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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 18:53:48 GMT
Personally I think Katy Manning sounds great exactly like the Jo I remember. Really? I am not gettng that vibe from the free 'Third Doctor' episode that I listened to; but none of us probably sound like we did forty years ago anyway. (Anyone see the Batman: Return of the Caped Crusaders trailers with Adam West, Burt Ward and Julie Newmar vocally reprising their roles from the 60's? They sound different too, but it's still Batman and Robin!) Unlike Paul though, I'd never find Katy Manning annoying. She can come around and read the phone book to me - in any voice she wants - and I'd be in heaven.
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Post by The Matt on Nov 14, 2016 15:22:49 GMT
Just finished the first story. Enjoyable idea if not up to Vol.1 standards but it failed to really impress me.
the good thing is that Treloar is just getting better and better. I thought it was Pertwee on occasion. Katy Manning does a very good job of capturing what Jo sounded like all those years ago. The pair of them excelled, which is more than can be said for Bernard Holley as Karswell. His delivery was truly awful and spoilt 90% of the scenes he was in. Was he supposed to be horrible and scary? rubbish, if my boss spoke to me like that I would laugh my ass off. I hope this is the last time BF use him.
I also wasn't impressed with the sheer amount of talking to herself that Mother did in the last episode. I know it is audio and you have to know what is going on but it stretched the realms of credibility a bit.
I am hoping The Hidden Realm is a lot better
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Post by coffeeaddict on Nov 14, 2016 16:32:34 GMT
I think that for the first little bit of the first story Katy did sound off - but as the story progressed she was much closer to the Jo we all remember from TV. That said, I'm not going to let the fact that her voice has changed over the years be an issue for me, if the story, acting and production are good then I'm a happy camper.
Frankly to my ear she sounded more like Jo than Matthew Waterhouse sounded like Adric in the Fifth Doctor box set.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 14, 2016 20:23:03 GMT
I think that for the first little bit of the first story Katy did sound off - but as the story progressed she was much closer to the Jo we all remember from TV. That said, I'm not going to let the fact that her voice has changed over the years be an issue for me, if the story, acting and production are good then I'm a happy camper. Frankly to my ear she sounded more like Jo than Matthew Waterhouse sounded like Adric in the Fifth Doctor box set. I would say that both Katy Manning, Wendy Padbury, and Carole Ann Ford sound older, but have voices that are still very recognizable as the characters they played. William Russell, Deborah Watling, and Matthew Waterhouse don't sound anything like they did on TV. Most of the rest of Big Finish's main Who actors sound exactly the same as they did on TV.
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Post by relativetime on Nov 15, 2016 2:21:40 GMT
I think that for the first little bit of the first story Katy did sound off - but as the story progressed she was much closer to the Jo we all remember from TV. That said, I'm not going to let the fact that her voice has changed over the years be an issue for me, if the story, acting and production are good then I'm a happy camper. Frankly to my ear she sounded more like Jo than Matthew Waterhouse sounded like Adric in the Fifth Doctor box set. I would say that both Katy Manning, Wendy Padbury, and Carole Ann Ford sound older, but have voices that are still very recognizable as the characters they played. William Russell, Deborah Watling, and Matthew Waterhouse don't sound anything like they did on TV. Most of the rest of Big Finish's main Who actors sound exactly the same as they did on TV. Well, I'd say Peter Davison's voice is noticeably more gravelly and Colin's voice is a tad less sharp. I think Sylvester McCoy's voice is the only one that sounds almost EXACTLY as it did on television. On the companion side of things, I think I only really notice the differences between Louise Jameson's voice on audio and television when I watch them back to back - same for Katy Manning - but I literally can barely tell the difference between Nicola Bryant's voice on television and on audio.
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Post by xeryus63 on Nov 15, 2016 19:48:43 GMT
I thought the free episode was very good
It was a great sample and Tim Treloar Was great as the 3rd doctor
I personally think Tim Treloar just keeps getting better and like was said earlier Mark Elstrob is the only other one I think who has excelled himself as much in their preparation , research and overall immersion in the part
I also think Katy Manning does a great job of turning the clock back The only companion who I feel sounds totally unlike the younger version of themselves is Deborah Watling But that's only to be expected given the timescale, it's just we've been spoilt by the excellent performances of other companions especially Nicola Bryant et al
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Post by agentten on Nov 21, 2016 0:29:33 GMT
I enjoyed this set a great deal. I felt both stories captured the spirit of the era while still sounding fresh. After a couple of minutes I forgot I was listening to Tim Treloar and not Jon Pertwee. He's really putting in an impressive performance. It's not just a mechanical impression of Pertwee (though the mechanics are quite good) but it's also got real passion, energy and charm to it. He and Katy Manning worked very well together, too.
The Transcendence of Ephros is nicely paced and I hardly noticed the time pass. I hope we'll be hearing more from Richenda Carey's Mother Finsey as I felt her character is a nice solution to one of the problems of producing stories from the Third Doctor era. The Hidden Realm had a wonderfully creepy vibe to it, thanks to some intelligent production choices and a fantastic score. I felt the cast was in particularly good form in this one, especially Manning.
