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Post by whiskeybrewer on Apr 3, 2019 11:21:49 GMT
The most important thing I learned on Tralfamadore was that when a person dies he only appears to die. He is still very much alive in the past, so it is very silly for people to cry at his funeral. All moments, past, present and future, always have existed, always will exist. The Tralfamadorians can look at all the different moments just that way we can look at a stretch of the Rocky Mountains, for instance. They can see how permanent all the moments are, and they can look at any moment that interests them. It is just an illusion we have here on Earth that one moment follows another one, like beads on a string, and that once a moment is gone it is gone forever. Slaughterhouse-Five, Kurt Vonnegut I quote i shall think of come friday
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 1:14:25 GMT
The most important thing I learned on Tralfamadore was that when a person dies he only appears to die. He is still very much alive in the past, so it is very silly for people to cry at his funeral. All moments, past, present and future, always have existed, always will exist. The Tralfamadorians can look at all the different moments just that way we can look at a stretch of the Rocky Mountains, for instance. They can see how permanent all the moments are, and they can look at any moment that interests them. It is just an illusion we have here on Earth that one moment follows another one, like beads on a string, and that once a moment is gone it is gone forever. Slaughterhouse-Five, Kurt Vonnegut I quote i shall think of come friday Hope it all goes well, old chap.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Apr 4, 2019 13:49:32 GMT
I quote i shall think of come friday Hope it all goes well, old chap. Thanks dude
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 1:22:30 GMT
I recently rediscovered Martin Niemöller and this hauntingly immortal piece of poetry:
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Post by tuigirl on Apr 7, 2019 2:06:00 GMT
I recently rediscovered Martin Niemöller and this hauntingly immortal piece of poetry: The scary bit about this is that it can sadly happen again. And I fear I can see it starting. This is also one of my favorite quotes. And I try to heed the advice and will not be silent- however I fear I might one day end up with my teeth smashed in.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 2:47:53 GMT
I recently rediscovered Martin Niemöller and this hauntingly immortal piece of poetry: The scary bit about this is that it can sadly happen again. And I fear I can see it starting. This is also one of my favorite quotes. And I try to heed the advice and will not be silent- however I fear I might one day end up with my teeth smashed in. Same. The Doomsday Clock is the closest it's been to Armageddon since 1953 (two minutes to midnight), but I like to look at it this way... Just a decade after 1953, the increase in cooperation and understanding was such that we gained another five minutes. It escalated again (1984 was not a good year), but in the end, the Wall came down and -- in 1991 -- we were seventeen minutes from midnight. A far cry from two. Speaking out does pay off. We're due for a reprieve soon and if someone does come along to smash our teeth in, well... No one is truly alone. Someone else had to be listening too; hopefully, they'll carry on speaking up.
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Post by Digi on Apr 7, 2019 3:10:46 GMT
I like to collect quotes that I find striking, too. With no particular thought given to a theme here:
"It is a moral failure to accept injustice as the inescapable tragedy of our fallen nature." - John McCain
"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien in The Fellowship of the Ring
"There is only one reason to be passionate about a lack of faith -- and that is fear. Fear that you are wrong. An innate need for others to share your opinion, so that you can be less afraid." - James Islington in An Echo of Things to Come
And one I was daft and didn't remember to write down who said it:
"If a builder and an architect sit at the same table, does one role become more like the other? Or do they work better together because of it? We are all servants, just with different roles."
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Post by Digi on Jun 2, 2019 15:53:00 GMT
"You are not a drop in the ocean. You are the entire ocean in a drop." - Jalal ad-Din Rumi
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Post by barnabaslives on Jun 14, 2019 3:26:10 GMT
I have long been very taken with these words, if only because of my rather outdated tastes.
"I have a good friend in the East, who comes to my shows and says, you sing a lot about the past, you can't live in the past, you know. I say to him, I can go outside and pick up a rock that's older than the oldest song you know, and bring it back in here and drop it on your foot. Now the past didn't go anywhere, did it? It's right here, right now.
I always thought that anybody who told me I couldn't live in the past was trying to get me to forget something that if I remembered it it would get them serious trouble. No, that 50s, 60s, 70s, 90s stuff, that whole idea of decade packaging, things don't happen that way. The Vietnam War heated up in 1965 and ended in 1975-- what's that got to do with decades? No, that packaging of time is a journalist convenience that they use to trivialize and to dismiss important events and important ideas. I defy that." - Utah Phillips
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You know, now that you mention it, I actually do rather like Attack of the Cybermen ...
