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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 5, 2018 16:16:33 GMT
It was revealed in December that Jamie Shannon would be directing it and it's now going to be released in 2018/19. Leeson is still returning as the voice of K9, and they updated the official K9 Facebook page with the new design at the beginning of the year. So that's that, not much, but still in development. Huh. Well, there you go For nearly two and a half years development though, there's less known about this than the Big Finish Comic Adaptations I hope it totally surprises us and becomes an Oscar-nominated movie. That would be quite the plot twist.
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 5, 2018 21:24:07 GMT
She is talking about the Eighth Doctor, yes. I’ve suggested it before, but I’d love a set where the Time War does touch upon older Doctors somewhat. The First Doctor Companion Chronicles set from last year did it quite effectively, I felt. And on TV, Terror of the Zygons could now be perceived as the Zygons invading following the destruction of their home planet. Which we’ve since learnt was caused by the Time War. The Seventh Doctor certainly seems like he’s aware of an impending Time War. Certainly based on his actions in Remembrance of the Daleks, and mentions in Damaged Goods and Cold Fusion. Which raises an interesting question - what stories could be construed now as being fallout from the Time War? Terror of the Zygons. Horns of the Nimon maybe? Image of the Fendahl? Maybe it wasn’t the Dcotor’s ancestors that Time Looped Planet 5, but the War Council to stop the Daleks weaponising the Fendahl. Is Azal the last of the Daemons because of the War? what caused the Kroton ship to crash? Daleks? what wiped out the Xeraphon? The Time Lords? Good suggestions! The Daleks attempt to assassinate the High Council of Gallifrey in Resurrection of the Daleks is a retaliation to the Doctors instructions from the Time Lords in Genesis of the Daleks, which in turn seems like a large lead in to the Time War. There’s a few Big Finish stories that could retroactively be parts of the Time War: The Leela Companion Chronicles trilogy is the most obvious, as it’s inended to be the Time War in all but name. However, as we learn in The War Doctor series, Leela is hit with a Dalek temporal weapon and turns her into an amalgamation of every single possible Leela. That suits the Leela that dies and the Leela that’s resurrected pretty perfectly, I think. The events in The Apocalypse Element seem to be a contribution towards he start of the Time War. And the BBC short story featuring the War Doctor, The Stranger, suggests as much.
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Post by sherlock on Mar 6, 2018 15:29:13 GMT
I haven't read all the posts so I don't know if it has been commmented: Do you think they will bring Ollistra and the Eighth Doctor in future sets? Because it would be GREAT. Romana comments the Doctor is refusing to help but as we have seen, Ollistra kinda forced him into a soldier training camp so... Ollistra was referenced at one point so hopefully she could appear as part of the War Council, we did only meet one of their number in this set. The Doctor's brief conscription could take place after this set, or alternatively Romana's just in the dark about it. Would be perfectly in-keeping with Ollistra for her not to have word spread of what happened regarding that incident.
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Post by barnabaslives on Mar 6, 2018 16:37:22 GMT
I hope Ace's part in the Time War isn't over already. I'm sure she'd enjoy getting rid of a bunch of Daleks the old fashioned way almost as much as I'd enjoy hearing it.
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Post by nottenst on Mar 7, 2018 17:25:42 GMT
Finished the set yesterday, haven't listened to the interviews. I am glad that "The Devil You Know" was precisely the missing piece of The War Master between "Beneath the Viscoid" and "The Good Master". What I somehow missed in "The Devil You Know" was just what did Finnian Valentine do? It didn't seem like he tapped into the thing at Arking as the last resort weapon. Though he did know of it. Or did what he do somehow put Arking into the state it was? Just a bit confused with that story. If anyone can clear it up, that would be appreciated.
I am glad they did bring about the anticipated resurrection of Rassilon. Looking forward to where they are going from here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2018 17:35:32 GMT
Finished the set yesterday, haven't listened to the interviews. I am glad that "The Devil You Know" was precisely the missing piece of The War Master between "Beneath the Viscoid" and "The Good Master". What I somehow missed in "The Devil You Know" was just what did Finnian Valentine do? It didn't seem like he tapped into the thing at Arking as the last resort weapon. Though he did know of it. Or did what he do somehow put Arking into the state it was? Just a bit confused with that story. If anyone can clear it up, that would be appreciated. I am glad they did bring about the anticipated resurrection of Rassilon. Looking forward to where they are going from here. He deployed a weapon as a last resort elsewhere in the war, and had knowledge of Arcking, but the weapon he used and Arcking weren't connected. He simply had the intelligence about it when everyone else had died...
