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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 11:26:53 GMT
I think the burping and the puking put me off a bit. It did have its amusing moments, a Mr D.Tennant had a few funny lines in particular, I wonder what became of him? It was certainly number 6 in ranking order for the unbounds for me  I hear he got Colditz feet after feeling Sympathy for the Devil. He took to drinking you see, for Medicinal Purposes. Lead to The Wasting of the Dalek Empire III, I was told. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 12:37:04 GMT
Exile is the audio equivalent of a war crime, only even less fun.
To my mind, the worst piece of Who related audio that Big Finish has ever released. There are other Big Finish releases that I really don't get on with, but they all still have something about them - a performance or an idea or an ambition or something else - that makes them worth listening to at least once. Exile, on the other hand, is so thoroughly rotten that it feels like something that never should have been granted the go ahead in the first place, much less released. Just utterly, cringingly, unremittingly awful.
Paying full price for this was like paying someone to throw up in your brand new shoes. And then wearing them. Without socks.
Yeah, I'm... not a fan.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 13:38:13 GMT
I've just got to listen to this now.
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Post by acousticwolf on Jul 5, 2017 14:47:51 GMT
I've just got to listen to this now. Just .... Don't! Cheers Tony |
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Post by mrperson on Jul 5, 2017 18:43:04 GMT
I have A Storm of Angels, Auld Mortality, Full Fathom Five, He Jests at Scars, Masters of War, and Sympathy For the Devil.
Have to relisten to the first two since it was quite a while. Loved Full Fathom Five. Quite enjoyed Masters of War and Sympathy for the Devil. Also enjoyed He Jests at Scars unlike some people who have posted on this forum (I was just in a different thread that brought it up......can't remember which thread it was)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2017 20:32:18 GMT
I've just got to listen to this now. Just .... Don't! Cheers Tony Have downloaded it and will be trying it out tomorrow. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 13:00:55 GMT
Personally, I think Exile might be the only real dud of this range and a surprising one from Nick Briggs. It was hard to believe that the man who brought us The Mutant Phase and Patient Zero gave us this too.
Full Fathom Five and Deadline are uncomfortable listens in the best way possible, He Jests at Scars is an excellent appendix to the Valeyard's story, A Storm of Angels might be one of Marc Platt's finest works on audio (with Auld Mortality trailing close behind whispering of dark fantasies) and I really wish the David Warner/Nick Courtney tale had been picked up for a full series in its own right, I loved both entries.
This though... The fact that this exists feels odd, like the product of a Fortean Flicker.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 15:16:31 GMT
That.
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Post by mark687 on Jul 6, 2017 15:31:53 GMT
Regards
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Post by kimalysong on Jul 6, 2017 15:45:03 GMT
Pray elaborate! Just wondering if you are being facetious or really have a different opinion from the majority and if so I want to know why. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 16:11:57 GMT
You are Nicholas Briggs and I claim my five pounds!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 18:18:53 GMT
Pray elaborate! Just wondering if you are being facetious or really have a different opinion from the majority and if so I want to know why. I really genuinely liked it. Maybe it's because I'm coarse enough to not find the burping and puking offputting. The thing is of course, it was supposed to be disgusting. Even the Doctor was disgusted by what her life had become, and realised that in trying to save herself from the Time Lords, she had lost what made her the Doctor. I thought the two Time Lords were hilarious with their attempts to catch her, especially the wearing a rubbish rubber mask and sending a signal on late night channel 5 to flush the Doctor out. In a way it works and it's the Doctor's decision to resume being herself afyer losing her job at Sainsbury's that gets her caught. And the ending was genius. What happened when she dematerialises? Have they let her go as the letter says, or was it a trick as the discussion between the two Time Lords implies? It's left deliberately ambiguous. I loved it. |
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Post by CookieMaster on Jul 6, 2017 20:07:10 GMT
Fair play to you The two Time Lords were certainly the redeeming part for me. I think its because the previous five instalments were so serious and felt like proper sci-fi and/or drama, and this was just a bit...Jar Jar...in an otherwise sound saga of stories.. But taken on its own, I guess you can't deny it tried something different. Maybe because at the time, the sheer idea of a female Doctor was still so "out there", that the only appropriate story was one like this. I really don't know. I'm totally in the mood to relisten to the Unbounds now.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 20:13:29 GMT
Like I said at the start of the thread, it's never been a story I considered anywhere near the worst of BF. There are so many technobabble sci-fi slogs I'd put below it.
