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Post by randomjc on Dec 26, 2015 2:30:26 GMT
And Supergirl niggle I have is calling her Kara Danvers. I'm sorry, but I get Kara Zor-El, and living with the Danvers means she gets that name, but it is far to close to Carol Danvers, and that's always what I say whenever I start to say her full name.
To be fair, Supergirl was known as "Kara" (Zor-El) and (Linda) "Danvers" long before Marvel introduced head of Security, Carol Danvers in Captain Marvel (not that Marvel were going for originality as at least 2 other publishers had featured "Captain Marvel"s before). To be fair, Linda Danvers was introduced in the nineties, a good 30 years after Carol.
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Post by Timelord007 on Dec 26, 2015 10:43:28 GMT
Mrs Browns Boys, i needed a good laugh after watching Husbands Of River Song.
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Dec 26, 2015 15:35:11 GMT
To be fair, Supergirl was known as "Kara" (Zor-El) and (Linda) "Danvers" long before Marvel introduced head of Security, Carol Danvers in Captain Marvel (not that Marvel were going for originality as at least 2 other publishers had featured "Captain Marvel"s before). To be fair, Linda Danvers was introduced in the nineties, a good 30 years after Carol. wrong, you are thinking of the non-Kryptonian "Matrix" Supergirl from post Crisis-on-Infinite-Earths/New Earth continuity but Supergirl existed before that (DC has 4 separate continuities, Golden Age, Silver age, Post-Crisis/New Earth and Post-Flashpoint/New 52) Supergirl made her debut in 1959 (Silver Age) as orphan Linda Lee and changed her name when she was adopted by the Danvers family in 1961 (okay "long before" may have been an exaggeration and I probably should have said "years before")
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Post by randomjc on Dec 26, 2015 20:20:07 GMT
To be fair, Linda Danvers was introduced in the nineties, a good 30 years after Carol. wrong, you are thinking of the non-Kryptonian "Matrix" Supergirl from post Crisis-on-Infinite-Earths/New Earth continuity but Supergirl existed before that (DC has 4 separate continuities, Golden Age, Silver age, Post-Crisis/New Earth and Post-Flashpoint/New 52) Supergirl made her debut in 1959 (Silver Age) as orphan Linda Lee and changed her name when she was adopted by the Danvers family in 1961 (okay "long before" may have been an exaggeration and I probably should have said "years before") I am wrong. Still doesn't make calling her Kara Danvers any less stupid. Since she was never called Kara Danvers in the comics. It was Linda Danvers and Kara El. It's like calling Superman Kal Kent. So I'm sticking with I can't say Kara Danvers without saying Carol Danvers.
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Post by omega on Dec 26, 2015 23:37:39 GMT
Stargate Universe episodes The Hunt, Common Descent and Epilogue. Only two more episodes left to go.
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Post by kimalysong on Dec 30, 2015 0:16:09 GMT
Watched Versailles...I try to only watch things legally these days but while this was picked up all over the world still no announcement of a US release and I really wanted to see it (I ended up importing the DVD from France to make up for downloading it. I have a guilty conscious)
Anyways it will be airing in the UK later in 2016 so I doubt many people have seen it here. It's an enjoyable series which definitely improves as it goes on. Not exactly historically accurate and a bit too much sex for my taste (because of course sex sells) but it's well acted and most of the plot threads come together quite well in the end in my opinion. The most interesting & complex relationship of the series for me is the two brothers: Louis (played by George Blagden) & Philipe (played by our very own Dorian). But there are a bunch of other interesting male & female characters in the series.
The second series was already commissioned so looking forward to that.
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Post by elkawho on Dec 30, 2015 3:42:43 GMT
I've been binge watching Outlander for the last 2 days. (Or at least trying to. Verizon slows down their internet after 10:00 so that makes it hard to download from the On Demand menu. Bastards.) I love the novels but am only now getting to the TV series. Sam Heughen is my new celebrity crush. I fell in love with Jamie when I read the books, and even more so now. Looking forward to Frazer's appearance, even if it is a small one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2015 3:22:22 GMT
Just finished the Parks and Recreation Season 6 finale.... ....only to discover season seven isn't out in ANY format here in Australia .
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Post by omega on Dec 31, 2015 4:44:21 GMT
Just finished the Parks and Recreation Season 6 finale.... ....only to discover season seven isn't out in ANY format here in Australia . The internet may be your only solution. It's a great final season, and the big finale is a perfect way to see out the show.
