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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on May 29, 2024 8:58:46 GMT
And buried at the bottom of that news is confirmation this is the last Ninth Doctor set: ‘Star-Crossed will be Christopher Eccleston’s final box set in the current Ninth Doctor Adventures range. Of his time making this series with Big Finish, Eccleston said: “The Big Finish experience has, to date, been enjoyable and has afforded me the chance to revisit a character I was able to bring to life almost twenty years ago. For now, it is time for me to return to the TARDIS and disappear for a while, but as we know, the world of the Doctor is unpredictable, so this is not a goodbye but an au revoir”.’ So for time being that leaves Big Finish with no modern Doctors apart from Carley’s War Doctor. argh..
Was just chatting with theillusiveman about this topic .. Maybe it will come back ala River Song/ War Doctor Begins.. a different "name" but basically same concept?!
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Post by lidar2 on May 29, 2024 9:04:03 GMT
And buried at the bottom of that news is confirmation this is the last Ninth Doctor set: ‘Star-Crossed will be Christopher Eccleston’s final box set in the current Ninth Doctor Adventures range. Of his time making this series with Big Finish, Eccleston said: “The Big Finish experience has, to date, been enjoyable and has afforded me the chance to revisit a character I was able to bring to life almost twenty years ago. For now, it is time for me to return to the TARDIS and disappear for a while, but as we know, the world of the Doctor is unpredictable, so this is not a goodbye but an au revoir”.’ So for time being that leaves Big Finish with no modern Doctors apart from Carley’s War Doctor. Well that's sad, but not entirely surprising - the pessimist in me did think all this Eccleston was too good to last. Still, we must be grateful for what we got and hold out hope for more
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Post by theillusiveman on May 29, 2024 9:45:18 GMT
And buried at the bottom of that news is confirmation this is the last Ninth Doctor set: ‘Star-Crossed will be Christopher Eccleston’s final box set in the current Ninth Doctor Adventures range. Of his time making this series with Big Finish, Eccleston said: “The Big Finish experience has, to date, been enjoyable and has afforded me the chance to revisit a character I was able to bring to life almost twenty years ago. For now, it is time for me to return to the TARDIS and disappear for a while, but as we know, the world of the Doctor is unpredictable, so this is not a goodbye but an au revoir”.’ So for time being that leaves Big Finish with no modern Doctors apart from Carley’s War Doctor. argh..
Was just chatting with theillusiveman about this topic .. Maybe it will come back ala River Song/ War Doctor Begins.. a different "name" but basically same concept?!
Honestly I think that they need a Dark Eyes/ Dalek Universe style re launch and a direction for his Doctor to go through
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2024 9:45:58 GMT
And buried at the bottom of that news is confirmation this is the last Ninth Doctor set: ‘Star-Crossed will be Christopher Eccleston’s final box set in the current Ninth Doctor Adventures range. Of his time making this series with Big Finish, Eccleston said: “The Big Finish experience has, to date, been enjoyable and has afforded me the chance to revisit a character I was able to bring to life almost twenty years ago. For now, it is time for me to return to the TARDIS and disappear for a while, but as we know, the world of the Doctor is unpredictable, so this is not a goodbye but an au revoir”.’ So for time being that leaves Big Finish with no modern Doctors apart from Carley’s War Doctor. Well that's sad, but not entirely surprising - the pessimist in me did think all this Eccleston was too good to last. Still, we must be grateful for what we got and hold out hope for more Also, 'not a goodbye but an au revoir' is a heck of a more optimistic and happy note to leave Doctor Who than when he handed over to David Tennant back in 2005
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Post by aussiedoctorwhofan on May 29, 2024 9:54:12 GMT
argh..
Was just chatting with theillusiveman about this topic .. Maybe it will come back ala River Song/ War Doctor Begins.. a different "name" but basically same concept?!
Honestly I think that they need a Dark Eyes/ Dalek Universe style re launch and a direction for his Doctor to go through Amen- if these current stories are PG Rated, go a bit more with the "oomph" to make it an M-lite rated ..
