaking. Damn you dorney ! I also love that there was never anything alien and sinister going on, just a dodgy businessman who the Doctor couldn't be bothered dealing with. Seems it's not just humans who look for patterns where there are none. Time Lords are also prone. I still haven't got much of a handle of Helen as her own character. And that cliffhanger, March 2017 can't come soon enough! By the way, a brilliant alternate title for the first story would be Everything Left Unsaid, as it ties into the theme of finally being able to say good bye and get closure over a traumatic event. im a hard hearted SOB but that bit got to me im with you on helen as well she just hasn't connected with me. when im listening i cant point to anything wrong but she just doesn't stay with me. It's probably cynical of me, but I think a big part of why Helen became a companion and stayed on in DC2 and 3 was because she was played by an actress Paul McGann was friends with already. The Galileo Trap has her doing standard companion stuff and The Satanic Mill is an absent memory, just like the pen name of Edward Collier. Really, what was up with that?
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Post by dorney on Sept 26, 2016 6:20:15 GMT
im a hard hearted SOB but that bit got to me im with you on helen as well she just hasn't connected with me. when im listening i cant point to anything wrong but she just doesn't stay with me. It's probably cynical of me, but I think a big part of why Helen became a companion and stayed on in DC2 and 3 was because she was played by an actress Paul McGann was friends with already. The Galileo Trap has her doing standard companion stuff and The Satanic Mill is an absent memory, just like the pen name of Edward Collier. Really, what was up with that? I'm not sure they'd actually met before Doom Coalition. I think it's covered in the extras.
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Post by omega on Sept 26, 2016 6:22:03 GMT
It's probably cynical of me, but I think a big part of why Helen became a companion and stayed on in DC2 and 3 was because she was played by an actress Paul McGann was friends with already. The Galileo Trap has her doing standard companion stuff and The Satanic Mill is an absent memory, just like the pen name of Edward Collier. Really, what was up with that? I'm not sure they'd actually met before Doom Coalition. I think it's covered in the extras. It's been a year since the first one, the memory can cheat. I do like how you foreshadowed The Red Lady in A Life in the Day from Dark Eyes 4.
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Post by Zagreus on Sept 26, 2016 6:42:20 GMT
did anyone else catch live telling helen "you'd be surprised the doctors taken me to a few enlgish themed planets over the years." at the beginning of absent friends i said myself woah first time i heard it im really glad like i said earlier in thread i love liv chenka. i happy she has a nice long run in the tardis. and im glad for 8 to have someone to watch his back, and for 8 just to have someone. maybe an opening for some main range releases with just the 2 of them. Liv's even getting a short trip, set somewhere during the Dark Eyes saga! In retrospect, she's the much more constant companion during Dark Eyes, and Doom Coalition has just cemented her place. I kind of look at Dark Eyes 1 as a "the specials" coda at the end of the 4th series of The Eighth Doctor Adventures, with Dark Eyes 2, 3, & 4 being a twelve-episode saga. Even when not viewed this way, Molly is often more plot macguffin than actual companion, while Liv gets all sorts of character development and stuff to do.
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Post by kfbate on Sept 26, 2016 8:33:47 GMT
TO be fair my aged mind is not what it used to be, and thus I am having to go back to listen to the previous 1 & 2 which is no great shakes but, I am looking forward to the experience again of listening to this great story.
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Post by fuurei on Sept 26, 2016 17:18:08 GMT
I so wanted to know who was on the other end of the line at the end of Absent Friends. I know it was part of the point to end the story right there, but still... my curiosity rages.
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Post by mrperson on Sept 26, 2016 19:19:12 GMT
EP2
One strange thing I noticed: when Liv and Helen are together, I can easily tell me apart. But when they're each off doing their own thing I momentarily confuse the two, multiple times...
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Post by elkawho on Sept 27, 2016 3:13:13 GMT
I so wanted to know who was on the other end of the line at the end of Absent Friends. I know it was part of the point to end the story right there, but still... my curiosity rages. Ditto. I've spent lost in thought going through all the companions and friends that I think it could be, and how the conversation would go. For some reason, I keep coming back to Adric.
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Post by Ela on Sept 27, 2016 3:58:48 GMT
There's so many people it could be besides Adric. To be honest, I never thought it was him.
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Post by Whovitt on Sept 27, 2016 5:13:12 GMT
For some reason I thought it would be the Seventh Doctor. Eight isn't particularly manipulative, so I could see why he wouldn't want to talk to him. Also, Seven was the one who caught The Eleven in the first place, and I could see Seven, being Seven, having predicted The Eleven's escape, prepared for it... and then wiped his memory so he could later warn his eighth self? (this is where the little theory falls down ) Still, that's what I'm going to believe until Doom Coalition 4 undoubtedly proves me wrong
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Post by pawntake on Sept 27, 2016 7:49:38 GMT
But Mark Bonnar is not in the cast list?... Hadn't even thought to check that... One of the biggest parts of the Doom Coalition promotional stuff was the The Eleven and his plans. What's the point/big deal about him if he isn't even in it? Lets hope he is back for DC4!! And this is not another case of actor unavailability!! Every story in this boxset for my money was compulsive listening(BF soundscapes just get better and better) with a brilliant cliffhanger .Roll -on DC4
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Post by christmastrenzalore on Sept 27, 2016 11:18:27 GMT
There's so many people it could be besides Adric. To be honest, I never thought it was him. I like how it was left a mystery, but for now, my guess is it was Alex during his travels with Lucie. Absent Friends Like everyone said, beautiful story and the highlight of the set. I love how the mystery was a red herring, and it's really about the characters and their families. Terrific start. 10/10 The Eighth Piece & The Doomsday Chronometer I listened to these twice before finally listening to the last instalment, and honestly found them a bit boring. There's lots happening (robots, time travel, The Clocksmith, the Eight, River and Cromwell), but the plotting just moves too quickly, without really getting me hooked into what was going on. Joint 6.5/10
I like how they did River, in disguise and taking on a persona. Honestly, if this is their approach to every encounter from now on, I'm satisfied, since the tip-toeing was starting to get a bit arduous. This way, you bypass the problems (while still having some potential to play with them "for all I know you could be wearing one" *awkward lol*), and it could be fun to see River get into some different characters. "Niles Ditty, attorney-at-law." The Crucible of Souls I love how this one is basically a big farce for the most part, with most of the fun coming from the big dance of complicated misunderstandings and winking nudges. And it had a good dramatic ending. Solid 8/10
The fourth set is really gonna have to stick the landing, since there's still a lot of mystery up on the air. I hope the crucible isn't the only element in play here, since it's reveal wasn't really foreshadowed much in the previous two stories, and it's a bit straight forward if this is all just about Padrac going mad with power.
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Post by Ela on Sept 27, 2016 13:17:54 GMT
Could have been Alex. That's a good possibility, especially if we we're thinking in terms of family members.
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