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Post by paulmorris7777 on Jul 11, 2016 19:17:04 GMT
As The Master, Roger Delgado brought us -
Terror of the Autons
The Mind of Evil
The Claws of Axos
Colony in Space
The Dæmons
The Sea Devils
The Time Monster
Frontier in Space
As Missy, Michelle Gomez brought us -
Deep Breath
Into the Dalek
The Caretaker
Flatline
In the Forest of the Night
Dark Water / Death in Heaven
The Magician's Apprentice / The Witch's Familiar
LET BATTLE COMMENCE
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jul 11, 2016 19:22:59 GMT
As The Master, Roger Delgado brought us - Terror of the Autons The Mind of Evil The Claws of Axos Colony in Space The Dæmons The Sea Devils The Time Monster Frontier in Space As Missy, Michelle Gomez brought us - Deep Breath Into the Dalek The Caretaker Flatline In the Forest of the Night Dark Water / Death in Heaven The Magician's Apprentice / The Witch's Familiar LET BATTLE COMMENCE No thanks, Paul. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 21:51:07 GMT
Nope from me too. Refusing to provide fuel to this nonsense. Agreed, this is complete and total nonsense. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2016 22:02:13 GMT
Also, paulmorris777, I just want to say that this constant fighting people who enjoy Nuwho and their opinions has gotten out of hand. While I am a big fan of debate, there is a line that I feel you have crossed. However, please do not take this personally because I genuinely enjoy your wonderful posts about the positives of Classic Who and even though might not always agree with you, I respect your opinion on Nuwho. Also, please don't ever feel that you are not welcome here, we just don't want this bickering. Again, please don't take this personally and I hope I haven't angered you in any way. Have a good day.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Jul 11, 2016 22:40:32 GMT
The correct answer, is, of course, Sam Kisgart.
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Post by aztec on Jul 12, 2016 13:58:51 GMT
I like both equally, Delgrado does cold and calculating very well, whilst I find Gomez's Master hillarious, but twisted and unpredictable, and both are i.m.o great foils to their respective Doctors. I've never found the Master a particularly interesting villain though these two (and McQueen) are certainly fun to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2016 0:02:14 GMT
Michelle Gomez was brilliant as Missy, but Roger Delgado is The Master as far as I am concerned.
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Post by omega on Jul 13, 2016 5:55:40 GMT
Also, paulmorris777, I just want to say that this constant fighting people who enjoy Nuwho and their opinions has gotten out of hand. While I am a big fan of debate, there is a line that I feel you have crossed. However, please do not take this personally because I genuinely enjoy your wonderful posts about the positives of Classic Who and even though might not always agree with you, I respect your opinion on Nuwho. Also, please don't ever feel that you are not welcome here, we just don't want this bickering. Again, please don't take this personally and I hope I haven't angered you in any way. Have a good day. Yes. I respect that you have your right to an opinion and to share it, regardless of what that opinion is and how I feel about it, but please don't preach it excessively. |
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Post by Timelord007 on Jul 13, 2016 8:02:35 GMT
Roger Delgado the definitive Master.
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Post by CookieMaster on Jul 15, 2016 15:34:59 GMT
Classic Masters will always win against new series Masters for me, I like Michelle though.
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Post by mrperson on Jul 15, 2016 15:44:00 GMT
As for TV, I definitely prefer Delgado.
But as I said in one thread or another, if everything is tallied up I think Beevers followed by Macqueen are my all-around favorites.
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Post by Ela on Jul 15, 2016 18:54:34 GMT
Also, paulmorris777, I just want to say that this constant fighting people who enjoy Nuwho and their opinions has gotten out of hand. While I am a big fan of debate, there is a line that I feel you have crossed. However, please do not take this personally because I genuinely enjoy your wonderful posts about the positives of Classic Who and even though might not always agree with you, I respect your opinion on Nuwho. Also, please don't ever feel that you are not welcome here, we just don't want this bickering. Again, please don't take this personally and I hope I haven't angered you in any way. Have a good day. Very well said. Not participating in this poll. It's comparing apples and oranges and makes no sense. No battling from me. |
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Jul 15, 2016 21:07:13 GMT
Michelle Gomez for me. She will always be my Master.
