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Post by nucleusofswarm on Dec 4, 2016 18:10:03 GMT
So yes, here you go. Whether he becomes the Valeyard, another War Doctor, an Unbound Doctor or whatever, feel free to sound off.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Dec 4, 2016 18:20:16 GMT
I think Chris Chibnall will bring him back for series 11.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 4, 2016 18:39:11 GMT
In my personal head canon, the Metacrisis Doctor turned out not to be the 'Doctor' that Rose knew and loved. I believe he got frustrated with being trapped in one place in one time period in one universe and this frustration sent the Metacrisis Doctor down a dark path. He let out his frustrations on Rose (he partly blames her for being trapped in Pete's World as well as the real Doctor), domestically abusing her behind closed doors until Rose called an end to their relationship. Feeling bitterness and resentment towards the real Doctor, the Metacrisis Doctor dropped the 'Doctor' title and started calling himself by the name 'Valeyard'. He worked for months on finding a way to our universe and eventually he succeeded - during a point where he was starting to look like Michael Jayston. The Valeyard escaped and the events of Trial of a Time Lord follow.
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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 4, 2016 21:43:04 GMT
I always assummed that the Meta-crisis Doctor and Rose lived happilly ever after, and defended the Earth in Pete's World from alien invaders.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 4, 2016 21:47:51 GMT
I always assummed that the Meta-crisis Doctor and Rose lived happilly ever after, and defended the Earth in Pete's World from alien invaders. There is no happily ever after when you're a half Time Lord, half human clone grown from the hand of a full-blooded Time Lord.
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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 4, 2016 22:10:00 GMT
I always assummed that the Meta-crisis Doctor and Rose lived happilly ever after, and defended the Earth in Pete's World from alien invaders. There is no happily ever after when you're a half Time Lord, half human clone grown from the hand of a full-blooded Time Lord. Why not?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 4, 2016 22:13:10 GMT
There is no happily ever after when you're a half Time Lord, half human clone grown from the hand of a full-blooded Time Lord. Why not? Because you would always be the shadow of the person you appear to be.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Dec 4, 2016 22:13:14 GMT
There is no happily ever after when you're a half Time Lord, half human clone grown from the hand of a full-blooded Time Lord. Why not? The meta is NOT Timelord.
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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 4, 2016 22:19:44 GMT
Because you would always be the shadow of the person you appear to be. All he has to do is learn to accept himself for who he is. And he gets to do a lot of things that the real Doctor can never do. The real Doctor can never settle down in one place and time, or grow old with the woman he lives. The real Doctor can never have a "happily ever after" but the metacrisis one potentially can.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 4, 2016 22:20:26 GMT
Because you would always be the shadow of the person you appear to be. All he has to do is learn to accept himself for who he is. And he gets to do a lot of things that the real Doctor can never do. The real Doctor can never settle down in one place and time, or grow old with the woman he lives. The real Doctor can never have a "happily ever after" but the metacrisis one potentially can. But the real Doctor doesn't want to do that.
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Post by Shiny on Dec 4, 2016 22:22:26 GMT
I always thought of the metacrisis Doctor as being a version of the Doctor who can live the kind of life that the proper Doctor never could. A regular, day-to-day life just like the rest of the universe. To be a human and to grow old with someone. That's why I'm so glad they deleted that scene about the metacrisis Doctor getting his own TARDIS.
I still think Rose's ending from Doomsday would be better off left alone. I'm fine with her cameo in the End of Time and the Moment taking her form in the Day of the Doctor but I never liked it that she was brought back in series 4. But that's getting away from the topic.
There's no way we'll see the metacrisis Doctor again. First of all, most fans would have forgotten he exists by now. He appeared in one episode eight years ago. Secondly, why would they bring back David Tennant and only have him "sort of" play the Doctor? If they manage to get Tennant back, it'll be as THE Doctor. The definite article.
The theory of him being the Valeyard is an interesting one and a good talking point for fans. It's fun to speculate about. Just don't expect it to ever be confirmed (or denied, for that matter) on screen.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Dec 4, 2016 22:32:49 GMT
I always thought of the metacrisis Doctor as being a version of the Doctor who can live the kind of life that the proper Doctor never could. A regular, day-to-day life just like the rest of the universe. To be a human and to grow old with someone. That's why I'm so glad they deleted that scene about the metacrisis Doctor getting his own TARDIS. I still think Rose's ending from Doomsday would be better off left alone. I'm fine with her cameo in the End of Time and the Moment taking her form in the Day of the Doctor but I never liked it that she was brought back in series 4. But that's getting away from the topic. There's no way we'll see the metacrisis Doctor again. First of all, most fans would have forgotten he exists by now. He appeared in one episode eight years ago. Secondly, why would they bring back David Tennant and only have him "sort of" play the Doctor? If they manage to get Tennant back, it'll be as THE Doctor. The definite article. The theory of him being the Valeyard is an interesting one and a good talking point for fans. It's fun to speculate about. Just don't expect it to ever be confirmed (or denied, for that matter) on screen. Tennant might like to play a baddie in DW.
