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Post by mark687 on Feb 23, 2017 21:38:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 21:39:25 GMT
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Post by nottenst on Feb 23, 2017 21:41:47 GMT
And it hasn't even aired yet on BBCA in the US. I'd have thought they might want to wait for ratings there before making a decision. They should have insisted that BBCA air it concurrently.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 23, 2017 21:56:41 GMT
Worth noting that it's The Mirror saying this, not the BBC.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 23, 2017 22:01:13 GMT
Worth noting that it's The Mirror saying this, not the BBC. Worth noting the Mirror are right more often then not on inside information.
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Post by ollychops on Feb 23, 2017 22:54:48 GMT
I don't know. I'd rather wait for an official statement by Patrick Ness or the BBC, just because it seems weird to definitely cancel it before it airs in the US. You'd think they'd wait to see how it fares there before definitely cancelling it. Not that I think it'll do much better, but still, seems like a weird move.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 23, 2017 23:07:31 GMT
Worth noting that it's The Mirror saying this, not the BBC. Worth noting the Mirror are right more often then not on inside information.
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But they do sometimes get things wrong.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 23, 2017 23:17:49 GMT
Worth noting the Mirror are right more often then not on inside information.
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But they do sometimes get things wrong. Yes OK nobody's right 100% of the time.
But this instance they probably are IMO.
Except for the pilot less then 200000 people watched it every week, Why spend more money on something that less then 1% of the viewing or streaming audience watched.
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Post by melkur on Feb 23, 2017 23:55:19 GMT
To be honest, considering the time that they aired it (after ten o'clock on a Monday night until just after midnight Tuesday morning), I'm not exactly surprised...
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 24, 2017 0:27:17 GMT
But they do sometimes get things wrong. Yes OK nobody's right 100% of the time.
But this instance they probably are IMO.
Except for the pilot less then 200000 people watched it every week, Why spend more money on something that less then 1% of the viewing or streaming audience watched.
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They could see what kind of audience it gets if a second series were to air on BBC1 at 9pm rather than made available on BBC3 Online.
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Post by icecreamdf on Feb 24, 2017 3:53:46 GMT
Speaking of Ness, he wrote the screenplay for the pretty amazing A Monster Calls film, based on his own novel. Well worth anyone's time. When you've seen it - google the young Scottish actor Lewis MacDougall who has the lead role and try not to be amazed that he was able to star in a role so close to home never mind do it so wonderfully. I've been meaning to see that. I read the book for my children's literature class last year, and I really enjoyed it.
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Post by sherlock on Feb 24, 2017 10:24:08 GMT
Yes OK nobody's right 100% of the time.
But this instance they probably are IMO.
Except for the pilot less then 200000 people watched it every week, Why spend more money on something that less then 1% of the viewing or streaming audience watched.
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They could see what kind of audience it gets if a second series were to air on BBC1 at 9pm rather than made available on BBC3 Online. The whole point of the series was to be available on BBC 3, it's one of their first major BBC 3-only projects.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 24, 2017 11:22:27 GMT
They could see what kind of audience it gets if a second series were to air on BBC1 at 9pm rather than made available on BBC3 Online. The whole point of the series was to be available on BBC 3, it's one of their first major BBC 3-only projects. But it didn't work. It could have got more viewers on BBC1 9pm.
