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Post by frisby78 on Feb 2, 2020 9:46:32 GMT
And personally there's at least 4 I would have purchased if they had been available on CD.
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Post by captainpugwash on Feb 2, 2020 11:08:57 GMT
Problem with the originals was the lack of accessibility. I think they should have released them as free podcasts, backed up by patrons. It is so hard these days to get ones to purchase original scripted drama as there is so much out there free on your podcast catcher, and the quality of some are just as good as bf. Releasing as a original scripted podcast has the potential to bring in a new customer base as well.
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Post by Whovitt on Feb 2, 2020 11:31:14 GMT
Problem with the originals was the lack of accessibility. I think they should have released them as free podcasts, backed up by patrons. It is so hard these days to get ones to purchase original scripted drama as there is so much out there free on your podcast catcher, and the quality of some are just as good as bf. Releasing as a original scripted podcast has the potential to bring in a new customer base as well. A great idea in theory, but they'd have to hire actor who were willing to work for free on the chance it didn't work, otherwise they'd likely make an even bigger loss than their current Originals model.
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Post by captainpugwash on Feb 2, 2020 12:03:20 GMT
Problem with the originals was the lack of accessibility. I think they should have released them as free podcasts, backed up by patrons. It is so hard these days to get ones to purchase original scripted drama as there is so much out there free on your podcast catcher, and the quality of some are just as good as bf. Releasing as a original scripted podcast has the potential to bring in a new customer base as well. A great idea in theory, but they'd have to hire actor who were willing to work for free on the chance it didn't work, otherwise they'd likely make an even bigger loss than their current Originals model. I understand what you are saying, however Equity (the actors union who set wage rates) have already agreed with their members a set rate for scripted podcasts. It’s not that expensive. Also lots of actors and production companies are doing scripted podcasts. Marvel are producing a wolverine, BLACKOUT stars and is executive produced by Academy Award® winner Rami Malek, Chloë Grace Moretz stars in gaslight etc. Most are supported by adverts as well. I really really believe that is the route bf should go down with their originals. Obviously they can’t with their licenced product, but originals should have. It opens up a whole new avenue for bf who have admitted that they rely on Doctor Who fans supporting all their ranges. It wouldn’t hurt as an experiment to try it. Perhaps something along the lines of King Falls AM would work.
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Post by Whovitt on Feb 2, 2020 12:11:05 GMT
A great idea in theory, but they'd have to hire actor who were willing to work for free on the chance it didn't work, otherwise they'd likely make an even bigger loss than their current Originals model. I understand what you are saying, however Equity (the actors union who set wage rates) have already agreed with their members a set rate for scripted podcasts. It’s not that expensive. Also lots of actors and production companies are doing scripted podcasts. Marvel are producing a wolverine, BLACKOUT stars and is executive produced by Academy Award® winner Rami Malek, Chloë Grace Moretz stars in gaslight etc. Most are supported by adverts as well. I really really believe that is the route bf should go down with their originals. Obviously they can’t with their licenced product, but originals should have. It opens up a whole new avenue for bf who have admitted that they rely on Doctor Who fans supporting all their ranges. It wouldn’t hurt as an experiment to try it. Perhaps something along the lines of King Falls AM would work. Fair enough. I didn't know that Equity already had a system designed for just this sort of thing. If the system works for other companies, I guess Big Finish just don't want to do it? Hopefully they will consider it as an option to keep the Originals going, but I have suspicion that this is a release model they aren't going to go for unless they don't have any other option.
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Post by muckypup on Feb 2, 2020 16:12:01 GMT
Perhaps I'm choosing to interpret what Nick said differently, but weren't his exact words concerning sequels to the Originals "no plans at the moment"? There was no mention of poor sales or even an outright "not gonna happen!" (granted there was an audible sigh from Nick when Benji was reading the email out..but even so..). It suggests (to my optimistic old heart at least) that while the door to follow ups may not be fully open for Big Finish right now, it might not have been permanently slammed shut either. At least, I hope it does.. 😳 I think it was at big finish day that nick said originals just sold enough, but were on hold for a few years as too much licenced stuff to do and that people complained they release too much stuff......but after that went on announce ata girl....so who knows what's happening...…. personally I was a bit pissed as they got us to pay £100 or £120 for them, then went on and put them on audible where I could have got em all for £25...…..and returned the ones I didn't like! I wasn't impressed with most of them...…..they were ok but that's all......I just didn't enjoy them enough to buy them instead of a doctor who or torchwood title going forward. I think they made the mistake of doing boxes instead of doing shorter titles and more variety like they did with the h g wells titles...…..but not sure how well that range sold
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Post by mark687 on Feb 2, 2020 16:19:12 GMT
Perhaps I'm choosing to interpret what Nick said differently, but weren't his exact words concerning sequels to the Originals "no plans at the moment"? There was no mention of poor sales or even an outright "not gonna happen!" (granted there was an audible sigh from Nick when Benji was reading the email out..but even so..). It suggests (to my optimistic old heart at least) that while the door to follow ups may not be fully open for Big Finish right now, it might not have been permanently slammed shut either. At least, I hope it does.. 😳 I think it was at big finish day that nick said originals just sold enough, but were on hold for a few years as too much licenced stuff to do and that people complained they release too much stuff......but after that went on announce ata girl....so who knows what's happening...…. personally I was a bit pissed as they got us to pay £100 or £120 for them, them when and put them on audible where I could have got em all for £25...…..and returned the ones I didn't like!
