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Post by dangfish9 on Sept 13, 2016 21:59:21 GMT
I didn't see any thread on this spin-off. I have yet to listen to any of these but I have the first one in my 'to be listened to' pile of CDs. I know there are several different actors playing the doctor in this series. My first question is in regards to this. Is each doctor in a different alternate universe or are they all regenerations of the same doctor? Also, can one listen to the recent Bernice Summer field set without listening to the two David Warner releases first? What are folks opinions on this range?
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Post by constonks on Sept 13, 2016 22:11:22 GMT
The first six releases are set in six separate universes, the seventh and eighth releases revisit the first two. All of them aim to tell a "What if" story, things like "What if the Doctor wasn't around during the UNIT era/got away in The War Games/never left Gallifrey/actively interfered with history?"
I don't remember any of them being dull and in fact, I'd probably recommend all of them. However, they are all very different. He Jests at Scars is bleak and complicated, Exile and Deadline are dark comedies, the David Warner releases are more typical Who (with little twists) and the Bayldon ones are fun - steeped in Gallifrey lore and a good amount of heart. As for Full Fathom Five... I don't want to give too much away on that one. Even its "What If?" premise is telling too much.
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Post by mark687 on Sept 13, 2016 22:33:39 GMT
I didn't see any thread on this spin-off. I have yet to listen to any of these but I have the first one in my 'to be listened to' pile of CDs. I know there are several different actors playing the doctor in this series. My first question is in regards to this. Is each doctor in a different alternate universe or are they all regenerations of the same doctor? Also, can one listen to the recent Bernice Summer field set without listening to the two David Warner releases first? What are folks opinions on this range? All in the established universe until the point the specific what if occurs expect maybe Full fathom Five and Deadline
notthebigfinishforum.freeforums.net/thread/1791/unbound-2-sympathy-devil-spoilers
notthebigfinishforum.freeforums.net/thread/1848/unbound-8-masters-war
Discussion Threads for the David Warner ones who's an alternate 3rd Doc
It'd enhance Benny Unbound if you've heard Sympathy for the Devil 1st but not essential
There's also Auld Morality and Storm of Angels starring Geoffrey Bayldon as an alternate 1st Doc
Exile features another alternative 3rd Doc
Full Fathom Five
Alternative Doctor full stop
Deadline
is the Doctor real?
He Jest at Scars
The Valeyard won the trial of the Timelord
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Post by Digi on Sept 13, 2016 22:49:15 GMT
For whatever it's worth, I really enjoyed the Unbound release "Masters of War" (one of David Warner's).
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Post by Ela on Sept 14, 2016 0:44:24 GMT
You totally don't need to have listened to any other Unbound stories to enjoy the Benny release.
I did listen to a couple of them ages ago, but I don't remember enough about those stories for that to influence my appreciation of the Benny Unbound story one way or another.
My viewpoint is that it would be interesting to go back and re-listen to David Warner's Doctor in those other Unbound stories, but not remembering the details of those stories did not detract at all from my enjoyment of the Benny Unbound release. It can stand on its own as an enjoyable set of stories.
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Post by relativetime on Sept 14, 2016 3:49:26 GMT
As multiple people have already said above, it's not necessary to listen to the older Unbound releases to enjoy the Benny Unbound boxset... but both of David Warner's stories are brilliant, so it's totally worth listening to them. Same goes for Auld Mortality and A Storm of Angels. I can't say much about He Jests at Scars, Exile, or Deadline since I haven't listened to them, but Full Fathom Five is something I think should definitely be experienced. I can't think of a single other Big Finish story that really shook me up as much as that story did.
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Post by Ela on Sept 14, 2016 4:14:03 GMT
Totally agree that it's worth listening to the two Doctor Who Unbound stories featuring David Warner as the Doctor. I enjoyed them very much at the time. I'll go back for a re-listen one of these days.
Deadline is the only other Unbound story I've listened to so far. It was an odd one.
