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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 14, 2017 23:57:02 GMT
...what will probably happen.
What I'd like to happen: Missy becomes the President of Gallifrey and tells the Daleks of Gallifrey's location, seeing the start of a potential Second Time War. The 12th Doctor teams up with a mysterious woman (who we know to be the next Doctor but the Doctor assumes is another River Song situation) to stop the situation escalating into a full-blown war and banish the Daleks from Gallifrey's pocket universe for good.
What will probably happen: The Doctor fixes the New York time distortion he was trying to solve in The Return of Doctor Mysterio and has one last adventure with Amy and Rory, trying to stop Missy and her new army of Daleks from unleashing their latest plan on 1930s New York.
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Post by jasonward on Feb 15, 2017 4:10:11 GMT
What should happen is:
The Doctor experimenting with temporal physics and black holes resets the entire universe to the moment where the 4th Doctor is weighing the moral dilemma of whether he should commit genocide against the Daleks, 12 appears in front of 4, and explains it's no big deal any longer as genocide is part of The Doctors armoury these days and breaking the laws of time is something he does for breakfast. 4 looks agog and stunned at 12, 12 lunges at 4 making the bomb explode killing the Daleks once and for all (again), 12 then vanishes in a puff of logic and 4 hurt from the blast returns to his Tardis where he falls onto the floor and regenerates into Doctor 5/13/14 (or whatever number you choose) and the new series picks up from there.
What will happen is:
The Doctor experimenting with temporal physics and black holes resets the entire universe to the moment where Riversong is about to die, he rescues her, leaving a personality imprint in the space suit and takes her to see Hitler where she learns that she is infact Hitler and has been plotting to overthrow the Timelords by giving The Daleks Timelord secrets, The Doctor realising he has no clue what is going on, kisses River only to find she shoots him, he staggers backwards into the Tardis and regenerates and whilst incredibly dramatic and full of cool special effects, leaves many questions unanswered.
I'm feeling cynical today, can you tell?
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 15, 2017 4:39:31 GMT
Amy and Rory aren't going to come back, because they aren't Twelfth Doctor companions. I wouldn't be surprised if Clara makes some kind of appearance though. I want to see both Missy and Rassilon return for the regeneration. Apart from that, I trust that Moffat has better ideas than anything I can think of.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Feb 15, 2017 9:03:05 GMT
The Doctor has a run in with a future Dalek, something teched up from the usual bronzleks. The shock is the future Dalek is one of many ... one of the Lords of Time. The Daleks stepped up into the gap the Time Lords left and are doing a good job. They're brutal but they're good at it. They have a Predator Rule, they leave him alone and clean up after him but they don't interact - except for now because as far as their records show he died and regenerated a week ago. He's now an anolomy, and everything he does is anolomous. The Futureleks have a simple rule for anolomies - exterminate.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 15, 2017 9:10:37 GMT
Amy and Rory aren't going to come back, because they aren't Twelfth Doctor companions. I wouldn't be surprised if Clara makes some kind of appearance though. I want to see both Missy and Rassilon return for the regeneration. Apart from that, I trust that Moffat has better ideas than anything I can think of. The main reason why I think Amy and Rory will come back is that the Doctor fixing the time distortion in The Return of Doctor Mysterio seemed like foreshadowing of something that may come later. Not 12th Doctor companions but they are the most popular Moffat era ones.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Feb 15, 2017 9:24:05 GMT
Amy and Rory aren't going to come back, because they aren't Twelfth Doctor companions. I wouldn't be surprised if Clara makes some kind of appearance though. I want to see both Missy and Rassilon return for the regeneration. Apart from that, I trust that Moffat has better ideas than anything I can think of. The main reason why I think Amy and Rory will come back is that the Doctor fixing the time distortion in The Return of Doctor Mysterio seemed like foreshadowing of something that may come later. Not 12th Doctor companions but they are the most popular Moffat era ones. One of whom is a movie actor now and the other one responsible for singing "let me go" as a departing message for Who fandom - and who is also acting on two TV series.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 15, 2017 9:58:18 GMT
The main reason why I think Amy and Rory will come back is that the Doctor fixing the time distortion in The Return of Doctor Mysterio seemed like foreshadowing of something that may come later. Not 12th Doctor companions but they are the most popular Moffat era ones. One of whom is a movie actor now and the other one responsible for singing "let me go" as a departing message for Who fandom - and who is also acting on two TV series. They'll do it for nostalgia.