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Post by mark687 on May 29, 2024 11:42:19 GMT
Typical another sudden change of Status Quo handled with an opac PR Release that's open to every interpretation right before BF Day as well
Small possibly still remains thee'll be 9DA and Rose in the medium term but the hit to BF Income.
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Post by sherlock on May 29, 2024 12:21:37 GMT
Typical another sudden change of Status Quo handled with an opac PR Release that's open to every interpretation right before BF Day as well Small possibly still remains thee'll be 9DA and Rose in the medium term but the hit to BF Income. Regards mark687 Well on the income point Big Finish are now nearly entirely dependent on classic Who again for their output. Pending any announcements to recommission ranges, only ongoing modern ranges left are River (being rebooted), Jenny (very sporadic), Paternoster Gang (seems to only come in batches), Missy (as and when Gomez is available) and the various Time War ranges. Seems they really need the Fugitive Doctor and Call Me Master to do well to revitalise this.
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Post by theillusiveman on May 29, 2024 12:58:03 GMT
Typical another sudden change of Status Quo handled with an opac PR Release that's open to every interpretation right before BF Day as well Small possibly still remains thee'll be 9DA and Rose in the medium term but the hit to BF Income. Regards mark687 Well on the income point Big Finish are now nearly entirely dependent on classic Who again for their output. Pending any announcements to recommission ranges, only ongoing modern ranges left are River (being rebooted), Jenny (very sporadic), Paternoster Gang (seems to only come in batches), Missy (as and when Gomez is available) and the various Time War ranges. Seems they really need the Fugitive Doctor and Call Me Master to do well to revitalise this. I Mean lets see Main companion wise
Rose Tyler Dimension Cannon- Billie Piper is in demand and unlikely to come back anytime soon
The Lives of Captain Jack- John Barrowman is basically blacklisted so the range is permanently retired
The Year of Martha Jones- Freema Agyeman is in high demand and unlikely to come back anytime soon
Donne Noble Kidnapped- Since she has appeared in the 2023 Specials i can imagine that she is off limits to Big Finish
Lady Christina- Viable Option depends on Sales Numbers for Volume 2
The Diary of River Song- Range is continuing with 3 new boxsets in new format
The Lone Centurion- Unlikely unless Arthur Darvill wants to come back and also depends on Sales Numbers for Volume 3
Jenny The Doctor's Daughter- We are getting one boxset but its highly unlikely we will get more if Georgia Tennant is busy
Plus you got actresses like Karen Gillian and Jenna Coleman who are in high demand and wont likely come to big finish in a long time plus Matt Lucas doesn't want to come back as Nardole so that's one less companion from the 12th Doctor Era
Big Finish can still do New ranges or releases with companions like
Jackson Lake- The Next Doctor
Bill Potts The Ghost from Doctor Mysterio
Highly doubt they would do anything with them
but yeah there isn't a whole lot they can really do New Who wise unless they go ahead with more recasts like the Doctor Chronicles range (wasn't it rumoured they are auditioning for the 11th doctor chronicles?)
plus UNIT New Series is likely off limits
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Post by lidar2 on May 29, 2024 13:21:26 GMT
Well on the income point Big Finish are now nearly entirely dependent on classic Who again for their output. Pending any announcements to recommission ranges, only ongoing modern ranges left are River (being rebooted), Jenny (very sporadic), Paternoster Gang (seems to only come in batches), Missy (as and when Gomez is available) and the various Time War ranges. Seems they really need the Fugitive Doctor and Call Me Master to do well to revitalise this. I Mean lets see Main companion wise
Rose Tyler Dimension Cannon- Billie Piper is in demand and unlikely to come back anytime soon
The Lives of Captain Jack- John Barrowman is basically blacklisted so the range is permanently retired
The Year of Martha Jones- Freema Agyeman is in high demand and unlikely to come back anytime soon
Donne Noble Kidnapped- Since she has appeared in the 2023 Specials i can imagine that she is off limits to Big Finish
Lady Christina- Viable Option depends on Sales Numbers for Volume 2
The Diary of River Song- Range is continuing with 3 new boxsets in new format
The Lone Centurion- Unlikely unless Arthur Darvill wants to come back and also depends on Sales Numbers for Volume 3
Jenny The Doctor's Daughter- We are getting one boxset but its highly unlikely we will get more if Georgia Tennant is busy
Plus you got actresses like Karen Gillian and Jenna Coleman who are in high demand and wont likely come to big finish in a long time plus Matt Lucas doesn't want to come back as Nardole so that's one less companion from the 12th Doctor Era
Big Finish can still do New ranges or releases with companions like
Jackson Lake- The Next Doctor
Bill Potts The Ghost from Doctor Mysterio
Highly doubt they would do anything with them
but yeah there isn't a whole lot they can really do New Who wise unless they go ahead with more recasts like the Doctor Chronicles range (wasn't it rumoured they are auditioning for the 11th doctor chronicles?)