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Post by lidar2 on Jun 15, 2019 13:22:05 GMT
I liked what one of the Tory leaderhip candidates supporters said after the first ballot, that their candidate came "a strong 5th".
That's the kind of ridiculously oxymoronic quote we remember for the wrong reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 9:13:06 GMT
Rewatching The Dark Crystal and I'd quietly forgotten it has one of the best non-explanation explanations in film: And watching it, you go: "Oh, yes, of course," completely unironically. Now, that's good storytelling.
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Post by mrperson on Jun 18, 2019 22:30:22 GMT
One of my all-time favorite books (and authors). I never read any Steinbeck beyond the educationally mandated Grapes of Wrath and Mice and Men until I was well into adulthood. My wife had a colleague and later friend named Timshel and she led us along a circuitous path that concluded with East of Eden. The way I remember East of Eden is as humanity in a nutshell. It had a lot to say, and it said it without saying it but by showing it.
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Post by Digi on Jul 17, 2019 0:20:28 GMT
Couple of others I've come across lately that I liked:
"The inventor of the mirror poisoned the human heart." - Fernando Pessoa
"There are all these moments you don't think you will survive. And then you survive." - David Levithan
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 7:49:30 GMT
An oldie, but a goodie.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jul 18, 2019 13:13:35 GMT
One of my favourite Andromeda episodes. Laura Bertram really shines here
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Post by theotherjosh on Jul 18, 2019 22:48:25 GMT
There will come soft rains and the smell of the ground, And swallows calling with their shimmering sound;
And frogs in the pools singing at night, And wild plum-trees in tremulous white;
Robins will wear their feathery fire Whistling their whims on a low fence-wire;
And not one will know of the war, not one Will care at last when it is done.
Not one would mind, neither bird nor tree If mankind perished utterly;
And Spring herself, when she woke at dawn, Would scarcely know that we were gone.
"There Will Come Soft Rains", Sara Teasdale
It also inspired the Ray Bradbury short story of the same name.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 2:21:04 GMT
One of my favourite Andromeda episodes. Laura Bertram really shines here It's so much fun. " Run for your lives, but let me go first!" She nails that nice balance between the innocent she's supposed to be playing and the more world-weary Trance beneath. Andromeda was very good at that. The optimists had ideals, but they weren't wide-eyed about it. Any naivety was often an act. There will come soft rains and the smell of the ground, And swallows calling with their shimmering sound;
And frogs in the pools singing at night, And wild plum-trees in tremulous white;
Robins will wear their feathery fire Whistling their whims on a low fence-wire;
And not one will know of the war, not one Will care at last when it is done.
Not one would mind, neither bird nor tree If mankind perished utterly;
And Spring herself, when she woke at dawn, Would scarcely know that we were gone."There Will Come Soft Rains", Sara Teasdale It also inspired the Ray Bradbury short story of the same name. One of my favourite Bradburys. Leonard Nimoy's done a reading of it, but there's a marvellous Uzbekfilm adaptation from 1987 that does magical things with it.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jul 19, 2019 12:35:11 GMT
One of my favourite Andromeda episodes. Laura Bertram really shines here It's so much fun. " Run for your lives, but let me go first!" She nails that nice balance between the innocent she's supposed to be playing and the more world-weary Trance beneath. Andromeda was very good at that. The optimists had ideals, but they weren't wide-eyed about it. Any naivety was often an act. Its also her acting out the story she'd tell Dylan and the look on their faces
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2019 9:36:13 GMT
It's so much fun. " Run for your lives, but let me go first!" She nails that nice balance between the innocent she's supposed to be playing and the more world-weary Trance beneath. Andromeda was very good at that. The optimists had ideals, but they weren't wide-eyed about it. Any naivety was often an act. Its also her acting out the story she'd tell Dylan and the look on their faces Ahhh, and it's all terribly plausible with Trance. Probably. That reminds me actually, if you've not seen The Orville yet, I recommend looking up an episode called "Blood of Patriots". In addition to a "Battle of Tarazed" mentioned in the episode, it also has a familiar character conflict I think you'll recognise.
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Jul 20, 2019 12:58:18 GMT
Its also her acting out the story she'd tell Dylan and the look on their faces Ahhh, and it's all terribly plausible with Trance. Probably. That reminds me actually, if you've not seen The Orville yet, I recommend looking up an episode called "Blood of Patriots". In addition to a "Battle of Tarazed" mentioned in the episode, it also has a familiar character conflict I think you'll recognise. I've seen it yeah and i spotted that too
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