All in all, I am thrilled with the care that Big Finish used in recreating this era and the effort that's gone into recasting the Third Doctor. It's all working very well for me and I'm excited for volume 3.
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Post by nottenst on May 15, 2017 18:00:07 GMT
Finished the Hidden Realm this weekend. Both stories were lots of fun. The twist in The Transcendence of Ephros was great and I hope we see "Mother" in another adventure down the line.
In Hidden Realm - I was surprised that they were able to swap Peter and Stephanie back again. I thought they were gone for good. I think they were the only ones who could be swapped back. All the others were long gone, right? It didn't seem entirely clear. Richard Earl was great as Finch - both as inspector and imposter. Quite different from Watson.
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 1, 2019 15:01:16 GMT
I’ve just finished The Transference of Ephros. I can’t sing its praises enough. Treolar really steps up in this one and the lack of narration really sells his portrayal. It helps that he’s being written as doing very Third Doctor things, rather than just dashing around sounding like Jon Pertwee. Katy Manning is great as Jo too.
Ephros does what the best Third Doctor stories do and gives you something to think about. Great cliffhanger to part three too, it’s a nice workaround to the lack of Delgado and it paints a little backstory for him too. We don’t doubt that Beevers or Jacobi would conquer and destroy a world, but it’s not something that I’d associate with Delgado, despite being an incarnation of the same character. I think it’s because he’s used heavily on screen and it’s not something we tend to see, so it’s good to hear what he gets up to when not on 70s (or is it the 80s...?) Earth!
Speaking of The Master, I’m surprised we haven’t had a pre-disfigured Beevers pop up in a Third Doctor set yet. Setting it up in The Two Masters made me think it’d happen at some point.
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Post by shallacatop on Feb 12, 2019 21:26:17 GMT
Took me a little while, but I’ve got round to The Hidden Realm. It’s good, but I think it loses its way in the final part. I feel as though it should’ve been a five or six parter. It builds up really well and then we get to part four, where Jo seems to know everything and the story is just quickly resolved. It’s like there’s a middle act missing.
Production wise, it suffers a little from having a small cast, I think. The inclusion of UNIT would’ve done the trick. The soundtrack is brilliant, though, and Treolar is fantastic. I think he sounds a tiny bit more like the Third Doctor when he’s playing him possessed!
Another great set overall. There’s something very authentic and cosy about this range that works. Lovely stuff.
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Feb 13, 2019 11:50:13 GMT
Speaking of The Master, I’m surprised we haven’t had a pre-disfigured Beevers pop up in a Third Doctor set yet. Setting it up in The Two Masters made me think it’d happen at some point. I thought that too at the time, but now that BF have recast Liz and the Brigadier I think we are more likely to see a recast Delgado than a pre-Deadly Assassin Beevers
I'd be happy with either, but in my dream scenario we'd get both, including a Master regeneration story
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Post by masterdoctor on Dec 17, 2023 6:48:48 GMT
The Transcendence of Ephros by Guy Adams
Love this one so much, and a relisten did nothing to change that. The cast and the writing are some of the best of Big Finish, and that cliffhanger for part 3 is just a classic in my eyes. I really like Shallactop’s mention of the best 3rd Doctor stories making you think, which I completely agree with. And I truly think Guy Adams is one of the best writer’s for Jo and the Third Doctor, so I do hope someday he gets the chance to write for them again.
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Post by number13 on Dec 17, 2023 12:39:00 GMT
The Transcendence of Ephros by Guy Adams Love this one so much, and a relisten did nothing to change that. The cast and the writing are some of the best of Big Finish, and that cliffhanger for part 3 is just a classic in my eyes. I really like Shallactop’s mention of the best 3rd Doctor stories making you think, which I completely agree with. And I truly think Guy Adams is one of the best writer’s for Jo and the Third Doctor, so I do hope someday he gets the chance to write for them again. Agree, it's a classic of the 3DAs and that cliffhanger was one of the great WOW! moments of BF.
This and 'The Scream of Ghosts' are Guy Adams' best Third Doctor stories to date for me, almost like genuine 'lost' stories where the soundtracks have somehow survived. 'The Poison Sky' might have matched them, but for the fact that the Doctor was somewhat sidelined in his own range in favour of a rather annoying guest character!
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Post by elkawho on Dec 17, 2023 17:01:07 GMT
The Transcendence of Ephros by Guy Adams Love this one so much, and a relisten did nothing to change that. The cast and the writing are some of the best of Big Finish, and that cliffhanger for part 3 is just a classic in my eyes. I really like Shallactop’s mention of the best 3rd Doctor stories making you think, which I completely agree with. And I truly think Guy Adams is one of the best writer’s for Jo and the Third Doctor, so I do hope someday he gets the chance to write for them again. We've had a number of terrific Thrid Doctor stories in this range since this was released, but I think it's still my favorite. Just a fantastic story. I've said it multiple times, and I'll say it again. I miss Guy Adams.
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