Can't go as far as Brians but parts made me laugh and I like the ludicrous nature of the whole thing. And as a Fast Show fan, it was SO cool having Arabella as The Doctor. I love the iconoclasm of making THIS a sequel to The War Games.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2017 20:59:33 GMT
Like I said at the start of the thread, it's never been a story I considered anywhere near the worst of BF. There are so many technobabble sci-fi slogs I'd put below it. Can't go as far as Brians but parts made me laugh and I like the ludicrous nature of the whole thing. And as a Fast Show fan, it was SO cool having Arabella as The Doctor. I love the iconoclasm of making THIS a sequel to The War Games. Arabella was really good. Like Benny crossed with Iris to the nth degree. But then the despair in her voice as she realised how low she'd sunk was great. |
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Post by fingersmash on Jul 6, 2017 23:27:50 GMT
For what it is? It's ok. Not good. Certainly not terrible. Just ok. It's something to save for a light listen on a rainy day.
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Post by acousticwolf on Jul 7, 2017 9:36:31 GMT
Pray elaborate! Just wondering if you are being facetious or really have a different opinion from the majority and if so I want to know why. I really genuinely liked it. Maybe it's because I'm coarse enough to not find the burping and puking offputting. The thing is of course, it was supposed to be disgusting. Even the Doctor was disgusted by what her life had become, and realised that in trying to save herself from the Time Lords, she had lost what made her the Doctor. I thought the two Time Lords were hilarious with their attempts to catch her, especially the wearing a rubbish rubber mask and sending a signal on late night channel 5 to flush the Doctor out. In a way it works and it's the Doctor's decision to resume being herself afyer losing her job at Sainsbury's that gets her caught. And the ending was genius. What happened when she dematerialises? Have they let her go as the letter says, or was it a trick as the discussion between the two Time Lords implies? It's left deliberately ambiguous. I loved it. You've probably made Nick Briggs' day Cheers Tony |
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Post by anothermanicmondas on Jul 8, 2017 22:21:45 GMT
I mildly enjoyed it as a parody - I preferred it to Fatal Death as more love, less mockery
(though in reflection - the one thing Fatal Death got right was Joana Lumley - I can't think of any actress more suited to playing the Doctor)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2017 23:20:34 GMT
Doctor Who and outright comedy have always been very strange bedfellows. The Pirates is a jolly old musical, but the framing story is about a girl who wants to commit suicide. Sky Pirates! for all its flummery is about an irreversible and horrific genocide. The Myth Makers ends with an outright (and rather jarring) massacre. I think the closest that it's gotten where it worked might be The One Doctor. Maybe The Power of Three. It's one of those genres where the show can do it, but it can't just be a comedy.
Couple that with comedy not doing so well in science fiction in general and any successful laugh-out-loud story manages to beat incredible odds.
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Post by tordred on Jul 8, 2017 23:47:02 GMT
Doctor Who and outright comedy have always been very strange bedfellows. The Pirates is a jolly old musical, but the framing story is about a girl who wants to commit suicide. Sky Pirates! for all its flummery is about an irreversible and horrific genocide. The Myth Makers ends with an outright (and rather jarring) massacre. I think the closest that it's gotten where it worked might be The One Doctor. Maybe The Power of Three. It's one of those genres where the show can do it, but it can't just be a comedy. Couple that with comedy not doing so well in science fiction in general and any successful laugh-out-loud story manages to beat incredible odds. I've seen Rob Shearman claim each of his works are comedies, so perhaps we can add Scherzo and Jubilee to the list. |
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