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Post by theillusiveman on May 30, 2020 14:32:47 GMT
Okay Thinking it through Big Finish is likely correct that Chris isnt returning to the role and yeah i guess hopefully some day in the near future he will return to the role
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Post by cwm on May 30, 2020 15:25:03 GMT
Okay Thinking it through Big Finish is likely correct that Chris isnt returning to the role and yeah i guess hopefully some day in the near future he will return to the role BF's explanation for why that page is there makes no sense though. I still think there's more to this, but the denial is probably because it's sensitive information, so perhaps we should wait and see...
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 15:45:43 GMT
Okay Thinking it through Big Finish is likely correct that Chris isnt returning to the role and yeah i guess hopefully some day in the near future he will return to the role BF's explanation for why that page is there makes no sense though. I still think there's more to this, but the denial is probably because it's sensitive information, so perhaps we should wait and see... Assuming it wasn't a simple website administrator error/database read type mix up (he is a cover star after all), it puts me in mind of the following exchange, from Red Dwarf; Holly: OK. I admit it. I've Flamingoed up,Rimmer: Whats Flamingoed Up supposed to mean?Holly: Well, its like a Cock Up basically, only much, much bigger.
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Post by mark687 on May 30, 2020 15:56:23 GMT
Hang on it was a deliberate Plant!
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Post by grinch on May 30, 2020 16:00:29 GMT
Hang on it was a deliberate Plant! Regards mark687 This is all very bizarre. If this doesn’t lead to anything (which I do think is very much the case) then this is a really odd choice on their part.
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Post by cwm on May 30, 2020 16:03:44 GMT
Hang on it was a deliberate Plant! Regards mark687 That explanation doesn't make any sense, though - or at the very least there are some serious holes in it. They created a fake contributors' page for Eccleston just to trick people into thinking he was going to do a BF, on the off-chance they happened to find it? Surely they'd risk pissing off Eccleston if he heard about them deliberately trying to make people think he was working for them, and potentially end up in serious trouble? As I mentioned above, my feeling is that this is sensitive information that's not meant to be announced for a little while so they're trying to head people off and that was the first idea that popped into the head of whoever runs the social media feed.
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Post by mbt66 on May 30, 2020 16:06:05 GMT
If... if... if... it's really happening it's bound to be for Time Lord Victorious, in which case as it's work-for-hire for BBC Studios they definitely couldn't admit anything. If fact, even accidentally giving anything away could get them into trouble. Interesting line of thought. When they say "they" haven't got him, cross their hearts - perhaps BF haven't, but BBC have. But they went out of their way on the podcast recently to say categorically that Chris Eccleston wasn’t in Time Lord Victorious. Now I know that some press outlets were rampantly speculating his involvement and Big Finish had probably had several enquires, but they weren’t under any obligation to make any form of announcement, especially as they are not the owners of the Time Lord Victorious event. I can only imagine that they do have Christopher Eccleston onboard for a non Who audio project which they don’t want to mention. At least that is the only thing that makes sense of the facts that we have.
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Post by jahawk2009 on May 30, 2020 16:08:51 GMT
Interesting line of thought. When they say "they" haven't got him, cross their hearts - perhaps BF haven't, but BBC have. But they went out of their way on the podcast recently to say categorically that Chris Eccleston wasn’t in Time Lord Victorious. Now I know that some press outlets were rampantly speculating his involvement and Big Finish had probably had several enquires, but they weren’t under any obligation to make any form of announcement, especially as they are not the owners of the Time Lord Victorious event. I can only imagine that they do have Christopher Eccleston onboard for a non Who audio project which they don’t want to mention. At least that is the only thing that makes sense of the facts that we have. Well, technically, Nick said Chris wasn't in TLV *with* Billie
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Post by mbt66 on May 30, 2020 16:17:17 GMT
But they went out of their way on the podcast recently to say categorically that Chris Eccleston wasn’t in Time Lord Victorious. Now I know that some press outlets were rampantly speculating his involvement and Big Finish had probably had several enquires, but they weren’t under any obligation to make any form of announcement, especially as they are not the owners of the Time Lord Victorious event. I can only imagine that they do have Christopher Eccleston onboard for a non Who audio project which they don’t want to mention. At least that is the only thing that makes sense of the facts that we have. Well, technically, Nick said Chris wasn't in TLV *with* Billie Ha! (that made me laugh) you win by a technicality!
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Post by stcoop on May 30, 2020 16:28:52 GMT
Could it be nothing? Absolutely.
But it would hardly be the first time they denied something that later turned out to be true. And I wouldn't even blame them for it if there's contractual reasons behind it.
Where they lost all credibility was talking about putting false stories on actors CVs on Spotlight. I'd imagine you could get thrown out of Equity for claiming you've done work that doesn't exist.
