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Post by paulmorris7777 on Mar 14, 2017 19:12:08 GMT
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Post by muckypup on Mar 14, 2017 19:18:28 GMT
Yes and wasn't it awful, contrived & fake.
Poor david looked awkward and embarrassed at them attempting to banter.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 14, 2017 19:27:47 GMT
Yes and wasn't it awful, contrived & fake. Poor david looked awkward and embarrassed at them attempting to banter. Who can blame him? Top Gear should never have had another series after they decided not to renew Jeremy Clarkson's contract. If I were the BBC2 controller, I would have rested the show for five years. By then the Clarkson fracas controversy would have all died down, so there would be two options: either attempt to bring back Clarkson, Hammond and May or hire three new male presenters. If they'd rested it for five years, there would have been more chance of Post-Clarkson Top Gear working. It would have given time for viewers to get used to the prospect of no Clarkson Top Gear, instead of rushing into it and hoping the audience will just accept a marmite presenter like Chris Evans. All that's happened now is that as predicted, Chris Evans wasn't very popular and a Top Gear without the previous trio hasn't been given the chance to be a success. Matt LeBlanc was popular among viewers, but it doesn't stop him being a daft choice for a motoring show (what does an actor from Friends know about cars?).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2017 21:37:31 GMT
Quite right. It's being scientifically proven that if you are an actor from Friends, then you cannot possibly know anything about cars.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 14, 2017 21:49:57 GMT
Quite right. It's being scientifically proven that if you are an actor from Friends, then you cannot possibly know anything about cars. My point is: what are his qualifications to present a motoring show? He's not a motoring journalist, he hasn't had any experience working as a mechanic or in a similarly car-related job, he isn't even known to be any sort of expert on cars. Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May were all originally motoring journalists. Casting Matt LeBlanc as a Top Gear presenter is like getting Joey Essex to front an educational documentary about the Vikings. It's bizarre and a sign of a desperate BBC trying to cling onto the massive global audience Clarkson, Hammond and May had. They haven't been able to keep that same audience either, precisely because they rushed into it instead of resting the show.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 1:04:38 GMT
I never watched Top Gear, but I don't blame the BBC for contiuning the show. Hammond, by all accounts, was a long-standing embarrassment who should have been fired years ago and there is a bigger picture then a very popular show for the BBC in how it's percieved, even if the new series hasn't been as fairly recieved as it's preddesscor.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 15, 2017 1:51:40 GMT
Matt LeBlanc is quite renowned for being somewhat obsessed with cars and had popped up a lot on Top Gear beforehand. Chris Evans was always a risky choice, he tends to be a bit polarising and he did come across as trying a bit too hard last series. Maybe a rest would had helped, but I'm not sure. I haven't seen the most recent episodes so can't judge if it's improved.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 9:21:12 GMT
I think it has been considerably improved after last year, which was always going to face huge amounts of scrutiny and (perhaps understandable) hostility from fans of the original threesome. I think the new team are very good, very personable, although there is still a scripted feel to things - as there was when Clarkson, Hammond and May were presenting, although they had years to make it appear more like improvisation. It's doing well for a BBC 2 show, although ratings are much lower than before. But more importantly, this new series has been well received by the critics, which is a huge step up from last year.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 15, 2017 9:28:29 GMT
I never watched Top Gear, but I don't blame the BBC for contiuning the show. Hammond, by all accounts, was a long-standing embarrassment who should have been fired years ago and there is a bigger picture then a very popular show for the BBC in how it's percieved, even if the new series hasn't been as fairly recieved as it's preddesscor. First of all: what do you have against Richard Hammond? Richard Hammond is one of the best TV presenters and should be used much more than he currently is. Secondly: what 'big importance'? The show has become a massive waste of the license fee because the audience has dramatically shrunk. It has also lost its international audience. The BBC are the only ones who can be blamed for this.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 15, 2017 9:30:22 GMT
Matt LeBlanc is quite renowned for being somewhat obsessed with cars and had popped up a lot on Top Gear beforehand. Chris Evans was always a risky choice, he tends to be a bit polarising and he did come across as trying a bit too hard last series. Maybe a rest would had helped, but I'm not sure. I haven't seen the most recent episodes so can't judge if it's improved. But he's not a motoring journalist, a car expert or known for a job related to cars. I know Matt LeBlanc used to present some Top Gear compilations for BBC America but there's a big difference between that and actually presenting the show. The lead presenter of Top Gear should be a male motoring journalist with a strong personality.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 15, 2017 10:22:24 GMT
Matt LeBlanc is quite renowned for being somewhat obsessed with cars and had popped up a lot on Top Gear beforehand. Chris Evans was always a risky choice, he tends to be a bit polarising and he did come across as trying a bit too hard last series. Maybe a rest would had helped, but I'm not sure. I haven't seen the most recent episodes so can't judge if it's improved. But he's not a motoring journalist, a car expert or known for a job related to cars. I know Matt LeBlanc used to present some Top Gear compilations for BBC America but there's a big difference between that and actually presenting the show. The lead presenter of Top Gear should be a male motoring journalist with a strong personality. They seldom did actual car journalism anyway, the closest they came was the road tests and LeBlanc showed he could do them last series. Besides how many motoring journalists with TV experience are there these days?
