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Post by shallacatop on Jul 12, 2020 17:52:07 GMT
I personally liked the approach of Gallifrey: Time War 1, where it was a jewel case but with individual art available digitally, I prefer the jewel cases on the shelf; they take up less space and the art on the spine looks better to my eyes; less wasted space or an overly big picture of the Doctor.
On paper, I think that would be a good compromise that wouldn’t necessitate an increase in costs. You’d have the additional fees of paying the artist for extra work, but that’s a one-off, unlike the physical printing and manufacturing costs. Of course, it depends entirely on their margins. Keep in mind that the individual artwork in a set wasn’t typically as extravagant as the slipcase art, so the cost to make them would presumably be smaller; it shouldn’t be a case of quadrupling the cost.
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Post by nitronine on Jul 12, 2020 19:14:28 GMT
I personally liked the approach of Gallifrey: Time War 1, where it was a jewel case but with individual art available digitally, I prefer the jewel cases on the shelf; they take up less space and the art on the spine looks better to my eyes; less wasted space or an overly big picture of the Doctor. On paper, I think that would be a good compromise that wouldn’t necessitate an increase in costs. You’d have the additional fees of paying the artist for extra work, but that’s a one-off, unlike the physical printing and manufacturing costs. Of course, it depends entirely on their margins. Keep in mind that the individual artwork in a set wasn’t typically as extravagant as the slipcase art, so the cost to make them would presumably be smaller; it shouldn’t be a case of quadrupling the cost. Someone asked if they could do that but they said no unfortunately.
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Post by shallacatop on Jul 12, 2020 20:54:51 GMT
In that case, I’m happy with the current pricing and jewel cases and the one cover, then. I’m glad it’s something they thought about, though.
I do think I’d be a download customer if the prices were more reasonably priced, though. I think they’re pricey and make the physical releases look better as a result. I’m a big fan of physical media, but there’s just something about Big Finish that I’d be fine to go without; it might be because I listen to the downloads on the app. It might also be because I don’t collect other audio dramas, so I don’t get the sense of an overall variety like I do with books and DVDs, BluRay & 4K, etc.
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Post by ollychops on Jul 12, 2020 22:04:19 GMT
I do prefer having individual covers for the most part, so if it was only a couple quids' difference, I probably wouldn't mind paying a little extra for it, but if it's a major difference than what we're already paying then I'm fine with going without.
I do think there are a lot of factors to look at in regards to individual covers though. I didn't think that the individual covers for S5 & 6 of Torchwood were diverse enough to justify having individual covers, so that's one of the rare cases where I would have been happy without.
But with Doctor Who, every story is typically in a different location/time, with different characters, etc., that it's nice to have individual covers for those stories. But when it's a range that is mainly set in one location (for example, TW: AAU/GAU) or very closely linked/serialised (like the War Master sets), I don't think it's worth doing individual covers for each story.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 12, 2020 22:22:33 GMT
They are still only getting a small(?) percentage of people on twitter with these polls. Still astounds me they don't put it on the official website, u know- where you go to purchase the products. Also, facebook too would help. Broaden you parameters and get more of your customer base via different platforms.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 12, 2020 22:26:41 GMT
They are still only getting a small(?) percentage of people on twitter with these polls. Still astounds me they don't put it on the official website, u know- where you go to purchase the products. Also, facebook too would help. Broaden you parameters and get more of your customer base via different platforms. I just do not get their weird fixation on Twitter.
But maybe it is just me, I am not the biggest fan of Twitter in general.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 12, 2020 22:28:09 GMT
They are still only getting a small(?) percentage of people on twitter with these polls. Still astounds me they don't put it on the official website, u know- where you go to purchase the products. Also, facebook too would help. Broaden you parameters and get more of your customer base via different platforms. I just do not get their weird fixation on Twitter.
But maybe it is just me, I am not the biggest fan of Twitter in general.
Same here- I lasted maybe 1 week. facebook I can be on 24/7 no dramas there in any way. Marketing 101 - throw out the "widest net" possible to reel the most fish in.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Jul 12, 2020 23:34:57 GMT
I just do not get their weird fixation on Twitter.
But maybe it is just me, I am not the biggest fan of Twitter in general.
Same here- I lasted maybe 1 week. facebook I can be on 24/7 no dramas there in any way. Marketing 101 - throw out the "widest net" possible to reel the most fish in. It is probably the favored platform of whomever is in charge of their marketing squad.
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Post by tuigirl on Jul 12, 2020 23:42:39 GMT
Same here- I lasted maybe 1 week. facebook I can be on 24/7 no dramas there in any way. Marketing 101 - throw out the "widest net" possible to reel the most fish in. It is probably the favored platform of whomever is in charge of their marketing squad. Yeah, presumably. As to why? Beats me.
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Post by Digi on Jul 12, 2020 23:51:07 GMT
Twitter has plenty of problems, but Facebook is a garbage company that nobody should embrace or trust. If I ran a company, I wouldn't do my marketing there either.