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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 4, 2016 23:04:07 GMT
I always thought of the metacrisis Doctor as being a version of the Doctor who can live the kind of life that the proper Doctor never could. A regular, day-to-day life just like the rest of the universe. To be a human and to grow old with someone. That's why I'm so glad they deleted that scene about the metacrisis Doctor getting his own TARDIS. I still think Rose's ending from Doomsday would be better off left alone. I'm fine with her cameo in the End of Time and the Moment taking her form in the Day of the Doctor but I never liked it that she was brought back in series 4. But that's getting away from the topic. There's no way we'll see the metacrisis Doctor again. First of all, most fans would have forgotten he exists by now. He appeared in one episode eight years ago. Secondly, why would they bring back David Tennant and only have him "sort of" play the Doctor? If they manage to get Tennant back, it'll be as THE Doctor. The definite article. The theory of him being the Valeyard is an interesting one and a good talking point for fans. It's fun to speculate about. Just don't expect it to ever be confirmed (or denied, for that matter) on screen. Tennant might like to play a baddie in DW. Wasn't he a Nazi in Colditz?
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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 4, 2016 23:06:03 GMT
All he has to do is learn to accept himself for who he is. And he gets to do a lot of things that the real Doctor can never do. The real Doctor can never settle down in one place and time, or grow old with the woman he lives. The real Doctor can never have a "happily ever after" but the metacrisis one potentially can. But the real Doctor doesn't want to do that. I think a part of him does. Obviously that part of him isn't as big as the part of him that wants to travel through time and space, but I think a part of him has always wanted to live a normal life.
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Post by Ela on Dec 4, 2016 23:09:14 GMT
Tennant might like to play a baddie in DW. Wasn't he a Nazi in Colditz? Yup. But that was before he was the Doctor.
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Post by paulmorris7777 on Dec 4, 2016 23:44:42 GMT
Tennant might like to play a baddie in DW. Wasn't he a Nazi in Colditz? Hes played several baddies on tv.
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Post by agentten on Dec 5, 2016 0:41:46 GMT
I'm in the happily-ever-after camp with the Metacrisis Doctor. In my mind, he and Rose are up to their ears in all kinds of adventures on their parallel Earth.
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Post by shutupbanks on Dec 5, 2016 2:20:12 GMT
Yeah, I'm voting for the "happily ever after" as well: don't forget that the tech in Pete's World (as it is known) is pretty advanced so that shouldn't preclude too many adventures in space (and maybe time, depending on how you view the deleted scene that involved 10 chucking him a piece of TARDIS coral)
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Post by relativetime on Dec 5, 2016 2:20:45 GMT
I'm sort of in-between on whether he has a happy ending or not. I used to lean more toward a "bad ending," where he turns out to be the Valeyard, but recently I've found the idea of a more happy ending more appealing (but without any Ten/Rose shipping, since I really don't care for Rose quite frankly).
I think the Metacrisis Doctor would really try to live an ordinary life, but the absence of the TARDIS would begin to eat away at him, sort of like we saw with the Third Doctor. He'd become desperate to leave the planet and resume his travels, and I think there might be problems between himself and Rose related to his inability to be, well, "the Doctor."
I just can't see a relationship between the Metacrisis and Rose TRULY working out, honestly - at least, not for quite a long time. Rose, to me, was more enamored with the idea of the Doctor AND time travel, rather than just the Doctor as a person. And, on top of that, this "human" Doctor isn't really the Doctor - he's a bit of a mashup between the Doctor and Donna. There'd be personality differences that would separate the metacrisis from the Doctor Rose travelled with. So, I really see them returning to a more platonic relationship rather than anything intimate.
In the long run, I'd like to think the Metacrisis eventually regains the ability to time travel again - perhaps the Time Lords of Pete's Universe show up? - and things return more or less continue like the main universe. Or maybe he's eventually driven to villainy after feeling trapped for so long on Earth. Either way, I just don't see the Metacrisis Doctor adapting to or even accepting his humanity quite so easily.
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Post by constonks on Dec 5, 2016 4:56:01 GMT
I lean towards the "normal human life" side, where they might very well have a TARDIS but nothing supernatural will come between them. One of them might just die sooner than the other. Who knows how long a metacrisis body will sustain itself?
I'm kind of curious where the Real Doctor is in Pete's World, though. Although maybe the Real Doctor was someone like Arabella Weir or David Collings...
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