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Post by jasonward on May 27, 2017 17:05:53 GMT
Well watched episode 4, again thought it was great, although I'm at a loss to understand why it's being recommended as the episode to get you hooked, I personally was less fascinated by Laura's story than I am about the death guy, there seems some deep mystery there to me, and one I'd love to see explored more. Death guy? Do you mean {Spoiler} Anubis?
have you read the book? if not don't spoil it and click on the spoiler tag. but I am sure you will understand more once Wednesdays and Shadows tale unfolds. but yes I was not that keen on lauras backstory, but I did enjoy the bathroom scene. Nope, never heard of the stories prior to the Christian fundamentalists campaign to have the TV show banned caught my eye. And even then, the only reason I decided to watch is because of Neil Gaiman and the memory of reading the book he co-wrote with Terry Pratchett. Too late on the spoiler warning, had already clicked on it before seeing what you said, but it does no harm, other than some very sketchy recollections about ancient Egyptian beliefs, his name means nothing to me, and there was already a scene with the cat woman and him that confirmed that link.
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Post by muckypup on May 27, 2017 17:18:38 GMT
Death guy? Do you mean {Spoiler} Anubis?
have you read the book? if not don't spoil it and click on the spoiler tag. but I am sure you will understand more once Wednesdays and Shadows tale unfolds. but yes I was not that keen on lauras backstory, but I did enjoy the bathroom scene. Nope, never heard of the stories prior to the Christian fundamentalists campaign to have the TV show banned caught my eye. And even then, the only reason I decided to watch is because of Neil Gaiman and the memory of reading the book he co-wrote with Terry Pratchett. Too late on the spoiler warning, had already clicked on it before seeing what you said, but it does no harm, other than some very sketchy recollections about ancient Egyptian beliefs, his name means nothing to me, and there was already a scene with the cat woman and him that confirmed that link. ok, I will say no more then. glad you are enjoying it and perhaps now you have read the spoiler you are on the right track & can try and work out who is who and what's going on. it was Neil Gaiman's first proper novel after writing comics for years, it's a great book but his writing style takes some getting used too, it jumps around a bit and takes some following. so far the TV show is pretty faithful, I just wish it was a tiny bit faster paced, or maybe I could just binge watch them all.
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Post by theotherjosh on Jun 12, 2017 16:21:36 GMT
Laura was my favorite character by far in the book. There was just this mournful melancholy to her. The line that sticks with me is how she likes the dark because it's easier to pass for real. Not pass for living. Pass for real. That speaks volumes about her undead anomie. She's unmoored in the world. In the series she's this intolerable deadpan snarker played with all the emotional range of a cinder block. Ugh.
She's coming close to ruining the entire series for me.
I wish I had been the driver of that truck so I could have run over Laura sooner and maybe gone back and forth over her a few times.
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Post by Trace on Jun 13, 2017 3:46:12 GMT
I love Laura in the series. Admittedly. I have not read the book, but she's my favorite character. I like that she's snarky, and unapologetic. Well, to each their own. I may feel differently if I read the book. All I heard was that the show writers decided to amp up Laura's storyline, whereas in the book she is a relatively minor character. Is that true?
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Post by theotherjosh on Jun 14, 2017 12:52:34 GMT
I love Laura in the series. Admittedly. I have not read the book, but she's my favorite character. I like that she's snarky, and unapologetic. Well, to each their own. I may feel differently if I read the book. All I heard was that the show writers decided to amp up Laura's storyline, whereas in the book she is a relatively minor character. Is that true? I don't think it's (only) a function of turning my favorite character into someone I passionately dislike, but that it's certainly a factor. I think she's a terrible actor and can't carry the role she's been assigned. I was writing for an online zine a couple years ago and they assigned me to review Sucker Punch where Emily Browning (Laura) played the lead. Near the end {Spoiler} she's lobotomized, and man, I tell you what, I didn't see a whit of difference between her performance afterward Without giving up too much of the story, I'll say that Laura's role is important to certain events in the novel, but she is off-screen for most of it. I haven't watched episode 7, but I {Spoiler} understand that Emily Browning plays a different character in a long Coming to America sequence.
What is this, the Klumps? Will she be playing every role by the next season?
"Malkovich, Malkovich."
Mad Sweeny continues to be great. I've started calling my wife "Live Wife", but she has not yet taken to it.
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Post by muckypup on Jun 14, 2017 13:38:05 GMT
Well that's ep 7 done and dusted, and yet again another episode of treading water.......the plot is now being stretched so thin it's just annoying.
I think what they are doing with Laura is boring, I feel like shouting yes I know she's dead, stop it with the fake flys and lingering shots.
In the books she is an important character but her story has far less narrative time that it is being given in the show.
I have enjoyed it but I think I would have had a better experience had I been avalible to watch on block.
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Post by jasonward on Jun 14, 2017 16:06:58 GMT
Laura is by far my least favourite character, but not because of the actress, but because I'm grossed out by the flys and gross flesh, I agree with muckypup, I know she's dead, move on. Ep 7 wasn't about Laura, but instead about Mad and whilst I quite enjoyed his back story, I'm not sure what it told me, because he was seemingly fully formed as a character already when we first met him, my knowledge of his background has hardly expanded at all. I am intrigued again by Anubus(?) and the story teller, but also by Mad's role in death that I had until now only seen Anubus play. I also want to know more about the Buffalo, from the get go I was certain he wasn't "dead", but I really want to know what his game is, because he seems to be playing the long game, and I'm thinking his influence on the up and coming conflict will be the major influence on the shape of the outcome.