I've gotten all of the older Unbound stories when Big Finish has run sales on them.
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Post by bohnny on Sept 14, 2016 5:28:47 GMT
All the unbounds, bar the new box set, are permenantly reduced in price - so well worth the punt. I relistened to them all recently. Even those with a lesser reputation (exile in particular, but also he jests at scars which I personally rate lowest as it is too mired in continuity for my taste) had something to recommend them.
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Post by dangfish9 on Sept 15, 2016 22:03:23 GMT
Thanks for the input everyone. I think I'm going to get the two David Warner stories soon. Then maybe purchase the Bernice unbound set. Very keen to hear this set even though I've never heard any other Benny series stories. I've only heard her with Sylvester & Sophie on Shadow of the Scourge recently (have also read a few of the new adventures with her). Scourge left me wanting more Benny and I've always been curious about the unbound Universe...as well as being fond of Warner. Plus, the set seems to be getting good reviews.
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Post by sailorhaumea on Feb 3, 2017 18:20:06 GMT
The Unbounds are in different universes, with the Doctor having the same history as in the main universe up to a certain point.
For instance, the universe of Auld Mortality, The Innocents, and A Storm of Angels has the same history for the First Doctor until just before the Doctor is about to leave.
The universe of Exile diverges in Episode 10 of The War Games.
The universe of Sympathy for the Devil, Masters of War, and The Unbound Universe boxset diverges immediately after The Night Walkers.
The universe of He Jests at Scars... diverges during the final episode of The Ultimate Foe.
The universe of Deadline and All Our Christmases is our universe, but if Doctor Who never made it to broadcast.
Saying anything about Sustainable Energy and Full Fathom Five would be spoiling...
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Post by constonks on Feb 3, 2017 19:26:27 GMT
The Unbounds are in different universes, with the Doctor having the same history as in the main universe up to a certain point. For instance, the universe of Auld Mortality, The Innocents, and A Storm of Angels has the same history for the First Doctor until just before the Doctor is about to leave. The universe of Exile diverges in Episode 10 of The War Games. The universe of Sympathy for the Devil, Masters of War, and The Unbound Universe boxset diverges immediately after The Night Walkers. The universe of He Jests at Scars... diverges during the final episode of The Ultimate Foe. The universe of Deadline and All Our Christmases is our universe, but if Doctor Who never made it to broadcast. Saying anything about Sustainable Energy and Full Fathom Five would be spoiling... The only thing I would add is that The Exiles also features a Second(?) Doctor played by Nicholas Briggs, so it doesn't EXACTLY follow The War Games. Also, All Our Christmases is listed as being a First Doctor story in Re:Collections, so I don't think that's one from the Deadline universe. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2017 20:12:03 GMT
The Unbounds are in different universes, with the Doctor having the same history as in the main universe up to a certain point. For instance, the universe of Auld Mortality, The Innocents, and A Storm of Angels has the same history for the First Doctor until just before the Doctor is about to leave. The universe of Exile diverges in Episode 10 of The War Games. The universe of Sympathy for the Devil, Masters of War, and The Unbound Universe boxset diverges immediately after The Night Walkers. The universe of He Jests at Scars... diverges during the final episode of The Ultimate Foe. The universe of Deadline and All Our Christmases is our universe, but if Doctor Who never made it to broadcast. Saying anything about Sustainable Energy and Full Fathom Five would be spoiling... Am I missing something? I don't recognise half those titles. |
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Post by mark687 on Feb 3, 2017 20:20:48 GMT
The Unbounds are in different universes, with the Doctor having the same history as in the main universe up to a certain point. For instance, the universe of Auld Mortality, The Innocents, and A Storm of Angels has the same history for the First Doctor until just before the Doctor is about to leave. The universe of Exile diverges in Episode 10 of The War Games. The universe of Sympathy for the Devil, Masters of War, and The Unbound Universe boxset diverges immediately after The Night Walkers. The universe of He Jests at Scars... diverges during the final episode of The Ultimate Foe. The universe of Deadline and All Our Christmases is our universe, but if Doctor Who never made it to broadcast. Saying anything about Sustainable Energy and Full Fathom Five would be spoiling... Am I missing something? I don't recognise half those titles. BF Range Page