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Post by nottenst on Mar 7, 2018 18:25:14 GMT
Finished the set yesterday, haven't listened to the interviews. I am glad that "The Devil You Know" was precisely the missing piece of The War Master between "Beneath the Viscoid" and "The Good Master". What I somehow missed in "The Devil You Know" was just what did Finnian Valentine do? It didn't seem like he tapped into the thing at Arking as the last resort weapon. Though he did know of it. Or did what he do somehow put Arking into the state it was? Just a bit confused with that story. If anyone can clear it up, that would be appreciated. I am glad they did bring about the anticipated resurrection of Rassilon. Looking forward to where they are going from here. He deployed a weapon as a last resort elsewhere in the war, and had knowledge of Arcking, but the weapon he used and Arcking weren't connected. He simply had the intelligence about it when everyone else had died... Thanks for that clarification regarding the intelligence. I had thought that Leela and The Master were after the weapon, which considering what it did to him, would seem to have been useful in the Time War.
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Post by thegreendeath on Mar 8, 2018 15:18:09 GMT
Since sadly John Hurt isn't among us, we can't have any War Doctor and Gallifrey crossovers, neither a War Master and War Doctor, it would have been wonderful I also hope Ace's story will continue and wouln't it be amazing a meeting between her and the Eighth Doctor? (As I said, no more War Doctor means all the Time War stories with the Doctor in it will have to be with Eight; I sooo hope a meeting with him and Romana) I think we might have a “War Doctor Chronicles” style release at some point that could check a few the boxes, but I think they’ll want to wait a bit before doing that.
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Post by xlozdob on Mar 8, 2018 15:31:18 GMT
Since sadly John Hurt isn't among us, we can't have any War Doctor and Gallifrey crossovers, neither a War Master and War Doctor, it would have been wonderful I also hope Ace's story will continue and wouln't it be amazing a meeting between her and the Eighth Doctor? (As I said, no more War Doctor means all the Time War stories with the Doctor in it will have to be with Eight; I sooo hope a meeting with him and Romana) I think we might have a “War Doctor Chronicles” style release at some point that could check a few the boxes, but I think they’ll want to wait a bit before doing that. Tbh, I'd prefer a recast younger version of the War Doctor, exploring a more ruthless side. With these four volumes we got an already weary War Doctor, nearing the end of his life, but exploring the beginning and middle along with the Gallifrey series would be great in a few years time once we're done with 8 in the War. And I think Sam Riley from SSGB would be perfect for the part.
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Post by thegreendeath on Mar 8, 2018 16:00:59 GMT
I think we might have a “War Doctor Chronicles” style release at some point that could check a few the boxes, but I think they’ll want to wait a bit before doing that. Tbh, I'd prefer a recast younger version of the War Doctor, exploring a more ruthless side. With these four volumes we got an already weary War Doctor, nearing the end of his life, but exploring the beginning and middle along with the Gallifrey series would be great in a few years time once we're done with 8 in the War. And I think Sam Riley from SSGB would be perfect for the part. I quite like that idea and hope they run with it.
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Post by nottenst on Mar 9, 2018 1:59:08 GMT
Listened to the interviews. As many probably suspected, "The Devil You Know" was recorded around the same time as The War Master. I mentioned it in that thread, but I think the best experience for The War Master would be to put this Gallifrey episode right in there after :Beneath the Viscoid." So, listen to the first 2 episodes here, then The War Master with "The Devil You Know" slotted in, then "Desperate Measures".
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Post by Digi on Mar 9, 2018 2:31:29 GMT
I think we might have a “War Doctor Chronicles” style release at some point that could check a few the boxes, but I think they’ll want to wait a bit before doing that. Tbh, I'd prefer a recast younger version of the War Doctor, exploring a more ruthless side. With these four volumes we got an already weary War Doctor, nearing the end of his life, but exploring the beginning and middle along with the Gallifrey series would be great in a few years time once we're done with 8 in the War. This would absolutely be my preference as well. I understand they want to be sensitive to the memory of John Hurt, and that creatively it'd be difficult to tell a Doctor Who story about a Doctor who isn't 'really' the Doctor, but it would still be my preference. Not sure how interested I'd be in a War Doctor Chronicles, honestly. I quite liked having Nick fill in for Chris Eccleston, but the moment they announced an impersonator for the Tenth and Eleventh chronicles, I regretted having preordered.
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Post by Audio Watchdog on Mar 9, 2018 2:37:12 GMT
Not sure how interested I'd be in a War Doctor Chronicles, honestly. I quite liked having Nick fill in for Chris Eccleston, but the moment they announced an impersonator for the Tenth and Eleventh chronicles, I regretted having preordered. You are able to contact sales and cancel your order.
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Post by shallacatop on Mar 9, 2018 9:24:23 GMT
I’d be interested in a War Doctor Chronicles and really, I think you could secure a good enough cast for that one in a way you couldn’t for the Ninth, Tenth and Eleventh Doctor sets. Jacqueline Pearce, Louise Jameson, Clare Higgins and Ken Bones. Or even substitute the latter two for Lalla Ward and Carole Ann if you want people who’ve already worked for Big Finish a great deal.
There would be a guest cast member, but no need for someone to be the Narrator and the Doctor. I’m thinking more in the style of the Companion Chronicles.