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Post by sherlock on Feb 24, 2017 11:46:52 GMT
The whole point of the series was to be available on BBC 3, it's one of their first major BBC 3-only projects. But it didn't work. It could have got more viewers on BBC1 9pm. Doesn't matter, it was always intended as a BBC 3 initiative and lives and dies on its sucess as one. If it had got decent viewing figures on BBC 3 maybe they would consider moving it to a bigger channel (ala Torchwood) but it didn't.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 24, 2017 12:13:47 GMT
But it didn't work. It could have got more viewers on BBC1 9pm. Doesn't matter, it was always intended as a BBC 3 initiative and lives and dies on its sucess as one. If it had got decent viewing figures on BBC 3 maybe they would consider moving it to a bigger channel (ala Torchwood) but it didn't. It was a mistake to make it for BBC3 though. It should have been a show for BBC1 to begin with.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 12:37:02 GMT
But it didn't work. It could have got more viewers on BBC1 9pm. Doesn't matter, it was always intended as a BBC 3 initiative and lives and dies on its sucess as one. If it had got decent viewing figures on BBC 3 maybe they would consider moving it to a bigger channel (ala Torchwood) but it didn't. Absolutely. Torchwood is the very model of how a show can grow organically with buzz, just the right marketing and a little luck. It went from BBC3 to BBC2 and then to primetime BBC1. A true success by any metric. When it launched, John Barrowman's profile - looking for all the world like James Bond with gun cocked and aimed - was on the side of buses and billboards up and down the country. And, of course, people knew who Captain Jack was. There wouldn't be the money to promote Class that heavily now Sarah Jane Adventures was on a much smaller budget than TW with little marketing and that did well. Of course Sarah was reintroduced on the parent show before a spin-off was viable. Class launching completely cold, even with a Capaldi cameo, was not quite the way I imagine all parties would do it retrospectively. If Ram or whoever was in a Doctor Who episode - not easy in a gap year of course - there may have been more Who watchers willing to follow Class even just to check it out. When even DWM declined to put Class on the cover (why couldn't they focus on The Doctor's role and use him for the cover pic?) it was clear even the fans of Doctor Who, much less the general populus weren't too bothered about Class even before broadcast. Most didn't seem to know it was already out the Saturday it launched online.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 24, 2017 12:47:15 GMT
Doesn't matter, it was always intended as a BBC 3 initiative and lives and dies on its sucess as one. If it had got decent viewing figures on BBC 3 maybe they would consider moving it to a bigger channel (ala Torchwood) but it didn't. Absolutely. Torchwood is the very model of how a show can grow organically with buzz, just the right marketing and a little luck. It went from BBC3 to BBC2 and then to primetime BBC1. A true success by any metric. When it launched, John Barrowman's profile - looking for all the world like James Bond with gun cocked and aimed - was on the side of buses and billboards up and down the country. And, of course, people knew who Captain Jack was. There wouldn't be the money to promote Class that heavily now Sarah Jane Adventures was on a much smaller budget than TW with little marketing and that did well. Of course Sarah was reintroduced on the parent show before a spin-off was viable. Class launching completely cold, even with a Capaldi cameo, was not quite the way I imagine all parties would do it retrospectively. If Ram or whoever was in a Doctor Who episode - not easy in a gap year of course - there may have been more Who watchers willing to follow Class even just to check it out. When even DWM declined to put Class on the cover (why couldn't they focus on The Doctor's role and use him for the cover pic?) it was clear even the fans of Doctor Who, much less the general populus weren't too bothered about Class even before broadcast. Most didn't seem to know it was already out the Saturday it launched online. Well DWM's piece on Class was in the 2017 Yearbook (that's not a miss-type BTW), but the fact they made an Editorial choice that it wouldn't sell well in a regular issue was a shocking indictment of the series.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Feb 24, 2017 12:48:26 GMT
Doesn't matter, it was always intended as a BBC 3 initiative and lives and dies on its sucess as one. If it had got decent viewing figures on BBC 3 maybe they would consider moving it to a bigger channel (ala Torchwood) but it didn't. Absolutely. Torchwood is the very model of how a show can grow organically with buzz, just the right marketing and a little luck. It went from BBC3 to BBC2 and then to primetime BBC1. A true success by any metric. When it launched, John Barrowman's profile - looking for all the world like James Bond with gun cocked and aimed - was on the side of buses and billboards up and down the country. And, of course, people knew who Captain Jack was. There wouldn't be the money to promote Class that heavily now Sarah Jane Adventures was on a much smaller budget than TW with little marketing and that did well. Of course Sarah was reintroduced on the parent show before a spin-off was viable. Class launching completely cold, even with a Capaldi cameo, was not quite the way I imagine all parties would do it retrospectively. If Ram or whoever was in a Doctor Who episode - not easy in a gap year of course - there may have been more Who watchers willing to follow Class even just to check it out. When even DWM declined to put Class on the cover (why couldn't they focus on The Doctor's role and use him for the cover pic?) it was clear even the fans of Doctor Who, much less the general populus weren't too bothered about Class even before broadcast. Most didn't seem to know it was already out the Saturday it launched online. In hindsight they should have just done a Paternoster Gang spinoff. It would have cost more, but there would have been many more viewers.
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Post by cowzilla3 on Feb 24, 2017 13:26:53 GMT
I really think the US release needs to happen for the BBC to make a decision. If it performs in the US they could continue it thanks to that... maybe.
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Post by cowzilla3 on Feb 24, 2017 13:28:30 GMT
Me too! I doubt it will be a huge hit, but they'll be kicking themselves if it catches on.
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