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Post by doomlord on Mar 31, 2017 23:14:28 GMT
I was at a Buffy con in 2001 and it was a free autograph from all the guests...but entry was a lot more than the £15, it was about 3 times that 16 years ago. So we paid up front rather than person by person but someone has to pay the guests or they don't come. It's not charity. They don't owe you the experience. Were you at any of the Nocturnal cons? I went as one of the Gentlemen from Hush and my girlfriend and mates came First Prize in the costume competition as the Hannah-Barbera 'Scooby Gang'!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 23:29:20 GMT
I was at a Buffy con in 2001 and it was a free autograph from all the guests...but entry was a lot more than the £15, it was about 3 times that 16 years ago. So we paid up front rather than person by person but someone has to pay the guests or they don't come. It's not charity. They don't owe you the experience. Were you at any of the Nocturnal cons? I went as one of the Gentlemen from Hush and my girlfriend and mates came First Prize in the costume competition as the Hannah-Barbera 'Scooby Gang'! I went to a few Buffy and Angel ones from 2000-2004, the bigger ones I think were organised by Starfury and some locally produced ones. I met mot of the main cast from each though never SMG or David Boreanaz. Glen Quinn was supposed to be at one but he passed away before the event, putting a real kinda downer on it. Andy Hallett was at that one and he'd be dead a few years later too, both only in their 30s. I've seen crazy fans in various fandoms, I've been to cons, concerts and Celtic-Rangers games, but I've never seen people go so nuts as they did for James Marsters in 2001 when he came over here. There was an event where he was the only guest and it was chaos. Great events though and by far the nicest fandom I've experienced, lots of good people. It all felt so very niche then, now when genre tv is as mainstream as anything and the geeks have inherited the earth,I guess it doesn't feel quite the same, somehow as cons tend to be all encompassing rather than for certain shows, movies and comics.
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Post by doomlord on Mar 31, 2017 23:57:12 GMT
The Nocturnals were organised by the Sector 14 bunch. Nocturnal2K, the last one I attended had James Marsters, Anthony Stewart Head, Andy Hallett, Julie Benz, Robin Atkin-Downes, Sophia Crawford, Jeff Pruit, Greg Solomon. Come the disco, I actually ended up doing the Pogo to the Sex Pistol's 'God Save The Queen' with James Marsters on the dance floor, I mean literally with him, his hands on my shoulders and vice-versa! Now that was one disco I was happy to stay with, then again I had my girlfriend in-tow as she was even a bigger fan than I was. Plus, the women at these Buffy cons far outnumbered the fellas, so I was even more happy to stay because of all the skimpy costumes some of them were wearing... not that my eyes were wandering, no sir *coughs*!
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Post by doomlord on Apr 1, 2017 0:21:39 GMT
DB, I followed that Tweet before it was deleted here and it puzzles me why you're so gallant when it comes to diversity and representation of LGBT, POC and disabilities yet reading an earlier tweet from yesterday you're so adverse to a POC playing a now grown-up version of Hermione in the HP: Cursed Child stage play? It's almost as though you're two persons.
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Post by kimalysong on Apr 1, 2017 3:18:14 GMT
Joseph Lidster is also at this con, another very cool guest
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 7:42:58 GMT
So don't buy an autograph. Just go and enjoy the convention. Why would I go to a convention and not get an autograph or picture? Pointless waste of time. To have fun? But seriously, you've wanted a convention in your area for a long time. Now you're blessed with one in your home town and you can only react by saying you want entry and autographs for a tenner? Put a positive spin on it, you won't need to pay for travel or hotel bookings, all that saving will pay for a lot of autographs.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 1, 2017 7:45:44 GMT
Why would I go to a convention and not get an autograph or picture? Pointless waste of time. To have fun? But seriously, you've wanted a convention in your area for a long time. Now you're blessed with one in your home town and you can only react by saying you want entry and autographs for a tenner? Put a positive spin on it, you won't need to pay for travel or hotel bookings, all that saving will pay for a lot of autographs. Not when if you want three you end up paying at least £50 and they probably won't have card machines on every desk. I'd rather run my own convention and tell the celebs that if they are going to charge they have to give half the money they make to a charity of their choice.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 7:46:21 GMT
DB, I followed that Tweet before it was deleted here and it puzzles me why you're so gallant when it comes to diversity and representation of LGBT, POC and disabilities yet reading an earlier tweet from yesterday you're so adverse to a POC playing a now grown-up version of Hermione in the HP: Cursed Child stage play? It's almost as though you're two persons. I can understand that to be honest. With DB having autism any unexpected change will be very upsetting to him. If he loves Harry Potter movies then it would be very important to him for the play to be faithful to them and he'd find it hard to cope with such a change. Obviously deleting the tweet was the sensible thing to do.
