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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2016 4:32:27 GMT
On that note, a Fifth Doctor, Nyssa and Tegan story set between Earthshock and Time-Flight, where they deal with the death of Adric. Like Nyssa's father, it's barely even mentioned and everyone seems unaffected by what is a significant event. A couple of audios have touched upon it, but usually it's a small moment in a larger story. A whole story based purely on how the three of them deal the grief would be very emotionally touching. Personally, I would love to see this. Nyssa's single line of "Cyberfleet dispersed," during Time-Flight certainly opens up the possibility of a two-handed Companion Chronicle tale with Nyssa and Tegan. Who knows? With the disappearance of the Cyber-Leader and the freighter, the fleet may have decided to enact whatever failsafe they had in place should the vanguard have failed. Just as an aside, Justin Richards's The Sands of Time has a marvellous little passage about how Tegan coped with Adric's death: It's really interesting looking at these earlier books about the Web of Time and how it takes a monumental force to upset the natural course of history when compared with much more recent stories where a drop in the ocean can cause a tidal wave (see this novel vs. something like The Waters of Amsterdam). The time loop in that story works really well because events are preordained by the actions the characters are taking in that moment. They cannot alter events because from their timeframe they've already made those decisions. You can't fight history because when it comes down to it, your future actions will inform your present motives causing your future actions. You are who you are. You cannot act against your own nature.
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Post by icecreamdf on Nov 10, 2016 6:13:33 GMT
Even if it is just a Short Trip, a story where Nyssa has a proper chance to work through the fact her father has been taken over by the Master and all the emotions that she should be feeling. It's skated over in the TV show, and Nyssa hasn't had that many Master stories to process how she feels about it. On that note, a Fifth Doctor, Nyssa and Tegan story set between Earthshock and Time-Flight, where they deal with the death of Adric. Like Nyssa's father, it's barely even mentioned and everyone seems unaffected by what is a significant event. A couple of audios have touched upon it, but usually it's a small moment in a larger story. A whole story based purely on how the three of them deal the grief would be very emotionally touching. Didn't Gardens of the Dead deal with Nyssa's grief about her father being the Master? I don't really remember the details of that one, but I'm pretty sure it was at least touched on. I'm not sure if they can really go into that issue in depth without Anthony Ainley though. Didn't Time-Flight pick up immediately where Earth Shock left off?
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Post by omega on Nov 10, 2016 8:14:02 GMT
Even if it is just a Short Trip, a story where Nyssa has a proper chance to work through the fact her father has been taken over by the Master and all the emotions that she should be feeling. It's skated over in the TV show, and Nyssa hasn't had that many Master stories to process how she feels about it. On that note, a Fifth Doctor, Nyssa and Tegan story set between Earthshock and Time-Flight, where they deal with the death of Adric. Like Nyssa's father, it's barely even mentioned and everyone seems unaffected by what is a significant event. A couple of audios have touched upon it, but usually it's a small moment in a larger story. A whole story based purely on how the three of them deal the grief would be very emotionally touching. Didn't Gardens of the Dead deal with Nyssa's grief about her father being the Master? I don't really remember the details of that one, but I'm pretty sure it was at least touched on. I'm not sure if they can really go into that issue in depth without Anthony Ainley though. Didn't Time-Flight pick up immediately where Earth Shock left off? Gardens of the Dead is more of a Turlough story, and how he copes with his deal with the Black Guardian. A story from Nyssa's perspective on what has happened to her father would be more like it. There could have been an hour or so where the Doctor, Nyssa and Tegan worked through their feelings, helping each other come to an understanding.
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Post by aztec on Nov 10, 2016 10:00:49 GMT
More Fitz Kriener, male companions are a rarity and Fitz's personality and history lends itself to alot of humour and tragedy.