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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 31, 2015 5:54:05 GMT
wrong, you are thinking of the non-Kryptonian "Matrix" Supergirl from post Crisis-on-Infinite-Earths/New Earth continuity but Supergirl existed before that (DC has 4 separate continuities, Golden Age, Silver age, Post-Crisis/New Earth and Post-Flashpoint/New 52) Supergirl made her debut in 1959 (Silver Age) as orphan Linda Lee and changed her name when she was adopted by the Danvers family in 1961 (okay "long before" may have been an exaggeration and I probably should have said "years before") I am wrong. Still doesn't make calling her Kara Danvers any less stupid. Since she was never called Kara Danvers in the comics. It was Linda Danvers and Kara El. It's like calling Superman Kal Kent. So I'm sticking with I can't say Kara Danvers without saying Carol Danvers. Well, it makes more sense. Unlike Clark, Kara grew up knowing her Kryptonian name, but using her Kryptonian surname would kind of give away who she was. Kara Danvers sounds like an Earth name, and she doesn't need to needlessly change her first name. Besides, its not exactly absurd for two people to have kind of similar names.
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Post by randomjc on Dec 31, 2015 9:44:58 GMT
I am wrong. Still doesn't make calling her Kara Danvers any less stupid. Since she was never called Kara Danvers in the comics. It was Linda Danvers and Kara El. It's like calling Superman Kal Kent. So I'm sticking with I can't say Kara Danvers without saying Carol Danvers. Well, it makes more sense. Unlike Clark, Kara grew up knowing her Kryptonian name, but using her Kryptonian surname would kind of give away who she was. Kara Danvers sounds like an Earth name, and she doesn't need to needlessly change her first name. Besides, its not exactly absurd for two people to have kind of similar names. it's not. But I do believe I started with this as a pointless thing that bothers me.
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Post by elkawho on Jan 2, 2016 5:06:02 GMT
I am completely binging on Outlander right now. As a fan of the book, I really love this show and am so happy with how they handled the first season. And I've got the theme song securely wedged in my brain.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 13:48:47 GMT
I am completely binging on Outlander right now. As a fan of the book, I really love this show and am so happy with how they handled the first season. And I've got the theme song securely wedged in my brain. I cant handle it Elka, sorry. It's that tartan-shortbread-Brigadoon mystical Scotland thing that I find really patronizing whenever we get it on TV.
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Post by kimalysong on Jan 2, 2016 14:26:10 GMT
I am completely binging on Outlander right now. As a fan of the book, I really love this show and am so happy with how they handled the first season. And I've got the theme song securely wedged in my brain. I cant handle it Elka, sorry. It's that tartan-shortbread-Brigadoon mystical Scotland thing that I find really patronizing whenever we get it on TV. I have mixed feelings on it myself but for different reasons than you. But I watched the first season and read the first two books because of its connection with Jamie/Frazer Hines. I guess you can say Jamie is kind of a Scottish stereotype too right?
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Post by elkawho on Jan 2, 2016 14:28:16 GMT
I am completely binging on Outlander right now. As a fan of the book, I really love this show and am so happy with how they handled the first season. And I've got the theme song securely wedged in my brain. I cant handle it Elka, sorry. It's that tartan-shortbread-Brigadoon mystical Scotland thing that I find really patronizing whenever we get it on TV. Wow, sorry David. As someone who was only in Scotland once when I was 13, I had the feeling that, take out the time travel aspect, and it seemed very grounded. Us Americans learn NOTHING about Scottish history, the Jacobites, and the basic relationship between Scotland and England through the last few centuries. Most Americans have never heard of the Battle of Culloden. The highlights on the clan system and that history is really appealing to me. Plus, every woman who reads that book falls head over heels for Jamie Fraser.