plus UNIT New Series is likely off limits
Lone Centurion volume 3?
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Post by mark687 on May 29, 2024 13:29:52 GMT
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Post by theillusiveman on May 29, 2024 14:09:58 GMT
I Mean lets see Main companion wise
Rose Tyler Dimension Cannon- Billie Piper is in demand and unlikely to come back anytime soon
The Lives of Captain Jack- John Barrowman is basically blacklisted so the range is permanently retired
The Year of Martha Jones- Freema Agyeman is in high demand and unlikely to come back anytime soon
Donne Noble Kidnapped- Since she has appeared in the 2023 Specials i can imagine that she is off limits to Big Finish
Lady Christina- Viable Option depends on Sales Numbers for Volume 2
The Diary of River Song- Range is continuing with 3 new boxsets in new format
The Lone Centurion- Unlikely unless Arthur Darvill wants to come back and also depends on Sales Numbers for Volume 3
Jenny The Doctor's Daughter- We are getting one boxset but its highly unlikely we will get more if Georgia Tennant is busy
Plus you got actresses like Karen Gillian and Jenna Coleman who are in high demand and wont likely come to big finish in a long time plus Matt Lucas doesn't want to come back as Nardole so that's one less companion from the 12th Doctor Era
Big Finish can still do New ranges or releases with companions like
Jackson Lake- The Next Doctor
Bill Potts The Ghost from Doctor Mysterio
Highly doubt they would do anything with them
but yeah there isn't a whole lot they can really do New Who wise unless they go ahead with more recasts like the Doctor Chronicles range (wasn't it rumoured they are auditioning for the 11th doctor chronicles?)
plus UNIT New Series is likely off limits
Lone Centurion volume 3? Volume 2*
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Post by shallacatop on May 29, 2024 14:24:26 GMT
To be fair to Big Finish, I don't think there's any bad PR here. It's the last Ninth Doctor set of the series and no more are up for pre-order, so in the article they've mentioned that it's going to be Eccleston's last, at least for now. Can't think of anywhere more appropriate; it certainly doesn't warrant its own article saying he is leaving, as that just looks weird and brings back memories of the BBC in March 2005!
He's done far more than any of us expected to do and I think the current format they're adhering to is well and truly exhausted. At worst, it's an extended break for a range that hasn't randomly / suddenly ended. At best, it's an opportunity for a reboot in the coming months.
As for a hit to BF income? That's just the nature of the business, isn't it? What they may take a hit on in sales is softened by not needing to front up recording / production costs. As long as their other ranges stay profitable, they will be fine. Making less, but producing less; nature of the beast.