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on Jul 13, 2020 2:22:10 GMT
Twitter has plenty of problems, but Facebook is a garbage company that nobody should embrace or trust. If I ran a company, I wouldn't do my marketing there either. Oh yeh, I see lots of " wompwompwomp waawaawaahhh" on the fb page, however, to reach as much of your core audience you have to think outside the square IMHO.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 5:27:20 GMT
It is probably the favored platform of whomever is in charge of their marketing squad. Yeah, presumably. As to why? Beats me. Those two dreaded words -- market expectations. The expectation these days is that a professional company have a Facebook page as part-and-parcel of their marketing. It's the most used form of social media worldwide with something approaching 3 billion active users vs. Twitter's almost 4 million. It's a numbers game and it's the platform that's showing the widest net, which makes the decision to do in-house Twitter polls a bit strange, actually. I'm wondering... Can they actually automate polls on the new website? They might not be able to because of the way it was put together. Another way to do it could be to use something like StrawPoll. Accessible from Twitter, sure, but it'd give anyone without a Twitter account the opportunity to contribute to as well. Plus, it could be shared across multiple platforms at once without running into compatibility issues. All that's needed would be a link. That'd cover frequenters on the website, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.
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Post by theillusiveman on Jul 13, 2020 9:08:01 GMT
What if you had a big artwork and inside the artwork there were 4 images lets take Gallifrey Time War 1 as an example Image A on the top left would be Ace and Braxiet, Image B would be Leela and The Master in the background Image C would be Narvin behind a location or with a Dalek and Image D would be Romana 2 with The Dalek Emperor Now what if they were all reduced to fit within the big image and it all looks connected
that way it could be one commission but then for each CD/Episode/Cover would be the Image A/B/C/D by itself just expanded with little fixes and smooth edging
if that makes sense
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Post by mark687 on Jul 13, 2020 9:23:32 GMT
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Post by xlozdob on Jul 13, 2020 9:48:18 GMT
"More multiplatform #DoctorWho: Time Lord Victorious announcements to come in July." Wonder if that means more info on the secret unannounced 5th Audio? Probably but it also means details about non-BF events will be unveiled. I presume they'll wait until their SDCC panel to do the remaining announcements, so that fits with the coming in July bit.
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Post by mark687 on Jul 13, 2020 10:04:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 10:05:49 GMT
What if you had a big artwork and inside the artwork there were 4 images lets take Gallifrey Time War 1 as an example Image A on the top left would be Ace and Braxiet, Image B would be Leela and The Master in the background Image C would be Narvin behind a location or with a Dalek and Image D would be Romana 2 with The Dalek Emperor Now what if they were all reduced to fit within the big image and it all looks connected that way it could be one commission but then for each CD/Episode/Cover would be the Image A/B/C/D by itself just expanded with little fixes and smooth edging if that makes sense Four distinct images - even if stitched together - would still require the same amount of work as four covers, and would be pretty difficult to implement with logo placement, etc. Not to mention the fact reducing four artworks down into one big piece would make a lot of the detail indistinct at CD resolution, which would compromise the physical product... The only reason Gallifrey TW 1 has individual download covers is that the decision to drop individual artwork for the range was made after the artworks had been commissioned, and for consistency on the shelves with future releases, only the main artwork was required. Given the rate of inflation generally, if it's a choice between just one artwork to reduce costs, or increasing cost to customer to match rising production expenses in all areas, I'd be inclined (as a customer) to drop additional artwork.
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Post by theillusiveman on Jul 13, 2020 10:46:15 GMT
What if you had a big artwork and inside the artwork there were 4 images lets take Gallifrey Time War 1 as an example Image A on the top left would be Ace and Braxiet, Image B would be Leela and The Master in the background Image C would be Narvin behind a location or with a Dalek and Image D would be Romana 2 with The Dalek Emperor Now what if they were all reduced to fit within the big image and it all looks connected that way it could be one commission but then for each CD/Episode/Cover would be the Image A/B/C/D by itself just expanded with little fixes and smooth edging if that makes sense Four distinct images - even if stitched together - would still require the same amount of work as four covers, and would be pretty difficult to implement with logo placement, etc. Not to mention the fact reducing four artworks down into one big piece would make a lot of the detail indistinct at CD resolution, which would compromise the physical product... The only reason Gallifrey TW 1 has individual download covers is that the decision to drop individual artwork for the range was made after the artworks had been commissioned, and for consistency on the shelves with future releases, only the main artwork was required. Given the rate of inflation generally, if it's a choice between just one artwork to reduce costs, or increasing cost to customer to match rising production expenses in all areas, I'd be inclined (as a customer) to drop additional artwork. how about something like the futher adventures of lucie miller with the countdown images (Lucie with the blackhole and dalek), the other photo of McGann with the house and the static people/creatures something that is still part of the main artwork but can be divided for the stories and represent it could that be an option
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Post by muckypup on Jul 13, 2020 18:39:28 GMT
It’s great to have individual art for each episode in a box set........but if commissioning art for each one is cost prohibitive Why can we not have covers featuring the same artwork but the title of the episode featured prominently
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Post by mark687 on Jul 13, 2020 20:34:44 GMT
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