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Post by bobod on Jan 14, 2017 11:51:20 GMT
This may interest some jacrayner.com/news/benny-republished/But perhaps not my mate who recently found a forgotten spare copy of each of The Dead Men Diaries and the first five BF Benny books.
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Post by eldersensorite on Jan 14, 2017 18:18:21 GMT
I got very excited for a moment until I realised it was as ebooks. I'm glad that some people will be able to read them but I don't do ebooks.
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Post by bohnny on Jan 15, 2017 0:59:26 GMT
Excellent. Just life of surprises to go for me now.
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Post by Ela on Jan 15, 2017 1:20:13 GMT
I'll take an ebook version. Though I did manage to recently snag a copy of The Squire's Crystal for a fairly reasonable price.
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Post by OneTen on Jan 16, 2017 12:34:04 GMT
I think these are two books that I will have to get, given how much the narrative gaps annoy me! Well done Jac Rayner and BF for making this happen.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 16:21:18 GMT
Everybody needs to buy them now to persuade the other authors that it's worth doing.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Jan 16, 2017 16:41:31 GMT
Everybody needs to buy them now to persuade the other authors that it's worth doing. As soon as BF puts them up for sale I'm sure those of us who are missing the book will be doing just that.
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Post by Ela on Jan 17, 2017 1:49:51 GMT
Everybody needs to buy them now to persuade the other authors that it's worth doing. As soon as BF puts them up for sale I'm sure those of us who are missing the book will be doing just that. I'll get them.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jan 17, 2017 3:07:54 GMT
To this day I do not understand the reasoning behind cross media stories where you NEED to have both to get the narrative, beyond trying to get people to buy both. I've never seen it work outside of comics, and even then you need to be dedicated. If it weren't for the sadly lower sales for Benny compared to the Doctors I'd have been pursuing/advocating adaptations of those books to appear as interstitial titles in the Benny series, even as DL only.
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Post by Ela on Jan 17, 2017 4:12:29 GMT
To this day I do not understand the reasoning behind cross media stories where you NEED to have both to get the narrative, beyond trying to get people to buy both. I've never seen it work outside of comics, and even then you need to be dedicated. If it weren't for the sadly lower sales for Benny compared to the Doctors I'd have been pursuing/advocating adaptations of those books to appear as interstitial titles in the Benny series, even as DL only. I would argue that you don't need to get the books to understand the audio stories. I've listened to every Benny audio story and felt I understood what was going on well enough. I've yet to read every Benny book. No doubt, the books would add some context and background, but I didn't feel I was missing out cause I hadn't read the books yet at the time I listened to the audio stories.
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Post by OneTen on Jan 17, 2017 11:08:09 GMT
I didn't feel I was missing out cause I hadn't read the books yet at the time I listened to the audio stories. I did. Maybe I wasn't missing out, it's hard for me to tell because I haven't read the books. But that's the feeling I was left with. Gave up on the Benny audios twice in the early days because of it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 12:09:56 GMT
I didn't feel I was missing out cause I hadn't read the books yet at the time I listened to the audio stories. I did. Maybe I wasn't missing out, it's hard for me to tell because I haven't read the books. But that's the feeling I was left with. Gave up on the Benny audios twice in the early days because of it. Yeah, the gap covered by one of these books was particularly jarring and there were a couple of points in the series where I found myself completely baffled because things had changed since the last CD.
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Post by coffeeaddict on Jan 17, 2017 12:26:42 GMT
I did. Maybe I wasn't missing out, it's hard for me to tell because I haven't read the books. But that's the feeling I was left with. Gave up on the Benny audios twice in the early days because of it. Yeah, the gap covered by one of these books was particularly jarring and there were a couple of points in the series where I found myself completely baffled because things had changed since the last CD. I admit I was thrown for a few seconds when all of a sudden she had a kid - but I've read sci-fi with far stranger things happening with even less explanation so I just shrugged and kept listening figuring some of the background would be filled in later. I don't think the books are 100% necessary for listening to the audios, but they are enjoyable reads and worth getting for that reason alone.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 13:17:44 GMT
To this day I do not understand the reasoning behind cross media stories where you NEED to have both to get the narrative, beyond trying to get people to buy both. I suppose that was the main purpose, getting people to buy both. At the time I used to buy the Big Finish Bernice Summerfield audios and books as they came out, so everything worked in order. The audio/novel crossover did seem like a good idea at the time then. Obviously as time moved on and Big Finish got bigger, the BF Bernice Summerfield novels went out of print while the CDs didn't, it got very confusing for new fans who came on board and found out that two main plot points from the Benny narrative were missing! It then became a bad idea in hindsight. I'm glad the eBooks are being released to enable people to catch up, but it probably should have been done a bit sooner.
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Post by Ela on Jan 17, 2017 14:46:43 GMT
Maybe I was helped by the fact that I had read some of her background online and in discussions at the old BF forum.
I don't know.
But I was able to follow just fine.
Now I'm reading all the Benny books and will go back and re-listen to the audio stories.
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Post by laughingdevil on Jan 21, 2017 3:12:45 GMT
This is good news, a real no-brainer. The other authors should take the hint. They can go from earning nothing to earning something. Moreover, they owe a moral obligation to the character and the franchise to let the work live on.
And let's be honest, anyone who really wants to read the material can get it all for free from that store in the sky. No stopping that, so might as well at least make a little coin.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jan 21, 2017 19:03:12 GMT
This is good news, a real no-brainer. The other authors should take the hint. They can go from earning nothing to earning something. Moreover, they owe a moral obligation to the character and the franchise to let the work live on. And let's be honest, anyone who really wants to read the material can get it all for free from that store in the sky. No stopping that, so might as well at least make a little coin. 1. They SHOULD go from earning nothing to earning something. 2. No, they don't owe a moral obligation to the character and the franchise...for anything.
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Post by muckypup on Jan 21, 2017 19:32:23 GMT
I didn't feel I was missing out cause I hadn't read the books yet at the time I listened to the audio stories. I did. Maybe I wasn't missing out, it's hard for me to tell because I haven't read the books. But that's the feeling I was left with. Gave up on the Benny audios twice in the early days because of it. Same here I wasn't till series 6 or 7 that I didn't feel I was missing something i know they Gary r has said they made sure that each stood on its own but I am afraid for me it often felt like you had missed something.
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Post by charlesuirdhein on Jan 21, 2017 23:06:55 GMT
I did. Maybe I wasn't missing out, it's hard for me to tell because I haven't read the books. But that's the feeling I was left with. Gave up on the Benny audios twice in the early days because of it. Same here I wasn't till series 6 or 7 that I didn't feel I was missing something i know they Gary r has said they made sure that each stood on its own but I am afraid for me it often felt like you had missed something. I'm sure they MEANT to have them work as pure standalones (maybe) but it's easier to say that when you already know the storyline. It's like having to distance yourself from your own work before doing a self edit, for a while you literally can't see the mistakes because your head fills in the gaps.
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Post by laughingdevil on Jan 22, 2017 7:24:39 GMT
Yes. They knew they were creating something for an established franchise and a loyal fanbase. In a country with slightly more sane copyright laws, this would be work for hire and an entirely new generation could be enjoying the work.
However, UK laws seem to allow authors to be prissy little brats over the subject. It's a real shame, as the works are bigger than they are.
Put it this way - isn't it better that we can have commercially available copies of the eps than not. Would it be a good thing if there were holes in the collection because the screenwriter decided they didn't like how the episodes turned out?
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