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Post by timleschild on May 29, 2024 14:46:07 GMT
Well on the income point Big Finish are now nearly entirely dependent on classic Who again for their output. Pending any announcements to recommission ranges, only ongoing modern ranges left are River (being rebooted), Jenny (very sporadic), Paternoster Gang (seems to only come in batches), Missy (as and when Gomez is available) and the various Time War ranges. Seems they really need the Fugitive Doctor and Call Me Master to do well to revitalise this. I Mean lets see Main companion wise
Rose Tyler Dimension Cannon- Billie Piper is in demand and unlikely to come back anytime soon
The Lives of Captain Jack- John Barrowman is basically blacklisted so the range is permanently retired
The Year of Martha Jones- Freema Agyeman is in high demand and unlikely to come back anytime soon
Donne Noble Kidnapped- Since she has appeared in the 2023 Specials i can imagine that she is off limits to Big Finish
Lady Christina- Viable Option depends on Sales Numbers for Volume 2
The Diary of River Song- Range is continuing with 3 new boxsets in new format
The Lone Centurion- Unlikely unless Arthur Darvill wants to come back and also depends on Sales Numbers for Volume 3
Jenny The Doctor's Daughter- We are getting one boxset but its highly unlikely we will get more if Georgia Tennant is busy
Plus you got actresses like Karen Gillian and Jenna Coleman who are in high demand and wont likely come to big finish in a long time plus Matt Lucas doesn't want to come back as Nardole so that's one less companion from the 12th Doctor Era
Big Finish can still do New ranges or releases with companions like
Jackson Lake- The Next Doctor
Bill Potts The Ghost from Doctor Mysterio
Highly doubt they would do anything with them
but yeah there isn't a whole lot they can really do New Who wise unless they go ahead with more recasts like the Doctor Chronicles range (wasn't it rumoured they are auditioning for the 11th doctor chronicles?)
plus UNIT New Series is likely off limits
& most of these I've heard aren't great. BF are in a weird position at the moment with none of the classic Doctors getting any younger. & of course if there are tv show spin-offs will that impact on BF? Why pay a premium for the spin-offs BF do if we can get tv spin offs for "free"? But yet again this is bad PR from BF. Announcing this as the final set earlier would surely have gained more interest?
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Post by nardolespinoffwhen on May 29, 2024 14:58:05 GMT
Well on the income point Big Finish are now nearly entirely dependent on classic Who again for their output. Pending any announcements to recommission ranges, only ongoing modern ranges left are River (being rebooted), Jenny (very sporadic), Paternoster Gang (seems to only come in batches), Missy (as and when Gomez is available) and the various Time War ranges. Seems they really need the Fugitive Doctor and Call Me Master to do well to revitalise this. I Mean lets see Main companion wise
Rose Tyler Dimension Cannon- Billie Piper is in demand and unlikely to come back anytime soon
The Lives of Captain Jack- John Barrowman is basically blacklisted so the range is permanently retired
The Year of Martha Jones- Freema Agyeman is in high demand and unlikely to come back anytime soon
Donne Noble Kidnapped- Since she has appeared in the 2023 Specials i can imagine that she is off limits to Big Finish
Lady Christina- Viable Option depends on Sales Numbers for Volume 2
The Diary of River Song- Range is continuing with 3 new boxsets in new format
The Lone Centurion- Unlikely unless Arthur Darvill wants to come back and also depends on Sales Numbers for Volume 3
Jenny The Doctor's Daughter- We are getting one boxset but its highly unlikely we will get more if Georgia Tennant is busy
Plus you got actresses like Karen Gillian and Jenna Coleman who are in high demand and wont likely come to big finish in a long time plus Matt Lucas doesn't want to come back as Nardole so that's one less companion from the 12th Doctor Era
Big Finish can still do New ranges or releases with companions like
Jackson Lake- The Next Doctor
Bill Potts The Ghost from Doctor Mysterio
Highly doubt they would do anything with them
but yeah there isn't a whole lot they can really do New Who wise unless they go ahead with more recasts like the Doctor Chronicles range (wasn't it rumoured they are auditioning for the 11th doctor chronicles?)
plus UNIT New Series is likely off limits
You missed out on the possible Madge Arwell Adventures... I'm sort of joking 😅 I'd probably buy a set led by Claire Skinner, she's a great actress.
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Post by muddyviolet on May 29, 2024 15:02:16 GMT
As for a hit to BF income? That's just the nature of the business, isn't it? What they may take a hit on in sales is softened by not needing to front up recording / production costs. As long as their other ranges stay profitable, they will be fine. Making less, but producing less; nature of the beast. I think the issue more so is that as they are recording more in advance for classic doctors for long term in case of the worst - this means they're making more without generating profit for a good few year so they need other ranges to make up it in the short term. Also, more money means they can take more risks with ranges that could be less profitable.