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Post by omega on Nov 10, 2016 10:07:22 GMT
More Fitz Kriener, male companions are a rarity and Fitz's personality and history lends itself to alot of humour and tragedy. True. After Jamie the first male companion figure who travels in the TARDIS is Harry (even then it's only two trips and no interior scenes with him), then Turlough and that's it for the Classic Series.
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Post by bobod on Nov 10, 2016 10:12:54 GMT
More Fitz Kriener, male companions are a rarity and Fitz's personality and history lends itself to alot of humour and tragedy. True. After Jamie the first male companion figure who travels in the TARDIS is Harry (even then it's only two trips and no interior scenes with him), then Turlough and that's it for the Classic Series. The reference book that is jbmasta seems to be missing an Adric-shaped page.
No gold star for you.
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Post by omega on Nov 10, 2016 10:26:02 GMT
True. After Jamie the first male companion figure who travels in the TARDIS is Harry (even then it's only two trips and no interior scenes with him), then Turlough and that's it for the Classic Series. The reference book that is jbmasta seems to be missing an Adric-shaped page.
No gold star for you.
The freighter's unexpected temporal jump sent a temporal shockwave that temporarily made me forget about one of the Fifth Doctor's best companions. I've remembered know, so Operation Suicidal Trojan will has been thwarted. I'm not trying to raise any gender issues, but how many Classic TV stories start out with, end with or fully feature just the Doctor and a full-time male companion? The first time would have to be the end of Dalek's Master Plan, then The Massacre for the First Doctor and Steven. Evil of the Daleks starts out with the Second Doctor and Jamie, but Victoria joins at the end. It's just Second and Jamie at the end of Fury from the Deep and start of Wheel in Space, but then it's a long gap until the end of Warriors' Gate, whole of Keeper of Traken (Nyssa wasn't a companion at that stage, just a guest character) and start of Logopolis for the Fourth Doctor and Adric. End of Resurrection of the Daleks to start of Planet of Fire for the Fifth Doctor and Turlough. Then look at how many stories feature just a female companion. Sarah was around before, during and after the stories featuring Harry. Ian and Ben were tied to Barbara and Polly for time spent in the TARDIS. The UNIT staff only came on board once. In short, more all-male TARDIS team stories would be great
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Post by dasmaniac on Nov 10, 2016 21:37:27 GMT
Even if it is just a Short Trip, a story where Nyssa has a proper chance to work through the fact her father has been taken over by the Master and all the emotions that she should be feeling. It's skated over in the TV show, and Nyssa hasn't had that many Master stories to process how she feels about it. On that note, a Fifth Doctor, Nyssa and Tegan story set between Earthshock and Time-Flight, where they deal with the death of Adric. Like Nyssa's father, it's barely even mentioned and everyone seems unaffected by what is a significant event. A couple of audios have touched upon it, but usually it's a small moment in a larger story. A whole story based purely on how the three of them deal the grief would be very emotionally touching. I have long wanted someone to write a story where Nyssa has to really deal with the fact that her father isn't really there anymore. There's still the question of whether or not her father is dead. The Master uses the Keeper powers to sort of merge himself with Tremas. It is Tremas' body so is he still in there somewhere?
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Post by mbt66 on Nov 12, 2016 17:19:52 GMT
I thought this might be a nice idea for a thread: stories, concepts, etc that we're surprised Big Finish haven't done yet. I am surprised that Big Finish haven't already answered the Question Marks Question. Why did the Doctor look so sad at the beginning of The Leisure Hive Why did the Doctor start wearing such dark and somber clothes Why did the Doctor start wearing Question Marks? I have my own theory, but I am surprised that Big Finish haven't given us that "origin story"
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Post by shutupbanks on Nov 14, 2016 4:13:33 GMT
Captain Jack Harkness, who is killing time while waiting for himself to be born so that he can find out what happened to his two missing years*, goes to a bar late in the 49th Century. He meets a doctor who is being transferred out to the Bi-Al Foundation and is having a last night out. The two strike up a conversation and the doctor remarks that he is looking forward to the assignment but wishes he could take his dog with him. Captain Jack grins and says, "Y'know what..."