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Post by doomlord on Apr 1, 2017 12:29:15 GMT
Why would I go to a convention and not get an autograph or picture? Pointless waste of time. To have fun? But seriously, you've wanted a convention in your area for a long time. Now you're blessed with one in your home town and you can only react by saying you want entry and autographs for a tenner? Put a positive spin on it, you won't need to pay for travel or hotel bookings, all that saving will pay for a lot of autographs. Didn't something similar happen when Ant & Dec's Takeaway went to Scarborough? Lots of pining for it to come to Scarborough and when it finally does, he refused to go?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 1, 2017 12:32:10 GMT
To have fun? But seriously, you've wanted a convention in your area for a long time. Now you're blessed with one in your home town and you can only react by saying you want entry and autographs for a tenner? Put a positive spin on it, you won't need to pay for travel or hotel bookings, all that saving will pay for a lot of autographs. Didn't something similar happen when Ant & Dec's Takeaway went to Scarborough? Lots of pining for it to come to Scarborough and when it finally does, he refused to go? I didn't go because I found out there was no TV down there to watch it on, so I would end up missing half an hour of the show live just to find that Scarborough wouldn't be picked (it wasn't). I was prepared to go if there was a TV.
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Post by doomlord on Apr 1, 2017 12:54:21 GMT
Didn't something similar happen when Ant & Dec's Takeaway went to Scarborough? Lots of pining for it to come to Scarborough and when it finally does, he refused to go? I didn't go because I found out there was no TV down there to watch it on, so I would end up missing half an hour of the show live just to find that Scarborough wouldn't be picked (it wasn't). I was prepared to go if there was a TV. Whether Scarborough was picked or not is completely irrelevant. How do you know if there wasn't a monitor (which they usually do have in OB situations) of some kind if you didn't go anyway? Doesn't the once in lifetime experience (and good chance of winning) far outweigh the broadcast of a television show (you could potentially be involved in, in more ways than one)? Even if you did or did not win, you were part of that production. Even if you didn't travel by family car, your car (if you drive), taxi, bus, bicycle, I reckon you could have walked it back home in under an hour and to catch the broadcast and yourself (winning or not winning) on the ITV+1 anyway. You could have also watched it the following day as it also broadcast on Sunday afternoon. Oh well, chance gone. I suppose if the 'TV' thing is the thing you tell yourself to make things seem better for you, then fair enough.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 1, 2017 13:25:29 GMT
I didn't go because I found out there was no TV down there to watch it on, so I would end up missing half an hour of the show live just to find that Scarborough wouldn't be picked (it wasn't). I was prepared to go if there was a TV. Whether Scarborough was picked or not is completely irrelevant. Not really. It's called not wanting to waste your time. I asked someone who was at the location before I decided whether to go and they said there wasn't. Not much of an opportunity if you're sat in the cold for half an hour with no TV to watch, only to find out nobody from Scarborough would win. Not really the same as watching it live. I refused to go out of principle because I believed there should have been a TV there. Especially when these people make the effort to go down and they don't let them watch the show.