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Post by CookieMaster on Jul 16, 2016 8:58:55 GMT
As for TV, I definitely prefer Delgado. But as I said in one thread or another, if everything is tallied up I think Beevers followed by Macqueen are my all-around favorites. Oh definitely, that's my position too. Basically Big Finish Masters > Classic series Masters > New Series Masters, however that does allow for a new series Master to come into the BF fold someday. |
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Post by icecreamdf on Aug 7, 2016 20:06:18 GMT
Delgado will always be my favorite Master, but Gomez is a close second. She is certainly better than any of the other Classic TV Masters. Either way, it seems a bit silly to have a poll that only includes two Masters.
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Post by mrperson on Aug 7, 2016 21:36:02 GMT
Delgado will always be my favorite Master, but Gomez is a close second. She is certainly better than any of the other Classic TV Masters. Either way, it seems a bit silly to have a poll that only includes two Masters. My personal beef is simply that New Who seems to want the master to be wacky-crazy, whereas in the classic series & BF, he's mostly evil and only part crazy. Gomez is a great actress, of course, but the capering about and joking while fondling dalek balls, kissing the Doctor, etc, didn't rub me the right way. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2016 22:44:40 GMT
Delgado will always be my favorite Master, but Gomez is a close second. She is certainly better than any of the other Classic TV Masters. Either way, it seems a bit silly to have a poll that only includes two Masters. My personal beef is simply that New Who seems to want the master to be wacky-crazy, whereas in the classic series & BF, he's mostly evil and only part crazy. Gomez is a great actress, of course, but the capering about and joking while fondling dalek balls, kissing the Doctor, etc, didn't rub me the right way. Nor me, but the impression I get with Gomez is that it's an act she's putting on for the benefit of the humans. It's like the Doctor's obfuscating stupidity trick where he pretends to be far more daft than he actually is, only she's playing into their preconceptions and using them to judge where they'll instinctively jump. You'll notice that she drops it almost completely when she's talking with the Doctor alone herself, everything is reigned in and very nearly rational like they're sharing some great secret only the two of them know. |
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Post by icecreamdf on Aug 8, 2016 4:01:08 GMT
Delgado will always be my favorite Master, but Gomez is a close second. She is certainly better than any of the other Classic TV Masters. Either way, it seems a bit silly to have a poll that only includes two Masters. My personal beef is simply that New Who seems to want the master to be wacky-crazy, whereas in the classic series & BF, he's mostly evil and only part crazy. Gomez is a great actress, of course, but the capering about and joking while fondling dalek balls, kissing the Doctor, etc, didn't rub me the right way. Its just the differences between the incarnations. The Classic series didn't really give us a wide variety of incarnations, because the Anthony Ainley Master was just a poor man's Roger Delgado Master. The Simm and Macqueen Masters are also both crazier than anything we got from the Master in the Classic Series. |
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Post by barnabaslives on Aug 8, 2016 10:05:51 GMT
Nor me, but the impression I get with Gomez is that it's an act she's putting on for the benefit of the humans. It's like the Doctor's obfuscating stupidity trick where he pretends to be far more daft than he actually is, only she's playing into their preconceptions and using them to judge where they'll instinctively jump. You'll notice that she drops it almost completely when she's talking with the Doctor alone herself, everything is reigned in and very nearly rational like they're sharing some great secret only the two of them know. Thanks! Neat perspective, and it might just make a lot of sense. I'm due to watch the Capaldi episodes again sometime soon and I'll start with Missy and see if I can get it to work for me to think of Missy's antics that way. That's probably a major part of my discomfort with the New Series is when The Doctor's arch-nemesis only seems to act about half as "arch" as Madame Kovarian most of the time (had no trouble taking her seriously), even though the mayhem is still there, so it would be a great thing to make peace with. |
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Aug 8, 2016 10:24:48 GMT
My personal beef is simply that New Who seems to want the master to be wacky-crazy, whereas in the classic series & BF, he's mostly evil and only part crazy. Gomez is a great actress, of course, but the capering about and joking while fondling dalek balls, kissing the Doctor, etc, didn't rub me the right way. Its just the differences between the incarnations. The Classic series didn't really give us a wide variety of incarnations, because the Anthony Ainley Master was just a poor man's Roger Delgado Master. The Simm and Macqueen Masters are also both crazier than anything we got from the Master in the Classic Series. I always reasoned that the Master was mad because he had ran out of regenerations. Pratt/Beevers/Ainley/Roberts weren't normal incarnations, and this drove him insane. However, that theory doesn't work, now, as Jacobi was a new life cycle, and Simm was mad. We still don't know where the Gomez Master is in terms of incarnation number. |
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