*actually a story I'd like to hear.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 9:59:14 GMT
Since BF has a tendency to explore the companions lives after the Doctor or after they last Tv story(Leela and Romana on Gallifrey, Tegan in 2006, older Nyssa, Peri after Yrcanos and recently Mel) I find strange that we havent heard about Turlough after returning to Trion. I would like a trilogy with an older Turlough set after Planet of Fire) I think I would really enjoy hearing a group of these stories from Marc Platt. He seemed to have a really definite idea of Trion in his head when he was writing Loups-Garoux. I kind of imagined it as a cross between Arrakis from Children of Dune and Rann from the Adam Strange comics.
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Post by bobod on Nov 14, 2016 10:30:53 GMT
I thought this might be a nice idea for a thread: stories, concepts, etc that we're surprised Big Finish haven't done yet. I am surprised that Big Finish haven't already answered the Question Marks Question. Why did the Doctor look so sad at the beginning of The Leisure Hive Why did the Doctor start wearing such dark and somber clothes Why did the Doctor start wearing Question Marks? I have my own theory, but I am surprised that Big Finish haven't given us that "origin story" Personally I hope they don't. Addressing why someone is wearing different clothes seems a bit redundant.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 11:43:54 GMT
I am surprised that Big Finish haven't already answered the Question Marks Question. Why did the Doctor look so sad at the beginning of The Leisure Hive Why did the Doctor start wearing such dark and somber clothes Why did the Doctor start wearing Question Marks? I have my own theory, but I am surprised that Big Finish haven't given us that "origin story" Personally I hope they don't. Addressing why someone is wearing different clothes seems a bit redundant. It can always be stuck in as an off-handed remark like The Assassination Games or Real Time. I would like to explore why the Fourth Doctor is so pensive in his final year, a Watsonian explanation for the real life goings on.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 12:27:51 GMT
Personally I hope they don't. Addressing why someone is wearing different clothes seems a bit redundant. It can always be stuck in as an off-handed remark like The Assassination Games or Real Time. I would like to explore why the Fourth Doctor is so pensive in his final year, a Watsonian explanation for the real life goings on. Personally I find putting The Neutron Knights before Leisure Hive really sets the tone. That series of comic strips starts with the old manic Doctor in the new outfit, but by the end he has really changed in tone.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 12:32:17 GMT
How about Lytton's child mentioned by the SJA lot?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 13:34:31 GMT
It can always be stuck in as an off-handed remark like The Assassination Games or Real Time. I would like to explore why the Fourth Doctor is so pensive in his final year, a Watsonian explanation for the real life goings on. Personally I find putting The Neutron Knights before Leisure Hive really sets the tone. That series of comic strips starts with the old manic Doctor in the new outfit, but by the end he has really changed in tone. That's a really good theory actually, those stories written by Steve Moore have a really dark undercurrent to them towards the end. I've always placed The Neutron Knights just before Logopolis as it has the Doctor pondering his powerless in the face of his own future. For me at least, there's a grumpiness to him in The Leisure Hive, but not a despondency like in that last story. He seems to have gotten a little bit of that spark back in The Keeper of Traken, so it feels like there's been a bit of time between the two. Enough that he's started to get a bit dissatisfied with how he's running his own life.
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Post by kimalysong on Nov 15, 2016 19:12:42 GMT
So apparently someone mentioned bobod 's suggestion to Peter and Frazer this weekend and they acted out scene together as the 1st and 2nd Doctor. I am very disappointed to say I missed this particular panel.
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Post by bobod on Nov 15, 2016 22:15:42 GMT
So apparently someone mentioned bobod 's suggestion to Peter and Frazer this weekend and they acted out scene together as the 1st and 2nd Doctor. I am very disappointed to say I missed this particular panel. hooray and boo. Love them both.
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