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Post by doomlord on Apr 1, 2017 13:38:33 GMT
Whether Scarborough was picked or not is completely irrelevant. Not really. It's called not wanting to waste your time. I asked someone who was at the location before I decided whether to go and they said there wasn't. Not much of an opportunity if you're sat in the cold for half an hour with no TV to watch, only to find out nobody from Scarborough would win. Not really the same as watching it live. I refused to go out of principle because I believed there should have been a TV there. Especially when these people make the effort to go down and they don't let them watch the show. Yes really. You couldn't possibly know if you were wasting your time? You had every opportunity. Not really the same as actually being involved in the production. As I said earlier, you keep telling yourself that.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 1, 2017 13:46:51 GMT
Not really. It's called not wanting to waste your time. I asked someone who was at the location before I decided whether to go and they said there wasn't. Not much of an opportunity if you're sat in the cold for half an hour with no TV to watch, only to find out nobody from Scarborough would win. Not really the same as watching it live. I refused to go out of principle because I believed there should have been a TV there. Especially when these people make the effort to go down and they don't let them watch the show. Yes really. You couldn't possibly know if you were wasting your time? You had every opportunity. Not really the same as actually being involved in the production. As I said earlier, you keep telling yourself that. 1. No, you don't know. But the probability that it will be a waste of time is much higher. 2. Opportunity for what? Doesn't make sense at all. 3. But you're not properly involved. All you're doing is waving and stepping forward if you're chosen. 4. Not 'to make things seem better' for me though. I wanted to go when I found out it was Scarborough but changed my mind when I realised there was no TV to watch the show on because I don't agree with the principle of it. It's morally dubious when the show is ridding their fans who have spent time and money to go down from being able to watch the show live.
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Post by doomlord on Apr 1, 2017 14:41:24 GMT
Yes really. You couldn't possibly know if you were wasting your time? You had every opportunity. Not really the same as actually being involved in the production. As I said earlier, you keep telling yourself that. 1. No, you don't know. But the probability that it will be a waste of time is much higher. 2. Opportunity for what? Doesn't make sense at all. 3. But you're not properly involved. All you're doing is waving and stepping forward if you're chosen. 4. Not 'to make things seem better' for me though. I wanted to go when I found out it was Scarborough but changed my mind when I realised there was no TV to watch the show on because I don't agree with the principle of it. It's morally dubious when the show is ridding their fans who have spent time and money to go down from being able to watch the show live. 1. Exactly, you don't know, that's what I'm telling you. Probabilities are irrelevant. Remember, you wanted the show to come to your town, it did. 2. It's all very easy in hindsight but if you can't make sense of my post, then I suggest reading back your post and the relevant quote to make sense of it, after all, you brought up, opportunity. 3. You are involved, you're on TV as part of the gamble which is the very nature of the game. I don't think anyone attending is under the impression that they have to take on a production role when they're down there. Why do you think the crowds turned up in the first place? Waving whilst being on TV is fun anyway. As for 'all you're doing is stepping forward if your chosen', I think it's a bit more than that, isn't it, as in you win something, holiday, prizes, whatever? 4. 'Morally dubious'? Hmm, okay then. I don't think the local people splashed out loads of money to travel to the town they already live in, in fact the ones that walked or cycled there didn't spend a penny. They didn't rid the fans of anything, they gave them an experience of fun whether they won or not instead of sitting at home and sulking. They all went home afterwards to watch themselves on ITV+1. As for time, well I didn't know yours was so precious. No hours of playing video games for you then, I take it.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 1, 2017 14:48:19 GMT
I don't care if it seems miserable, I just don't think it is the right way to treat your viewers. There should be a TV so you don't miss the show.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 14:56:14 GMT
Looking back, DB, are you glad you didn't go? Do you feel you proved a point by not going?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 1, 2017 15:06:46 GMT
Looking back, DB, are you glad you didn't go? Do you feel you proved a point by not going? I'm glad I didn't go because otherwise it would have meant sacrificing my principles.
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Post by doomlord on Apr 1, 2017 15:23:52 GMT
Then you're your own worst enemy, I'm sorry to say. It's not like television is a religion or anything. Have some fun, live a little, even if you don't come out on top.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Apr 1, 2017 15:32:54 GMT
Then you're your own worst enemy, I'm sorry to say. . Sounds fun. Do I get a goatee and a sinister staff?
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