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Post by mark687 on May 29, 2024 15:07:24 GMT
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Post by shallacatop on May 29, 2024 15:13:43 GMT
As for a hit to BF income? That's just the nature of the business, isn't it? What they may take a hit on in sales is softened by not needing to front up recording / production costs. As long as their other ranges stay profitable, they will be fine. Making less, but producing less; nature of the beast. I think the issue more so is that as they are recording more in advance for classic doctors for long term in case of the worst - this means they're making more without generating profit for a good few year so they need other ranges to make up it in the short term. Also, more money means they can take more risks with ranges that could be less profitable. I see where you’re coming from, but those releases they’re banking in advance are typically available for pre-order well in advance. Case in point, the 2025 Classic Doctor releases could already be in the can but those costs are now being recouped thanks to the bundle and listings. Tom is the exception because of just how many years in advance (but he also brings in the sales to warrant it), but they wouldn’t be banking releases if it couldn’t be afforded or justified in any way. Whilst there are some ranges that have a quicker turnaround, they still have to be paid for before they’re listed for pre-order, so I’m not sure there’s much of a short-term recoup. I don’t think they use that many ranges as loss leaders, except maybe if it features a Doctor (e.g. 1DA & 2DA); everything else will live or die on its own merits and sales. I’d say we’ve seen enough ranges come and go to know this.
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Post by theillusiveman on May 29, 2024 15:31:33 GMT
I Mean lets see Main companion wise
Rose Tyler Dimension Cannon- Billie Piper is in demand and unlikely to come back anytime soon
The Lives of Captain Jack- John Barrowman is basically blacklisted so the range is permanently retired
The Year of Martha Jones- Freema Agyeman is in high demand and unlikely to come back anytime soon
Donne Noble Kidnapped- Since she has appeared in the 2023 Specials i can imagine that she is off limits to Big Finish
Lady Christina- Viable Option depends on Sales Numbers for Volume 2
The Diary of River Song- Range is continuing with 3 new boxsets in new format
The Lone Centurion- Unlikely unless Arthur Darvill wants to come back and also depends on Sales Numbers for Volume 3
Jenny The Doctor's Daughter- We are getting one boxset but its highly unlikely we will get more if Georgia Tennant is busy
Plus you got actresses like Karen Gillian and Jenna Coleman who are in high demand and wont likely come to big finish in a long time plus Matt Lucas doesn't want to come back as Nardole so that's one less companion from the 12th Doctor Era
Big Finish can still do New ranges or releases with companions like
Jackson Lake- The Next Doctor
Bill Potts The Ghost from Doctor Mysterio
Highly doubt they would do anything with them
but yeah there isn't a whole lot they can really do New Who wise unless they go ahead with more recasts like the Doctor Chronicles range (wasn't it rumoured they are auditioning for the 11th doctor chronicles?)
plus UNIT New Series is likely off limits
& most of these I've heard aren't great. BF are in a weird position at the moment with none of the classic Doctors getting any younger. & of course if there are tv show spin-offs will that impact on BF? Why pay a premium for the spin-offs BF do if we can get tv spin offs for "free"? But yet again this is bad PR from BF. Announcing this as the final set earlier would surely have gained more interest? Honestly I doubt that we will get any spin offs maybe just one or two but I think that the show isn’t in the right place for on going television spin offs
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2024 17:30:28 GMT
& most of these I've heard aren't great. BF are in a weird position at the moment with none of the classic Doctors getting any younger. & of course if there are tv show spin-offs will that impact on BF? Why pay a premium for the spin-offs BF do if we can get tv spin offs for "free"? But yet again this is bad PR from BF. Announcing this as the final set earlier would surely have gained more interest? Honestly I doubt that we will get any spin offs maybe just one or two but I think that the show isn’t in the right place for on going television spin offs We are getting at least one. After the news went quiet for a while, Bad Wolf have been recruiting crew for a spinoff shoot.
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Post by timleschild on May 29, 2024 17:36:36 GMT
Honestly I doubt that we will get any spin offs maybe just one or two but I think that the show isn’t in the right place for on going television spin offs We are getting at least one. After the news went quiet for a while, Bad Wolf have been recruiting crew for a spinoff shoot. Yes, War Between the Land and the Sea which was namechecked in 73 Yards.
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