I wasn't impressed with most of them...…..they were ok but that's all......I just didn't enjoy them enough to buy them instead of a doctor who or torchwood title going forward. I think they made the mistake of doing boxes instead of doing shorter titles and more variety like they did with the h g wells titles...…..but not sure how well that range sold Agreed the overall Marketing strategy for BF Originals was odd highlight the company with Original content, then let it go cheaper from other suppliers. Regards mark687
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Post by muckypup on Feb 2, 2020 16:52:43 GMT
A great idea in theory, but they'd have to hire actor who were willing to work for free on the chance it didn't work, otherwise they'd likely make an even bigger loss than their current Originals model. I understand what you are saying, however Equity (the actors union who set wage rates) have already agreed with their members a set rate for scripted podcasts. It’s not that expensive. Also lots of actors and production companies are doing scripted podcasts. Marvel are producing a wolverine, BLACKOUT stars and is executive produced by Academy Award® winner Rami Malek, Chloë Grace Moretz stars in gaslight etc. Most are supported by adverts as well. I really really believe that is the route bf should go down with their originals. Obviously they can’t with their licenced product, but originals should have. It opens up a whole new avenue for bf who have admitted that they rely on Doctor Who fans supporting all their ranges. It wouldn’t hurt as an experiment to try it. Perhaps something along the lines of King Falls AM would work. could I ask, where can we find these podcast, or a place to find out about them...…... ive never heard of them, would be good to find out more
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Post by fitzoliverj on Feb 2, 2020 17:34:18 GMT
Problem with the originals was the lack of accessibility. I think they should have released them as free podcasts, backed up by patrons. A great idea in theory, but they'd have to hire actor who were willing to work for free
Well, either actors working for free or otherwise somebody stumping up the money. To be honest, unless they were going to get something out of it, I'm not sure how many listeners would care to take on the role of patron of the arts. Maybe BF should consider going down the old Kickstarter route for projects they're really enthusiastic about but which don't necessarily have a proven market. Give the Kickstarter purchases a couple of years' advance listening and the re-announce the projects as a big thing later on?
(As it is, I do wonder how the BBC can do their Lovecraft material as podcasts and not broadcast them. Is this a misuse of the licence fee, etc, etc?)
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Post by lidar2 on Feb 3, 2020 10:35:28 GMT
I never - and I mean never - listen to the podcast and haven't done for years since before Benji joined it. I never hear good things, that it's often little more than Nick talking about his own stuff, and any actual news comes out anyway. How fun it was then to listen to it this week....and hear it be "I'm Nick Briggs and now lets talk for 10 minutes about my own project, The Human Frontier, which isn't out for 3 months but let's talk about it now anyway, so you can pre-order it". Then after reviews.....another 10 minutes of it. Then some Random Selection for the weekly title...and some more Human Frontier talk. Then some emails and more Human Frontier talk. I thought people were exaggerating! To use a Scots / Ulster Scots term, I think we will all be well scunnered with The Human Front Ear by the time it comes out
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2020 10:56:55 GMT
I never - and I mean never - listen to the podcast and haven't done for years since before Benji joined it. I never hear good things, that it's often little more than Nick talking about his own stuff, and any actual news comes out anyway. How fun it was then to listen to it this week....and hear it be "I'm Nick Briggs and now lets talk for 10 minutes about my own project, The Human Frontier, which isn't out for 3 months but let's talk about it now anyway, so you can pre-order it". Then after reviews.....another 10 minutes of it. Then some Random Selection for the weekly title...and some more Human Frontier talk. Then some emails and more Human Frontier talk. I thought people were exaggerating! To use a Scots / Ulster Scots term, I think we will all be well scunnered with The Human Front Ear by the time it comes out Aye, I'm feart he'll keep havering on about it til yon Frontier gies us aw the dry boak.
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Post by frisby78 on Feb 3, 2020 11:12:37 GMT
I pity the fool who dares to give Human Frontier a less than glowing review...
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Post by mark687 on Feb 8, 2020 21:40:36 GMT
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 9, 2020 14:25:43 GMT
From the E-Mails They will try to gentle with MR changes but "It will change!" I wish they would announce their plans and get it over with.
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Post by frisby78 on Feb 9, 2020 17:15:40 GMT
From the E-Mails They will try to gentle with MR changes but "It will change!" I wish they would announce their plans and get it over with. It does suggest a lack of confidence in the proposed changes. If they believe it needs to be done, just do it and tell us. Maybe then they can judge the feedback either way.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 9, 2020 17:19:17 GMT
I wish they would announce their plans and get it over with. It does suggest a lack of confidence in the proposed changes. If they believe it needs to be done, just do it and tell us. Maybe then they can judge the feedback either way. To me it suggests a pretty radical change that they know long time subscribers are going to have a problem with.
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Post by frisby78 on Feb 9, 2020 17:42:40 GMT
It does suggest a lack of confidence in the proposed changes. If they believe it needs to be done, just do it and tell us. Maybe then they can judge the feedback either way. To me it suggests a pretty radical change that they know long time subscribers are going to have a problem with. I still suspect separate subscriptions fore each doctor with maybe 6 releases each overlapping throughout the year.
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Post by cwm on Feb 9, 2020 18:22:18 GMT
The current system will still be in place until at least next April - there's no rush.
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Post by mark687 on Feb 9, 2020 19:56:07 GMT
The current system will still be in place until at least next April - there's no rush. That's no good for those of us in our last Possible Sub Regards mark687
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Feb 9, 2020 20:25:38 GMT
The current system will still be in place until at least next April - there's no rush. That's no good for those of us in our last Possible Sub Regards mark687 Exactly. My current sub expires in November. And with something as longstanding as the Main Range, it isn't something I would think they would want to spring on people with little notice. Hopefully they have learned that lesson by now.
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