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Post by kimalysong on Jan 2, 2016 14:36:36 GMT
I cant handle it Elka, sorry. It's that tartan-shortbread-Brigadoon mystical Scotland thing that I find really patronizing whenever we get it on TV. Wow, sorry David. As someone who was only in Scotland once when I was 13, I had the feeling that, take out the time travel aspect, and it seemed very grounded. Us Americans learn NOTHING about Scottish history, the Jacobites, and the basic relationship between Scotland and England through the last few centuries. Most Americans have never heard of the Battle of Culloden. The highlights on the clan system and that history is really appealing to me. Plus, every woman who reads that book falls head over heels for Jamie Fraser. I am actually not attracted to Jamie Fraser at all. Not my type I guess XD But what I do like about the story is it gives the female main character agency in the romance (she's not just a damsel in distress) and I do like the historical aspects of the story. What I didn't like is the story got very rapey. I am okay with rape being used at times in fiction but it got a bit much here. And I didn't like the infamous spanking scene.
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Post by elkawho on Jan 2, 2016 14:43:18 GMT
Wow, sorry David. As someone who was only in Scotland once when I was 13, I had the feeling that, take out the time travel aspect, and it seemed very grounded. Us Americans learn NOTHING about Scottish history, the Jacobites, and the basic relationship between Scotland and England through the last few centuries. Most Americans have never heard of the Battle of Culloden. The highlights on the clan system and that history is really appealing to me. Plus, every woman who reads that book falls head over heels for Jamie Fraser. I am actually not attracted to Jamie Fraser at all. Not my type I guess XD But what I do like about the story is it gives the female main character agency in the romance (she's not just a damsel in distress) and I do like the historical aspects of the story. What I didn't like is the story got very rapey. I am okay with rape being used at times in fiction but it got a bit much here. And I didn't like the infamous spanking scene. Yeah, it does get that way. {Spoiler} Which reaches it's peak with Jamie in prison. I was wondering how much they were going to show on TV. Ever since Game Of Thrones it seems like every cable show has to show sexual violence (or any violence) in all it's disturbing detail.
For what it was in the book, I think they did a very good job dealing with those issues on TV.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 14:46:18 GMT
I cant handle it Elka, sorry. It's that tartan-shortbread-Brigadoon mystical Scotland thing that I find really patronizing whenever we get it on TV. I have mixed feelings on it myself but for different reasons than you. But I watched the first season and read the first two books because of its connection with Jamie/Frazer Hines. I guess you can say Jamie is kind of a Scottish stereotype too right? 100%, but Jamie's character comes from an interesting place - the BBC made a series called Culloden in 1964 and it was groundbreaking. It was a docu-drama before there was such a thing. It presented the battle as a news piece almost. It resurrected interest in the era and all of a sudden the romantic Jacobite was in-vogue again so Jamie was almost inevitable at that point. So while, yes, Jamie was a stereotype he was also taken from contemporary tv just as much as he was from history - or more likely Walter Scott's romantic notions of a highlander. If you really want the cat amongst the pigeons, Jamie would never have been fighting as a Jacobite - he would have been fighting against them along with the English as the McCrimmons (who were indeed master pipers) were part of the MacLeod clan who supported the Hannoverians against Charles Stuart/Bonnie Prince Charlie. So Jamie should have been a "bad guy" in The Highlanders
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 14:51:09 GMT
I cant handle it Elka, sorry. It's that tartan-shortbread-Brigadoon mystical Scotland thing that I find really patronizing whenever we get it on TV. Wow, sorry David. As someone who was only in Scotland once when I was 13, I had the feeling that, take out the time travel aspect, and it seemed very grounded. Us Americans learn NOTHING about Scottish history, the Jacobites, and the basic relationship between Scotland and England through the last few centuries. Most Americans have never heard of the Battle of Culloden. The highlights on the clan system and that history is really appealing to me. Plus, every woman who reads that book falls head over heels for Jamie Fraser. Don't worry, it's not an offensive stereotype or anything...I guess what would be comparable is any American frontier movie or show depicting the ridiculously noble John Wayne types fighting the savage and evil Indians. It's more of an eyeroll thing
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Post by kimalysong on Jan 2, 2016 14:55:03 GMT
So Jamie should have been a "bad guy" in The Highlanders Thanks for that interesting history tidbit but yeah I guess making Jamie on the side of the English would have defeated the purpose of his character (they could have given him a different last name) Speaking of Outlander I had dinner with Annette Badland at a convention this fall and she was so lovely so I wanted to get her autograph but between the Slitheen and Mrs Fitzgibbons I chose the latter since not the hugest fan of the Slitheen (Of course I couldn't tell her that) . She told me they asked her to be in the next season of Outlander (even though her character is no longer in the books) but she had a conflict with Eastenders.
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