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Post by Sir Wearer of Hats on Feb 15, 2017 9:59:57 GMT
One of whom is a movie actor now and the other one responsible for singing "let me go" as a departing message for Who fandom - and who is also acting on two TV series. They'll do it for nostalgia. Karen maybe, but Arthur? I think he's happy to leave the past in the past.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 15, 2017 10:31:05 GMT
One of whom is a movie actor now and the other one responsible for singing "let me go" as a departing message for Who fandom - and who is also acting on two TV series. They'll do it for nostalgia. No offense, but I think you're being too idealistic. What you'd do is not the same thing as people with bigger and more complicated careers would.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 15, 2017 10:35:49 GMT
In all likelyhood, the finale will be one of two things:
1) Rassilon's revenge (possibly regenerated) so big shock over who it'll be. 2) The Dalek-Missy team up, which could well mean not just an effort to start another Time War but, given Moffat's delving into regular nostalgia, he's going to do an adaptation of The Game, the unmade Barry Letts episode that would've seen off Delgado's Master.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 15, 2017 11:04:17 GMT
In all likelyhood, the finale will be one of two things: 1) Rassilon's revenge (possibly regenerated) so big shock over who it'll be.. Played by Robert Downey Jnr, perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 11:18:27 GMT
One of whom is a movie actor now and the other one responsible for singing "let me go" as a departing message for Who fandom - and who is also acting on two TV series. They'll do it for nostalgia. But are they whovians?
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 15, 2017 11:55:21 GMT
They'll do it for nostalgia. But are they whovians? I'm not sure.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 13:06:17 GMT
One of whom is a movie actor now and the other one responsible for singing "let me go" as a departing message for Who fandom - and who is also acting on two TV series. They'll do it for nostalgia. Not if other TV shows are paying them more money!
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 15, 2017 13:11:43 GMT
They'll do it for nostalgia. Not if other TV shows are paying them more money! The BBC will cough up for a regeneration episode, I'm sure.
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 15, 2017 14:04:06 GMT
Amy and Rory aren't going to come back, because they aren't Twelfth Doctor companions. I wouldn't be surprised if Clara makes some kind of appearance though. I want to see both Missy and Rassilon return for the regeneration. Apart from that, I trust that Moffat has better ideas than anything I can think of. The main reason why I think Amy and Rory will come back is that the Doctor fixing the time distortion in The Return of Doctor Mysterio seemed like foreshadowing of something that may come later. Not 12th Doctor companions but they are the most popular Moffat era ones. I think thatt that was just to give the Doctor a reason to be on Grant's roof.
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Post by sherlock on Feb 15, 2017 14:25:39 GMT
Not if other TV shows are paying them more money! The BBC will cough up for a regeneration episode, I'm sure. Based on their track record of funding the show, they won't
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 15:19:25 GMT
The BBC will cough up for a regeneration episode, I'm sure. Based on their track record of funding the show, they won't Based on the last few years of them being starved of funds, they probably can't.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 15, 2017 15:48:53 GMT
Gillian and Darvil are most likely never to be back.
At the end of season 5 they apparently said to SM "We're only doing 2 years" by the time they'd finished filming Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon SM had scripted the exit and said "here's a contract for a couple more episodes cause the BBC want's a split Series next year."
I also don't see them coming to BF in a hurry.
There seems to be a snobbery growing in younger actors who've "made it" towards Audio. If its not film or streamed somehow its not worth their time.
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Post by nucleusofswarm on Feb 15, 2017 16:12:19 GMT
Gillian and Darvil are most likely never to be back. At the end of season 5 they apparently said to SM "We're only doing 2 years" by the time they'd finished filming Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon SM had scripted the exit and said "here's a contract for a couple more episodes cause the BBC want's a split Series next year." I also don't see them coming to BF in a hurry. There seems to be a snobbery growing in younger actors who've "made it" towards Audio. If its not film or streamed somehow its not worth their time. Regards mark687 Listen to a podcast called The Movie Crypt, by filmmakers Adam Green and Joe Lynch. They interview all manner of people in film and TV, and it's crazy how finicky the environment is and how short of a window you have to cash in on a success before you're old news again, including actors.
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