www.bigfinish.com/ranges/released/doctor-who---unbound
Regards
mark687
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Post by sailorhaumea on Feb 3, 2017 20:37:33 GMT
The Unbounds are in different universes, with the Doctor having the same history as in the main universe up to a certain point. For instance, the universe of Auld Mortality, The Innocents, and A Storm of Angels has the same history for the First Doctor until just before the Doctor is about to leave. The universe of Exile diverges in Episode 10 of The War Games. The universe of Sympathy for the Devil, Masters of War, and The Unbound Universe boxset diverges immediately after The Night Walkers. The universe of He Jests at Scars... diverges during the final episode of The Ultimate Foe. The universe of Deadline and All Our Christmases is our universe, but if Doctor Who never made it to broadcast. Saying anything about Sustainable Energy and Full Fathom Five would be spoiling... The only thing I would add is that The Exiles also features a Second(?) Doctor played by Nicholas Briggs, so it doesn't EXACTLY follow The War Games. Also, All Our Christmases is listed as being a First Doctor story in Re:Collections, so I don't think that's one from the Deadline universe. All Our Christmases is implied to be One visiting Deadline's universe. |
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Post by ulyssessarcher on Feb 3, 2017 23:48:16 GMT
So which one is about the Valeyard? Or is it more than one? It's hard to keep up with the regular universe.
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Post by constonks on Feb 4, 2017 0:13:04 GMT
So which one is about the Valeyard? Or is it more than one? It's hard to keep up with the regular universe. He Jests at Scars. |
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Post by gregm on Feb 4, 2017 7:43:30 GMT
The Unbounds are in different universes, with the Doctor having the same history as in the main universe up to a certain point. For instance, the universe of Auld Mortality, The Innocents, and A Storm of Angels has the same history for the First Doctor until just before the Doctor is about to leave. The universe of Exile diverges in Episode 10 of The War Games. The universe of Sympathy for the Devil, Masters of War, and The Unbound Universe boxset diverges immediately after The Night Walkers. The universe of He Jests at Scars... diverges during the final episode of The Ultimate Foe. The universe of Deadline and All Our Christmases is our universe, but if Doctor Who never made it to broadcast. Saying anything about Sustainable Energy and Full Fathom Five would be spoiling... Am I missing something? I don't recognise half those titles. The Innocents is a short story in Short Trips: The History of Christmas The Night Walkers is a comic story that appeared in TV Comics All Our Christmases is a short story in Short Trips: A Christmas Treasury Sustainable Energy is a short story in Short Trips: 2040. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2017 7:54:16 GMT
Am I missing something? I don't recognise half those titles. The Innocents is a short story in Short Trips: The History of Christmas The Night Walkers is a comic story that appeared in TV Comics All Our Christmases is a short story in Short Trips: A Christmas Treasury Sustainable Energy is a short story in Short Trips: 2040. Ahh right. Didn't realise there were some short stories linked to the audios. Well, here's hoping some of those books get a re-release. |
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Post by gregm on Feb 4, 2017 9:39:51 GMT
As I recall, the licence for BF to produce these books was not renewed - and without that licence, they can't make new books or reprint older ones. But I don't think it would stop BF from releasing readings of these stories
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Post by sailorhaumea on Feb 4, 2017 16:56:49 GMT
The Innocents is a short story in Short Trips: The History of Christmas The Night Walkers is a comic story that appeared in TV Comics All Our Christmases is a short story in Short Trips: A Christmas Treasury Sustainable Energy is a short story in Short Trips: 2040. Ahh right. Didn't realise there were some short stories linked to the audios. Well, here's hoping some of those books get a re-release. The Night Walkers is in the main universe, too. It's just that the events afterward are different. |
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