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Post by fitzoliverj on May 30, 2020 16:30:05 GMT
Well, technically, Nick said Chris wasn't in TLV *with* Billie Absolutely, I remember thinking at the time that Nick said TLV would not feature "Christopher Ecclestone AND Billie Piper". But he didn't say it wouldn't feature "Christopher Ecclestone OR Billie Piper", so technically one of them could still be in it. Arguably even both, but appearing separately. Incidentally, if Christopher Ecclestone or his representatives are lurking here and reading these comments, if BF are indeed playing silly whatsits putting his name on their website without his having any involvement in their output, please don't take offence - as you may have seen in the papers this week, sometimes people do foolish things. Alternatively, if BF merely jumped the gun and Christopher Ecclestone really is going to work with BF in some capacity, please don't be offended or scared off by this controversary. Fans are terribly keen to have him be in a BF play, preferably as the ninth Doctor, but frankly would probably just be as excited if it was, say Dark Shadows. Less so if it's Jekyll & Hyde, because frankly the chances are we'll be past the second wave and out of lockdown and worrying about the next awful crisis but one by the time *that* comes out. (And if we're going to speculate wildly - we've had ten-to-four, what about that song "Nine To Five"?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 18:02:21 GMT
Hang on it was a deliberate Plant! Regards mark687 This is all very bizarre. If this doesn’t lead to anything (which I do think is very much the case) then this is a really odd choice on their part. What about Sophie Iles?: www.bigfinish.com/contributors/v/11560www.sophieiles.co.uk/children-in-time-companions-in-doctor-who.htmlThen there's Misha Malcolm, Pauline Eyre, Martin McDougall, Jack DeVos, Tracy Ann Baines...and then we are onto new to BF artists, booked for forthcoming releases such as Space Precinct and The Lovecraft Invasion, Missy Series 2, whilst the preceding entries are for the likes of the new Gerry Anderson audiobooks too. So there is a missing production in there, with cast members on the Database, but not yet linked to the Audio release they will be appearing. I don't think anyone was meant to find it and that they are on the system prematurely. At least I hope that's the case. Ahh....yes...cough.....you found the hidden clues....well done......etc..
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Post by jahawk2009 on May 30, 2020 18:03:56 GMT
This is all very bizarre. If this doesn’t lead to anything (which I do think is very much the case) then this is a really odd choice on their part. What about Sophie Iles?: www.bigfinish.com/contributors/v/11560www.sophieiles.co.uk/children-in-time-companions-in-doctor-who.htmlThen there's Misha Malcolm, Pauline Eyre, Martin McDougall, Jack DeVos, Tracy Ann Baines...and then we are onto new to BF artists, booked for forthcoming releases such as Space Precinct and The Lovecraft Invasion, Missy Series 2, whilst the preceding entries are for the likes of the new Gerry Anderson audiobooks too. So there is a missing production in there, with cast members on the Database, but not yet linked to the Audio release they will be appearing. I don't think anyone was meant to find it and that they are on the system prematurely. At least I hope that's the case. Ahh....yes...cough.....you found the hidden clues....well done......etc.. And we know from her CV that Misha has worked on a Time Lord Victorious story. Sophie Iles has written a subscribers short trip, so maybe another batch of rarities coming soon.
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Post by shallacatop on May 30, 2020 18:17:59 GMT
I’m getting deja vu of the Dominic Cummings / Conservative fiasco from last weekend with each revelation made by Big Finish! Nothing adds up and they dig the hole deeper with each word.
Not as serious, of course, but unprofessional, baffling and infuriating nonetheless.
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Post by eldersensorite on May 30, 2020 18:41:54 GMT
I'm not really sure how it's wrong or unprofessional to have a page up for him? There's no releases on it so it's not like they're claiming he's done stuff he hasn't, and it's not easy to find so it's not like someone who wasn't a dedicated fan who knows it's very unlikely he's done a Big Finish would find it anyway so I'm not sure it's really misleading in a serious way. I would agree fake CV listings are wrong and I hope that hasn't been done but I see no harm in a nearly blank website page with no false information on it.
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Post by mbt66 on May 30, 2020 19:58:20 GMT
I do hope that the spotlight entry for the audio title Time Lord Victorious: He Kills Me, He Kills Me Not isn’t fake, because that is a great title for a story!
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Post by cwm on May 30, 2020 20:36:06 GMT
I do hope that the spotlight entry for the audio title Time Lord Victorious: He Kills Me, He Kills Me Not isn’t fake, because that is a great title for a story! There's no way it's fake. There's no way a falsified entry would appear on someone's Spotlight page.
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Post by ollychops on May 30, 2020 20:44:17 GMT
I'm not really sure how it's wrong or unprofessional to have a page up for him? There's no releases on it so it's not like they're claiming he's done stuff he hasn't, and it's not easy to find so it's not like someone who wasn't a dedicated fan who knows it's very unlikely he's done a Big Finish would find it anyway so I'm not sure it's really misleading in a serious way. I would agree fake CV listings are wrong and I hope that hasn't been done but I see no harm in a nearly blank website page with no false information on it. Yeah, to me all this fuss seems a bit overblown. And the CV-altering comment was very tongue in cheek, so I’m surprised anyone is taking that one seriously...
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Post by cwm on May 30, 2020 21:12:34 GMT
I'm not really sure how it's wrong or unprofessional to have a page up for him? There's no releases on it so it's not like they're claiming he's done stuff he hasn't, and it's not easy to find so it's not like someone who wasn't a dedicated fan who knows it's very unlikely he's done a Big Finish would find it anyway so I'm not sure it's really misleading in a serious way. I would agree fake CV listings are wrong and I hope that hasn't been done but I see no harm in a nearly blank website page with no false information on it. BF's claim - as posted on their own social media channel - is that the page was put up to try and trick people messing with website URLs trying to find information about unannounced releases into wrongly thinking Eccleston was going to join the company soon. If Eccleston or his management got word of that, do you really think they'd be impressed by BF, by their own admission, trying to generate false reports that he was working for them?
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Post by Audio Watchdog on May 30, 2020 21:15:37 GMT
I think some of you guys are taking this way, way too seriously.
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