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Post by Ela on Dec 20, 2016 19:08:09 GMT
You may be underestimating how it feels to be a member of a minority religion and having symbols of Xmas everywhere for months prior to the holiday, while being given a hard time about taking time off for one's own religious holidays. Perhaps, but I was born and raised a member of a minority religion too but yet know I can't supplant my cultural values onto another country in another continent. Doctor Who having Christmas specials is because of it's place in British culture where, as I say above, few people are practicing Christians. Christmas is less a religious event in 2016 and more a cultural one - at least in the UK. I don't pretend to speak to the experiences of anyone from another country but would hope you recognise that you can't do the same. The issues you face as Americans who aren't Christians are not always going to be relevant to the culture of a TV show made in Wales starring and produced by Scotsmen and paid for by largely English folk. As for taking time off for your own religious holidays - again, it's not something that's ever been a big issue here where we have 28 paid days holiday a year guaranteed by law. Once more - cultural differences. We're discussing a British show that is shown at a time of year that reflects the fact that's when British shows have "specials". We don't have Thanksgiving episodes, we don't have Halloween specials, we don't have Easter episodes - if you're getting a special for your UK show, it's going to be a Christmas one. Doctor Who having Christmas specials is only reflecting that. Are the 28 paid days holiday specific days or days that can be taken when one wants? Just curious. Some employers give paid days off here, some give a certain number of "personal leave" or "vacation" days. Depends on the job and number of hours off. Some people get no paid leave at all. In many jobs, Christians can get their major Christian holidays off (Xmas, Easter are specifically Christian, Thanksgiving and New Years Day are not specifically Christian) without using the personal time allotted to them, because the aforementioned days are legal holidays here. People of other religions may end up using all their personal leave time just to take their religious holidays off, leaving them with no actual "vacation" time. (I do know that many other countries have much better provision for leave from work then the US does.)
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Post by Ela on Dec 20, 2016 19:11:32 GMT
You may be underestimating how it feels to be a member of a minority religion and having symbols of Xmas everywhere for months prior to the holiday, while being given a hard time about taking time off for one's own religious holidays. not really......tolerance of others beliefs is respected despite what the press try to make out. But why should one religious symbol be offensive to another. Surely we have risen above that for all but the most extreme individuals. as to taking holidays i am afraid that's just a problem with modern life, majority rules. In the UK we are hard pressed to keep even Christmas day a holiday, there is always someone wanting to open a supermarket on the off chance someone cannot manage for 24 hours without buying something. our local church does not have a service on Christmas day anymore! they have a day off! and have a Christmas eve blessings & a boxing day thanks. but Christmas in the UK its more akin to your thanksgiving than a religious celebration. i have Muslim, Sikh, Jewish, atheist and christian friends we all celebrate in the same way, cards to your friends, presents to the ones you care most about, turkey dinner with family and friends and a few days off mostly watching TV & eating too much. maybe not how it should be but that's what it has become. It may depend on how assimilated your Muslim, Sikh, Jewish, etc. friends are. I know for a fact that religious tolerance is not universal in the UK or anywhere else, really.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 20, 2016 19:15:59 GMT
You may be underestimating how it feels to be a member of a minority religion and having symbols of Xmas everywhere for months prior to the holiday, while being given a hard time about taking time off for one's own religious holidays. In the UK we are hard pressed to keep even Christmas day a holiday, there is always someone wanting to open a supermarket on the off chance someone cannot manage for 24 hours without buying something. If a supermarket is ever open anywhere on Christmas Day, then I think I'll move to Mars.
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Post by omega on Dec 20, 2016 19:35:37 GMT
In the UK we are hard pressed to keep even Christmas day a holiday, there is always someone wanting to open a supermarket on the off chance someone cannot manage for 24 hours without buying something. If a supermarket is ever open anywhere on Christmas Day, then I think I'll move to Mars. Avoid Bowie Base 1, there's something in the water.
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Post by Ela on Dec 20, 2016 19:52:22 GMT
In the UK we are hard pressed to keep even Christmas day a holiday, there is always someone wanting to open a supermarket on the off chance someone cannot manage for 24 hours without buying something. If a supermarket is ever open anywhere on Christmas Day, then I think I'll move to Mars. Better start packing your bags.
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Post by icecreamdf on Dec 20, 2016 21:15:04 GMT
In the UK we are hard pressed to keep even Christmas day a holiday, there is always someone wanting to open a supermarket on the off chance someone cannot manage for 24 hours without buying something. If a supermarket is ever open anywhere on Christmas Day, then I think I'll move to Mars. Joke's on you. They don't even celebrate Christmas on Mars.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Dec 20, 2016 21:32:09 GMT
If a supermarket is ever open anywhere on Christmas Day, then I think I'll move to Mars. Avoid Bowie Base 1, there's something in the water. Thanks for the advice. I heard rumours the drinking water wasn't so good.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Dec 21, 2016 13:12:54 GMT
Avoid Bowie Base 1, there's something in the water. Thanks for the advice. I heard rumours the drinking water wasn't so good. Well its safer than the drinking water in Newcastle (If Geordie Shore is anything to go by )
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