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Post by jasonward on Mar 15, 2017 10:32:50 GMT
Matt LeBlanc is quite renowned for being somewhat obsessed with cars and had popped up a lot on Top Gear beforehand. Chris Evans was always a risky choice, he tends to be a bit polarising and he did come across as trying a bit too hard last series. Maybe a rest would had helped, but I'm not sure. I haven't seen the most recent episodes so can't judge if it's improved. But he's not a motoring journalist, a car expert or known for a job related to cars. I know Matt LeBlanc used to present some Top Gear compilations for BBC America but there's a big difference between that and actually presenting the show. The lead presenter of Top Gear should be a male motoring journalist with a strong personality. The lead presenter of Top Gear should be male or female with an interest in cars with strong presentational skills. Matt Leblanc fails somewhat on the strong presentational skills, but is definitely improving with time, much as the original Top Gear team did (go watch some of the earliest episode if you believe Clarkson et al were somehow pre-formed perfect Top Gear presenters). So far really been enjoying the new series and much as I quite liked Chris Evans, the team as it is now seems strong and set to get stronger.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 15, 2017 11:05:36 GMT
But he's not a motoring journalist, a car expert or known for a job related to cars. I know Matt LeBlanc used to present some Top Gear compilations for BBC America but there's a big difference between that and actually presenting the show. The lead presenter of Top Gear should be a male motoring journalist with a strong personality. They seldom did actual car journalism anyway, the closest they came was the road tests and LeBlanc showed he could do them last series. Besides how many motoring journalists with TV experience are there these days? They don't necessarily need TV experience so long as they are good on camera and have actual expertise in the area, rather than cast purely because they were in a popular show.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 15, 2017 11:06:35 GMT
(go watch some of the earliest episode if you believe Clarkson et al were somehow pre-formed perfect Top Gear presenters). They were always perfect to me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 12:17:18 GMT
(go watch some of the earliest episode if you believe Clarkson et al were somehow pre-formed perfect Top Gear presenters). They were always perfect to me. Clarkson was always great entertainment... I'm not sure perfect is a word I'd attribute to him though!
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Post by whiskeybrewer on Mar 15, 2017 12:24:24 GMT
Ive found this series to be a vast improvement on last series (which i still enjoyed). And i do love the interplay between the three. They arent trying to emulate the Clarkson era anymore, they've finally moved past that and have gone a different route somewhat
Also David Tennant gave Zero F***s about the car he dented lmao
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 15, 2017 12:49:29 GMT
I'm sure David Tennant gives 'zero ****s' about Top Gear.
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Post by jasonward on Mar 15, 2017 12:56:02 GMT
He seemed very keen to me to be there driving the car, he loved it.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 15, 2017 12:56:02 GMT
They seldom did actual car journalism anyway, the closest they came was the road tests and LeBlanc showed he could do them last series. Besides how many motoring journalists with TV experience are there these days? They don't necessarily need TV experience so long as they are good on camera and have actual expertise in the area, rather than cast purely because they were in a popular show. It's a TV show, they kind of need that experience. Besides no-one ever really watched Top Gear for the facts about cars.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 15, 2017 13:07:02 GMT
They don't necessarily need TV experience so long as they are good on camera and have actual expertise in the area, rather than cast purely because they were in a popular show. It's a TV show, they kind of need that experience. Besides no-one ever really watched Top Gear for the facts about cars. Many journalists come from newspapers to TV. Even actors come from theatre to TV. Pearl Mackie has very little experience on camera!
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