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Post by Trace on Jun 14, 2017 23:12:49 GMT
I haven't seen ep 7 yet, but am anxious to see some backstory on Mad Sweeney. As for Laura, I feel like they are positioning her for a real resurrection--no more flies and gross, rotting flesh, and that she has some future role in the upcoming war...she already has superhuman strength, and is a badass killer! Is she going to fight on the side of the Old Gods or the New? I feel like she wants to protect/help Shadow, stemming from not just her love for him, but her guilt over the affair while he was in prison. I could be WAY off course, but knowing absolutely zero about the source material can lead to wild imaginings.
Also, I love the trio of Laura, Mad and Salim! They make me smile.
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Post by muckypup on Jun 19, 2017 16:50:03 GMT
ok...thats series one done and dusted
what a truly terrible final episode it was.
what has Gillian Anderson been taking, to turn in such a wooden and lacklustre performance. I don't like the way the new gods have been portrayed at all.
usual complaints that have dogged this series, slow lingering tedious shots how boring and slow was Anansi's prologue stuff
I want to say nice things, honestly I do......everything wakes up when Wednesday is on screen, Easter's stuff was good and I liked the interaction with Laura, and its revelations and hopefully the next series we will finally get to house on the rock and kick start things.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Jun 19, 2017 21:22:05 GMT
Well, I love the book, the show, Laura, and the lingering shots. So I suppose I'm the voice of positivity. That said, I was expecting them to have at least reached the House on the Rock in the finale. The pace was fine for the first few episodes, but I'd like it if the show sped up just a little bit. Still the most beautifully shot show on TV.
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Post by theotherjosh on Jun 23, 2017 2:52:21 GMT
I enjoyed almost everything about the finale. I'd been wavering in my enthusiasm, but now I'm looking forward to the second season.
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Post by jasonward on Jun 25, 2017 23:27:00 GMT
Well the finale... yeah... I was really loving up till the moment Easter did her bit, at which point, I switched sides, the old gods appear evil, and wish to bend humanity to their own glory, whilst the new gods appear to be taking to and working with whatever humanity is up to. I'm sure siding with any god and expecting them to be on your side is a stupid and dangerous thing, but at least the new gods don't seem to want to kill me and half of humanity just to get their kicks.
Not sure where this will leave me when season 2 starts, since I'm now feeling very anti the main protagonists.
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Post by theotherjosh on Jun 26, 2017 0:13:47 GMT
I watched the first couple episodes again after completing the first season. I remembered that when I saw the first episode I thought that they were covering an awful lot of material from the book and I hoped that they didn't rush to the conclusion too quickly.
In retrospect, I see that I misjudged things badly.
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Post by theotherjosh on Nov 30, 2017 15:39:23 GMT
Looks like Fuller and Green are out as showrunners. That's probably effectively the end of the series. It felt much more like a Bryan Fuller program than it did a Neil Gaiman story.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Dec 4, 2017 21:51:52 GMT
Looks like Fuller and Green are out as showrunners. That's probably effectively the end of the series. It felt much more like a Bryan Fuller program than it did a Neil Gaiman story. Well, that's not a good sign. Are there indications at this point if Starz are carrying on or abandoning it? If it was going to be this short-lived I really wish they'd sped it up to cover more of the book and less made-up material.
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Post by theotherjosh on Dec 5, 2017 20:44:17 GMT
Looks like Fuller and Green are out as showrunners. That's probably effectively the end of the series. It felt much more like a Bryan Fuller program than it did a Neil Gaiman story. Well, that's not a good sign. Are there indications at this point if Starz are carrying on or abandoning it? If it was going to be this short-lived I really wish they'd sped it up to cover more of the book and less made-up material. The most recent articles I've read say that they had written half the scripts for season two, had not yet begun filming and planned to return at some point in 2018. I also read that Kristin Chenoweth appeared primarily because of her strong personal relationship with Fuller and she might possibly be gone as well, though I'm not sure how much of that is gossip/spin/a negotiating tactic (choose all that apply and maybe more than one). But I'm not sure that the show could survive her loss on top of Fuller's.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Dec 5, 2017 22:17:46 GMT
Well, that's not a good sign. Are there indications at this point if Starz are carrying on or abandoning it? If it was going to be this short-lived I really wish they'd sped it up to cover more of the book and less made-up material. The most recent articles I've read say that they had written half the scripts for season two, had not yet begun filming and planned to return at some point in 2018. I also read that Kristin Chenoweth appeared primarily because of her strong personal relationship with Fuller and she might possibly be gone as well, though I'm not sure how much of that is gossip/spin/a negotiating tactic (choose all that apply and maybe more than one). But I'm not sure that the show could survive her loss on top of Fuller's. I don't think Easter's got a very big role, so I think the show could survive her loss easily.
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Post by J.A. Prentice on Dec 8, 2017 6:21:28 GMT
For what it's worth, Neil Gaiman says the show is continuing. He's still involved and will help pick the new producer like he helped pick Fuller.
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