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Post by xlozdob on Mar 9, 2018 20:48:46 GMT
I’d be interested in a War Doctor Chronicles and really, I think you could secure a good enough cast for that one in a way you couldn’t for the Ninth, Tenth and Eleventh Doctor sets. Jacqueline Pearce, Louise Jameson, Clare Higgins and Ken Bones. Or even substitute the latter two for Lalla Ward and Carole Ann if you want people who’ve already worked for Big Finish a great deal. There would be a guest cast member, but no need for someone to be the Narrator and the Doctor. I’m thinking more in the style of the Companion Chronicles. Maybe a range of War Chronicles? Not Doctor Chronicles, but also outside the Companion Chronicles range. Still, I prefer full-cast.
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Post by omega on Mar 10, 2018 9:05:59 GMT
Since sadly John Hurt isn't among us, we can't have any War Doctor and Gallifrey crossovers, neither a War Master and War Doctor, it would have been wonderful I also hope Ace's story will continue and wouln't it be amazing a meeting between her and the Eighth Doctor? (As I said, no more War Doctor means all the Time War stories with the Doctor in it will have to be with Eight; I sooo hope a meeting with him and Romana) I think we might have a “War Doctor Chronicles” style release at some point that could check a few the boxes, but I think they’ll want to wait a bit before doing that. I'd love more Ollistra, and Jacqueline Pearce has the most silky smooth voice.
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Post by dalekbuster523finish on Mar 10, 2018 15:10:56 GMT
Just listened to Soldier Obscura. No idea if Brax appears in any of the other sets as I haven't listened to Gallifrey before, but I wondered if he could be a secret incarnation of The Master. His actions strike me as very similar to how you would expect The Master to act, especially the way he cruelly ignores Ace's protests and makes contact with her mind to show her all the people he's killed, not to mention his evil wiping of her mind (not done to save her like the Doctor with Donna, but like a sort of harsh punishment for challenging him and calling him a coward).
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Post by number13 on Mar 10, 2018 15:36:08 GMT
Just listened to Soldier Obscura. No idea if Brax appears in any of the other sets as I haven't listened to Gallifrey before, but I wondered if he could be a secret incarnation of The Master. His actions strike me as very similar to how you would expect The Master to act, especially the way he cruelly ignores Ace's protests and makes contact with her mind to show her all the people he's killed, not to mention his evil wiping of her mind (not done to save her like the Doctor with Donna, but like a sort of harsh punishment for challenging him and calling him a coward). No, he isn't the Master and yes he does appear in many of the other sets. He's on the 'good' side, but with that quite ruthless edge that virtually all Time Lords have when seen from a human perspective. I interpreted his later actions here rather differently - Brax promised the Doctor that he would keep Ace safe, and he does. Partially wiping her memory and dropping her on Earth is his way of keeping Ace out of the Time War. Earth is one of the 'protected' worlds listed in part one, so it will remain safe from the worst effects of the war and if Ace doesn't remember the war she won't attempt to get involved again even if the the Doctor drops by. And he has one less noble motive too; Brax is opting out of what he believes (correctly) is an unwinnable war - he doesn't want Gallifrey to track him down and Ace would be the first person they'd look for on that trail. This way, even if they find her, they won't find him...
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Post by mbt66 on Mar 10, 2018 16:27:02 GMT
As with all the Gallifrey boxsets this leaves me feeling slightly annoyed. But never for the same reasons and never enough for me not to enjoy them, otherwise I wouldn’t still be buying them!
So a few thoughts...
Since when was Leela able to pilot a Tardis? Wouldn’t her using a time ring make more sense? In fact the whole last quarter of the first story didn’t sit right with me.
I loved the Brax and Ace story especially the Dalek quoting Three Blind Mice....that was genius. And such a great ending.
Now to my biggest annoyance with this set - The Master story. Nothing wrong with the story as such, but I kept waiting for Romana’s plan. Surely she wouldn’t have sent Leela off without a plan. It made no sense to send Leela with the Master. We all knew what would happen.
And speaking of “we all knew what would happen” we come to the last story. But in this case it added to the excitement. Rassilon is back and the Time War has truly begun!
Plus one final thought...
Romana said the Doctor refused to help. I have been patiently waiting for Romana to meet the Eighth Doctor ever since his return from the Divergent Universe, so I hope we get to hear that encounter at some point.
SOON!!
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Post by omega on Mar 13, 2018 5:54:11 GMT
Just listened to Soldier Obscura. No idea if Brax appears in any of the other sets as I haven't listened to Gallifrey before, but I wondered if he could be a secret incarnation of The Master. His actions strike me as very similar to how you would expect The Master to act, especially the way he cruelly ignores Ace's protests and makes contact with her mind to show her all the people he's killed, not to mention his evil wiping of her mind (not done to save her like the Doctor with Donna, but like a sort of harsh punishment for challenging him and calling him a coward). Brax is a main character in the Gallifrey range at least up to series 4, and in the Enemy Lines release. His timeline is complicated, dipping in and out of the Benny and Gallifrey ranges.
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